November 2015 Moms

Advice? (long)

I'm really sorry if there is already a thread about this. I'm on mobile and it's hard for me to find specific things. Anyway, the last time I went to the midwife, I talked to her about feeling a little down and having panic attacks. She referred me to a counselor, and though I've only been once since, the feelings I've been having are making it harder and harder just to function every day. I don't want to eat, I don't want to leave the house, some days I don't even want to get out of bed. My midwife said if things got to this point, she'd want to put me on medication. I've been on certain medications for mood disorders before, and don't like the way some of them make me feel. I'm also concerned that the drugs would harm my otherwise healthy baby, and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself. I feel like I'm a big girl; I should be able to deal with my feelings and not put my baby at risk. I don't know what to do :/

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  • semulcahy said:

    I'm really sorry if there is already a thread about this. I'm on mobile and it's hard for me to find specific things. Anyway, the last time I went to the midwife, I talked to her about feeling a little down and having panic attacks. She referred me to a counselor, and though I've only been once since, the feelings I've been having are making it harder and harder just to function every day. I don't want to eat, I don't want to leave the house, some days I don't even want to get out of bed. My midwife said if things got to this point, she'd want to put me on medication. I've been on certain medications for mood disorders before, and don't like the way some of them make me feel. I'm also concerned that the drugs would harm my otherwise healthy baby, and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself. I feel like I'm a big girl; I should be able to deal with my feelings and not put my baby at risk. I don't know what to do :/


    I feel this way all the time. I'm also not on any Meds and I'm also looking to God to get me through. I haven't slept through the night in months, honestly between the hormones and the reality that I've lost everything in my former life I used to define myself, some days I just want to close my eyes, lay down and wait to die. Actually, most days. Every day.

    Please don't give up. PM me if you ever need to talk, I am the last woman in the world who can judge you. One of the advantages of being a train wreck is that you learn that people are just people trying not to go crazy.

    No real advice...but you aren't alone. And your determination is there. You can do this.
    Do unto others. 
  • I dealt with and treated anxiety for about 5 years then decided to get off the medication to possibly prepare for having a kid. There is a lot of studies on types of food that can really help adjust your mood. I agree with PPs that it is super important to be seen but if you want to avoid taking medication or even just not take it long term there are foods that seem to help if you get them in your diet every day. In fact I just read that turmeric "golden milk" can help with everything from cold symptoms to depression. Google it if you are interested. Also getting the doc to perscibe something that you can take occasionally or just to help you through particularly rough days can help too if you are trying to avoid long term. Hormones are weird, you brain can be in chemical imbalance but one thing is for sure you don't deserve to feel this way. Get some help, medical, spiritual, or food you deserve to feel better. Also acupuncture has actually helped me on really bad days. My anxiety is usually linked to head aches so may be worth seeing someone, it's cheaper than the doc and you can always scratch it I it doesn't help. Good luck
  • Please reach out for help sooner rather than later. There is no shame in needing medication and/or help.
    For those that are feeling his way, it doesn't automatically go away once the baby is born. It often gets worse. Hormones and sleep deprivation are a very scary combination and having a support system or plan in place ahead of time can be helpful.
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  • I agree with the previous posters about medication. Just because you can't see your imbalances and what's going on in your brain doesn't mean you don't have an illness. Talk to professionals and make sure you are medicated if necessary. Don't blame yourself and do everything you can to prepare for your little one. A great diet, exercise, and spoiling yourself every now and then will only help the cause. :)

    I agree with this though honestly I think it's difficult to just accept the word of some person who can't offer you any empirical evidence and willingly swallow medication.

    It can sometimes be a process. Usually the first step of that process is not medication---it's finding the root cause if there is one.

    OP I advise you to see a therapist though I hate giving that advice, especially if you are like me and have tried a dozen times only to get null out of it. But try try try again. As to that, as soon to be mums, we don't have a choice in the matter. We don't have the luxury of giving up now.
    Do unto others. 
  • I have an anxiety disorder that was diagnosed years ago. Even with counseling, I chose to stay on a low dose of Zoloft. I tried a few times over the years to wean off and it didn't work and because I've done well the whole pregnancy, I wasn't going to change it. Everyone is different.
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  • ^^ Very good advice. Careful not to slip into the mentality that the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. I have never taken medication and continue to suffer in silence, if you will, partly because I've just seen so many of my friends have drastic personality changes on meds, get addicted etc.

    But if you are really hurting that much it's silly to rule out trying. 
    Do unto others. 
  • I can only offer what I went through but since I am not your doctor or therapist I can't say what you should do.

    I have a mild case of anxiety that I control without medications. I did take some years ago (can't remember the name) and when I found out I was pregnant I stopped taking them. I to didn't want to chance anything with baby even though my midwife did say they were fine to take. But like I said mine was also a mild case. I can feel when it is coming on and have to take a step back and just breath for a minute. I also count on my husband for support, I seak out what makes me happiest. Now it's my kids, a kiss from them is better then any medicine I can take. But like I said this is my case, it's what works for me. It's all about telling myself it's ok I can over come this, I will do this for my kids. Also a hot bath every night helps me relax. But I have to see my warning signs early or I will have a few tougher days. It's very much about my own personal willpower to overcome this early on. I have also noticed a trend in myself with the change of seasons, even though I love fall and winter I tend to get down easier. I am also religious and find comfort in prayer, if your not religious meditations about the same thing it's worth a try.

    I also believe there are many levels of anxiety and depression so what works for me may not work for you.

