So I'm finally going to admit it. I am seriously depressed right now. I feel like crying all the time. I can't find motivation to do anything around the house. Heck if I wasn't responsible for taking care of my daughter I probably wouldn't even muster up the strength to get out of bed.
It's because of my relationship with my husband. I fear he is going to leave. (This is something he admitted to me during my first trimester that he had been considering, but swears that he isn't going to and doesn't want to leave now. We have been 'back to normal' for months now.)
But we have sunk into this routine. He works 60 hour weeks (12 hr days). He comes home, gets on the computer with headphones in, and isn't interested in any type of conversation or anything that would tear him from the screen. (With the exception of our daughter, he always makes time for her.)
If he isn't on the computer he just lays down on the couch and goes to sleep until I finish dinner. Then again until I convince him to go to bed because he has a bad back and the couch will make him sore.
We never go on dates, or anywhere really. He doesn't hug me anymore or hold my hand. We don't snuggle on the couch, and he barely kisses me. Even when he does kiss me it feels so forced and rushed. Like he just wants to get it over with.
We haven't been intimate in months... He says he's just tired but that's what he said for a long time before we had our falling out about him wanting to leave me.
I have begged him to go to marriage counseling with me ever since that happened but he will not even consider it.
I try to keep the house perfect and keep myself presentable, but each day I find it harder to keep up with it all. I look at myself in the mirror and absolutely loathe myself. I feel like a hippo.
It feels like there is this huge weight on me and I don't know how to relieve it. I've tried to talk to him but he won't talk long enough for me to explain how I'm feeling. And if I try to just explain it he zones out and doesn't hear me after awhile. So I finally just wrote him a letter bearing my heart to him. Telling him that whatever it is that's putting this distance between us is something I want to work on so we can be happy.
He has opened the letter (its sitting on his desk). But he hasn't talked to me about it. Hasn't even acknowledged it. And when he came home from work it was the usual routine.
What would you do in this situation? How would you try to get his attention so we can work through whatever this is? I can't stand feeling this sad and insecure all the time. I need help...
Re: Fighting depression... Need advice
As for the letter, that totally sucks that he hasn't acknowledged it. Is he typically an emotional guy? I know my DH would not be responsive to the idea of marriage counseling and he may feel overwhelmed by a letter that is overly expressive. Not saying giving it to him was wrong (I think it takes a lot of courage to express feelings in written form!), just try not to read too much into his lack of response.
How was he during your first pregnancy?
The weird thing is, with my daughter he was great! (She wasn't planned, this one was.) He's never been super emotional but he still went out of his way to make me feel beautiful and loved. He at no point said he wanted to leave or even came close to that. This time I feel like I'm nothing but an extra burden on him.
I have tried to set up date nights before, and even if I bought tickets to a movie he mentioned he wanted to see or made reservations at a favorite restaurant, he tells me he'd rather stay in and we end up not going because I don't want to force him to go out if he doesn't want to. I just feel trapped right now, you know? Nothing seems to work...
I don't know if my advice will be any good, but I second what a pp said about seeking counseling on your own. It could benefit you whether he participates or not. I do know sometimes they'll ask for the spouse to come at some point and I don't know if he will, since he's said no before, but maybe you could invite him then.
When he mentioned leaving early on, did he say why? Or discuss what he was feeling at all? I was curious if it was just relationship things or if it was a mix of just overall life stressors. My husband is going through something that I had myself convinced was all about me and I walked around trying to do every little thing I could to "fix" it. When we finally talked (he walked in while I was having a breakdown one day) I realized it really had little to do with me and it was feeling burnout from his 2 careers, stress of the baby, working on our home, financial responsibility, and school (he takes online classes), etc. He admitted he needed to talk to someone on his own. Once I realized the part I played in it, it doesn't make it better, but I do feel better about myself because I know I'm doing what I can and I can't make him feel or be a certain way. I think you need to take care of you, because working on yourself and helping yourself is the only definite thing you can do!
My DH is semi into video games so I've been trying to make an effort to show interest in what he's playing and that seems to make him open up.
Like PP, I encourage you to try to stay positive as much as you can and continue to engage with him as much as you are comfortable without getting annoyed. When baby comes hopefully he will snap out of his funk or at least be open to more discussion.
Big hugs!!
