Secondary IF

Intro and TTC with known IF ? (not sure if this is where I should be and ***trigger warning***)

Hi Ladies - I was over on the IF board a couple years ago, and we went thru IVF and now have a beautiful energetic toddler!  She's a breath of fresh air (most days hehe) :-)  We were very lucky in that I had know many years in advance what my dx was and we knew from the beginning that we'd most likely need some intervention with TTC.  We started out with a round of IVF and we were blessed that it worked the first time with very minimal hiccups - I did get some wicked OHSS, but compared to what others go through I'd say it was just a small blip of the crappy radar.  We're now thinking about "TTC" #2, and I put TTC in quotes because we have 15 frozen embryos from our first round of IVF so idk how to even classify what we're doing.  That said, did any of you have a similar situation when you started planning for #2 (or more)?  If so, how did you go about it?  Did you TTC naturally first or just go right back to the doc?  My DH and I have mixed feelings about it....we would love it if we could conceive naturally (which, we can't now because I'm on Victoza to control my PCOS And was instructed that I absolutely cannot under any circumstance get pregnant while taking it), but on the other hand we have these 15 other babies waiting for us in the wings and were told that once we're ready we just need to make a phone call and can start the process again.  If you were in the same boat, how did you decide how to proceed?  Thanks in advance for any words of advice.  -Katie
Me 31 ~ DH 30
IVF/FET #1 - BFP!!
<3 CJW 6/15/2014 <3
DX - PCOS 2004
FET #2 - scheduled for 11/24/15

Re: Intro and TTC with known IF ? (not sure if this is where I should be and ***trigger warning***)

  • Wow 15 is a lot! 

    I am in the same boat, and have been thinking about that same thing for a while.  It's totally a personal decision; but for me I decided to try on our own for about 6 months. I knew it was a slim chance but thought if it happened naturally it would be easier on yourself and your pocket book.  (who says pocket book LOL that is such an old phrase.)  Anyways, I kinda set up a time I knew I would call if it didn't work to start the process again.  I have 3 frosties waiting for me and I really feel I need to go back to them anyways.  So, I called and set up an appointment on how to proceed.  Now I am waiting for my period to start the IVF process again.  I don't have any other advice because I am not much ahead of you.  It shouldn't be as much work as last time since you already have the embryos. I believe I do some testing first and then a water ultrasound, then start some meds and then they transfer pretty fast if all goes well.  :-)

    Good Luck to you on whatever you decide!
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  • Yeah, I'm sorry but your situation isn't going to go well over here. Most of the women on this board have been struggling for years to convince another child and gone through countless IUI and IVF cycles with nothing to show for it. I would try a different board or a different 2IF community somewhere else.



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    My FF Chart:
    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/490dd7
    TTC #3 since June 2013
    BFP #1 7/21/2013--EDD 3/30/14--D&C 9/24/13
    BFP #2 1/28/14--MC 2/7/14

    IUI #1 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #2 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #3 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IVF #1, Stimmed for 12 days, ER 8/22/14, 9 retrieved, 7M, 7F!!  Freeze all due to fluid in uterus.
    FET end of October 2014 cancelled due to fluid in uterus due to possible c-scar defect
    Surgery scheduled 12/12/14 to fix possible isthmocele
    3/26/15 transferred one 8 cell grade 4 embryo and one 6 cell grade 3 embryo = slow rising betas for 2+ weeks = ectopic MTX shot 4/29/15
    Repeat c-scar surgery June 2015
    2nd and last IVF cycle August 2015, stimmed for 12 days, 2 egg retrieved, both mature and both fertilized.  Transferred both 8-cell embryos on Day 3, beta 9/5/15 = BFFN
    MOVING TO ADOPTION!  


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    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

  • I am sorry you have IF & 2IF. It sucks. But most of us have been trying just to get some good embryos for years. If I were you and already had that many frozen, just go see your RE when you are ready for #2. What is the question here. If you know you can't do it on your own, just go to your RE when you are ready. Man I wish I had your problem.

    Kid #1 - 09/03/12
    Kid #2 - maybe???
    Diagnosed with Severe Ashermans 
    Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube
    #11 or IVF with scarring still inside?
    1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
  • ellebelle2384ellebelle2384 member
    edited August 2015
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    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

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    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

  • I hope you and your husband figure out what is right for you. I would say as far as IF goes, your problem is a good one to have! It sounds like you need to get off that medication to even think about ttc, so it is probably a little early to be on this board. This board is for those who are actively trying. It sounds as if you are all set should the natural way not work, since you are lucky enough to be blessed with 15 frosties! Good luck with whatever you choose going forward. :)
    ~~ All Welcome~~
    ME: 32, SER aggregates on eggs, anovulatory
    DH:  33, 2% morphology
    TTC #1 
    2 clomid cycles, 3 hybrid clomid/bravelle IUI's = 4 BFN/1 CP@ 5.5 weeks
    IUI #6 -Follitism IUI cycle converted to IVF and back to IUI-4 mature, 3 maybe mature = BFP!!   DS Born 9/2014
    TTC#2 
    IVF #1 9/15 Antagonist- 19 R 1F (Frozen day 1 @ 2PN stage) Diagnosed with SER aggregates in 13/19 eggs after failed fertilization
    IVF #2 11/15 Antagonist w/ICSI  (Higher stims & Letrosole added last minute on stim day 7)- 39R, 24M (20/24 SER free), 15F (14/15 SER free & all frozen @ 2PN stage) 
    FET#1 Cultured all 16- 2pn embryos to day 5- transferred 1 good hatching blast and 1 early blast on 1/28- None to freeze - beta 2/5

  • It sounds like you are in a pretty good position.  Personally, I would get off the medicine... try on your own for a little bit and don't waste too much time and get back to the RE if you are unsuccessful on your own.  Even with good numbers on your side it can still take some time to make things happen... but you should feel good knowing that you were so successful with your embryos the first time around.  Good luck to you!!!
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  • CeCe8579CeCe8579 member
    edited August 2015
    Some here have no babies waiting in the wings, some have even had to come to the realization that they don't get to have any more babies, all would like you to leave!