    Also watch for the post pardon depression it doesn't always come right after baby is born, it could be a few months after. My husband always keeps an eye on me to watch for any signs to.
  • edited September 2015
    @PetitNightingale, you are really giving some bad advice. To the point of I just can't be polite and just ignore it. The first poster didn't assume OP was religious and you originally did. If you're having suicidal thoughts 'praying them away' isn't the answer. Can it help for some people? Yes, absolutely. However anyone with common sense knows that you need to do more than just pray. Sometimes you need the meds and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's not a weakness to seek help, it's a strength. During pregnancy, especially since OP is already seeing a therapist, there's a chance that things will get amazingly better. Why? One of the best treatments for mental illness is the medication plus having a professional to speak to. Between having a psychologist to speak to regularly and frequent meetings with a midwife, she will be closely monitored. Probably more closely than needed honestly. 

    Getting addicted is a serious problem, I'll give you that one. It is something to be concerned about. The personality shifts though? Of course they may have a personality shift! 

    To be frank with everyone, I'm not on medication for depression nor was I medicated when I found out I was pregnant. I check myself emotion-wise weekly, my SO asks how my depression is weekly to bi-weekly, and we both report back to my OB. Since I will have a higher chance of PPD, my SO and OB will be keeping a very close eye on me at first. At the first sign of me spiralling into a serious depression, I will be medicated. This is what is working for me, but might not work for everyone. 
    I didn't assume she was religious at all. I mentioned that's what *I* did, I did not suggest or recommend that she have anything to do with religion. I agree with you that you can't pray things away. 

      I'm sorry that you disagree with my advice which was mainly: get therapy. I never said it constituted weakness of any kind. I don't really disagree with anything that you wrote above. I do think OP should seek therapy. The medication I am less sold on but I also said she shouldn't rule it out. 
    Do unto others. 
  • I agree with the previous posters about medication. Just because you can't see your imbalances and what's going on in your brain doesn't mean you don't have an illness. Talk to professionals and make sure you are medicated if necessary. Don't blame yourself and do everything you can to prepare for your little one. A great diet, exercise, and spoiling yourself every now and then will only help the cause. :)
    I agree with this though honestly I think it's difficult to just accept the word of some person who can't offer you any empirical evidence and willingly swallow medication. It can sometimes be a process. Usually the first step of that process is not medication---it's finding the root cause if there is one. OP I advise you to see a therapist though I hate giving that advice, especially if you are like me and have tried a dozen times only to get null out of it. But try try try again. As to that, as soon to be mums, we don't have a choice in the matter. We don't have the luxury of giving up now.
    Well, I definitely don't think "some person" can help. Hence why I said professionals, plural. I've struggled with my own issues of anxiety and depression. Talking to someone and "getting to the root of it" is great but some people just can't solve their problems through talking and that's ok. That's what medicine is for. It shouldn't be taboo. It's a branch of health. And I'd rather turn to multiple health professionals and start a journey towards a solution than sit in a dark room alone and pray. But that's me.

    I mention that I pray and all of a sudden everyone thinks I'm advocating tossing medicine to the wind and doing a rain dance for Jesus.

    I agree it shouldn't be taboo. I was simply stating it can be hard to take to the leap of faith to start it because it can be pretty scary. 
    Do unto others. 
  • Plusalso @PetitNightingale this is going to sound rough. But how can you give advice to someone about seeking help etc when you won't take your own advice? Your telling someone that potentially has an illness that most days you feel to die. I'm not sure if OP wants to hear things like that.

    I have a therapist so I'm trying to take my own advice. :) I just wanted her to know she wasn't alone, I meant no harm by it. Personally it helps for me when people make me feel less crazy but I do apologize, OP, if you found that upsetting. 
    Do unto others. 


  • Plusalso @PetitNightingale this is going to sound rough. But how can you give advice to someone about seeking help etc when you won't take your own advice?
    Your telling someone that potentially has an illness that most days you feel to die. I'm not sure if OP wants to hear things like that.


    I have a therapist so I'm trying to take my own advice. :) I just wanted her to know she wasn't alone, I meant no harm by it. Personally it helps for me when people make me feel less crazy but I do apologize, OP, if you found that upsetting. 


    I just think abit of sensitivity will go a long way. Especially when OP is trying to reach out.
  • Pontot31 said:
    ^^ Very good advice. Careful not to slip into the mentality that the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. I have never taken medication and continue to suffer in silence, if you will, partly because I've just seen so many of my friends have drastic personality changes on meds, get addicted etc.

    But if you are really hurting that much it's silly to rule out trying. 
    You. Need. To. Stop. You are giving out horrible advice. You do not know her situation and should not be telling her to avoid drugs. Does she need them? None of us can tell! What we can tell is that she needs to go seek medical advice. You yourself have posted too many crazy stories about all your medical "issues" for anyone to be taking advice from you. OP- please do not listen to her. Talk to your doctor and let them guide you from there.
    I told her to talk to a doctor....honestly....I just said don't rule them out...
    Ugh. 
    Do unto others. 
  • I wasn't trying to do that, I was just trying to help! Jesus on a cracker.

    I'm done. OP, good luck. 
    Do unto others. 
  • First off: most of the advice on here is spot on! The only thing I want to add-- it sound like from your original post that you're only wanting to avoid medication because 1. You're afraid of side effects for baby and 2. You've had medications that didn't work so well in the past.

    As long as your OB is in the loop on the prescription, I wouldn't worry about effects on baby. There are medications which are fine to take during pregnancy, and your OB can confirm that they are fine for you to take.

    As for medication not working in the past-- there are many options out there! I'll preface this by saying that I personally have not had any anxiety or depression issues, but my sisters, husband, and close friend all have. Each person actually had to go through a few different medications and dosages to figure out what works for them. If you don't feel right when taking a certain medication, be sure to talk to your doctor, and they should be able to adjust it or change it to the proper balance.
  • I really appreciate all of your love and support. Knowing I'm not alone has definitely made it easier to think more clearly about what is best for us. Thank you, everyone.
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