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F. This. Shit. This is only true of men who never emotionally or hormonally developed past 13 and still secretly wish they could just marry their mothers. Healthy, mature men do discuss their feelings. They may do it differently, not because they're men, but because they're human and we're all different. My husband wants my intelligence, my conversation, my emotional support, my sadness, and my anger. Because this comes first in our relationship, he gets my unconditional love, admiration, and true intimacy instead of a bullshit manufactured facade. And way better sex than the above could ever allow for. Sometimes even homemade pie when I'm feeling especially generous or hungry for it myself.
Yeah, no. Just no.
I can't get behind this one teeny tiny bit.
Men, real men, can and do discuss their feelings. And it's true enough good husbands DO want happy wives, so they try to make them happy. They do NOT expect their wives to fake it for their benefit.
Don't even get me started on the concept of a man's sexual gratification being a woman's responsibility.
OP, I'm really sorry to hear how rough things are for you right now.
I don't know how to help
I do think that as PP's have suggested that you might find comfort in going to counseling on your own. The counseler may have some very helpful insight on what issues are things you can work on and what are things that you can't possibly change or be responsable for. Maybe your husband will come around and eventually join you at the therapist, but at least in the meantime, going by yourself, you wouldn't feel so helpless?
I do want to share that I've kind of been in your situation, not pregnant and not with children, but with a disconnected husband. It's hard and I felt awful about myself and I tried everything I could to please him, but he was never happy. Eventually I realized it wasn't me and it didn't matter how hard I tired that he'd never be happy with me because he wasn't happy with himself.
Please don't blame yourself in this.
Please consider counseling for you, for your comfort. It could really help you feel better. No one deserves to be so unhappy.
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What the?! No! This isn't about him at all. @clairsmommabear this is about YOU and your feelings, not the "food, sex and happy wife" the GUY needs. Ha! YOU need food, sex and happiness and if it's been lacking I would totally recommend seeing a counselor to talk to for yourself and how you feel. You are priority here- if you've expressed how you're feeling to him and nothing has changed. I'm so sorry you are going through this with your husband.... No book or useless "make the man feel special" advice can fix what you've already been through in this relationship. Please know your worth and value as a woman and a momma bear! You are amazing! I just read the above comment to my husband and he is offended. Please don't believe that's what "all guys want" because that's demeaning to lots of men and it's also offensive to great moms and women who can't help the situation they are in.
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Okay thank you so much I'm crying (good crying) you are so sweet.
I appreciate all of the advice and will work on reminding myself that this can't be all my fault. I've always had a problem with placing the blame for everything on me.
You gals are amazing! Thanks again!
Regarding the "what men want is food, sex, and a happy wife" thing. Yeah . . . That's half-true. I can tell you that my husband enjoys a good meal and sex and wants me to be happy. But that doesn't mean he can getaway with mistreating or ignoring me, or that his happiness is somehow dependent on my ability to cook, clean, please him in bed and not cry. Your needs also need to met; marriage is a partnership. If you buy into the "if I could just be a better wife, he'd be happy" notion, you're just going to get more depressed. Cook and clean because it makes you happy or because it needs to get done, initiate sex if you want it. Praise your husband's good qualities because you love him and want to show him love that way. But don't do those things to try and "win" his affection. He needs to step up and be a good husband to you, not just a one-sided you trying to be a good wife and he's a brick wall . . .
I didn't say, nor imply, that she was doing anything wrong. If fact, I feel the opposite and think she's doing everything that she can. My point was only to say that maybe it's not her, and maybe he's going through something too. As far as the hormones, I only meant that maybe she's feeling extra sensitive and needs some extra reassurance right now.
From my own experience, my DH has a very "head of the household, must be strong for everyone" mentality. He goes through funks when he's stressed out about providing for our growing family, or he's having a rough day at work. He gets very silent and doesn't want to talk about it. Not because he is withdrawing from me, but just because he doesn't want me to feel stressed out about it too. I was simply trying to empathize (albeit in a different way from everyone else, apparently) and let her know that maybe it's not her.
****Quote Box Fail**** But by saying that her "insane cocktail of extra hormones" does imply that it's her. I understand you're giving advice from your own experience, as we all are, and my personal experience is that my husband nor I are "head of household," we both work full time we both take care of the house and both clean and cook and we both get really stressed and snippy from it all. I just don't understand that being a reason she should be ignored and not given love and intimacy. Regardless of our own experiences, I feel that communication is so key and crucial in a marriage and I don't want her to feel like she's doing something wrong by wanting to be closer to him and him not responding. I do understand that you are trying to empathize, I just don't agree with the "hormones" statement. He can't be withdrawn every single work day of every month during this pregnancy, that's a poor excuse.