    STFU, GTFO, KTHXBYE, DAB!
    Carly
    (Former UN: iloveshanej)

    Birdie born 05/01/2007
    Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017                                          


    Potato Launcher


  • FutureMrsW9FutureMrsW9 member
    edited August 2015
    Thanks to those who didn't give me snarky responses! Obviously some of you could infer that I was simply looking for experience (i.e. already been thru the IVF process, which I clearly have) in this decision making from those of you who have been in my situation. I had such a positive and supportive experience over on the IF board when ttc my DD, I foolishly assumed this would be a safe space...I guess I was very wrong. I battled with IF and related issues for almost 10 years, so yeah, it's not like I don't "get it." I'm sorry for everything that you're all going through. Though we all have different stories, we do have IF in common, and I empathize with how much it completely sucks, because, again, I'VE BEEN THERE AND MOST LIKELY WILL BE THERE AGAIN. I wish all off you nothing but the best of luck!
    Me 31 ~ DH 30
    IVF/FET #1 - BFP!!
    <3 CJW 6/15/2014 <3
    DX - PCOS 2004
    FET #2 - scheduled for 11/24/15
  • @meganfauer Victoza doesn't prevent pregnancy, but it's controls my PCOS, as Metformin has never helped me, so my endocrinologist and I decided that this was the best interim solution so that I could avoid being on the pill but still control my IR. Unfortunately, it's not a drug that's safe for pregnancy...pros and cons.
    Me 31 ~ DH 30
    IVF/FET #1 - BFP!!
    <3 CJW 6/15/2014 <3
    DX - PCOS 2004
    FET #2 - scheduled for 11/24/15
  • @1983Lindsey2 I think you and I were on the IF board and conceived #1 around the same time...good luck with #2!!! :) I know this is for those who are actively trying, which is why I asked here because I wanted experience from someone in a similar boat, and this seemed like where it would fit best since there might be mom's on here who had IF with #1 and bitter moving to #2. I'm going to my endocrinologist on Monday to discuss my status, go over recent bloodwork and talk ttc #2, so I'm guessing she's going to tell me to stop....which means buh bye ovulation :(
    Me 31 ~ DH 30
    IVF/FET #1 - BFP!!
    <3 CJW 6/15/2014 <3
    DX - PCOS 2004
    FET #2 - scheduled for 11/24/15
  • CeCe8579CeCe8579 member
    edited August 2015
    Read, lurk and know your audience please! The whole OMG, you guys are snarky and I've been there post won't get it here. We're going to tell you the truth.
    Carly
    (Former UN: iloveshanej)

    Birdie born 05/01/2007
    Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017                                          


    Potato Launcher


  • FutureMrsW9FutureMrsW9 member
    edited August 2015
    Iloveshanej Yup, I've been lurking these pages for a long long time and considering where my question would fit best.  Obviously not in TTC because those women don't know hide nor hair of frozen embryos and IVF and ET.  MOST of you seem level headed and reasonable, so I didn't think it was an issue.  And I'm pretty sure I never said "...OMG, you guys are snarky...."  I have more tact than that, I simply stated that there were some snarky responses, which if you look back there are - just using an adjective for responses that were written.  But thanks for the feedback.  Good luck with your 2IF journey!
    Me 31 ~ DH 30
    IVF/FET #1 - BFP!!
    <3 CJW 6/15/2014 <3
    DX - PCOS 2004
    FET #2 - scheduled for 11/24/15
  • Bye Felicia! If you lurked you would know my 2IF journey ended without choice. You actually didn't lurk or read anything because your lack of tack in your OP is the problem here but kthxbye!
    Carly
    (Former UN: iloveshanej)

    Birdie born 05/01/2007
    Rainbow Surprise Baby due 05/26/2017                                          


    Potato Launcher


  • @FutureMrsW9 yes I totally remember you now!!! Welcome!! I guess I just wasn't sure if you gonna be trying right now or not, I didn't mean to me rude. :) I hope your appointment goes well. Maybe you will keep ovulating on your own for a bit if the med has tricked your body into doing it. I was hoping after my first that I would start ovulating and not need treatments with #2, but after 9 months I gave up and went back to the RE. My AFC was 30 in one ovary and 40 in another, and has stayed around there even after 2 doses of Provera, so glad I didn't wait too long because he said I would not be ovulating with ovaries like that!! My hormones are 100% normal though and my LH FSH ratio was 1:1 like it always has been, so I kept hoping too that I might not need the treatments again. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Let us know what happens with your appointment :) You are in a good situation should you not keep ovulating though with having so many embryos. That has to be some relief. I remember everything you went through with #1. I am wishing you tons of luck with #2.
    ~~ All Welcome~~
    ME: 32, SER aggregates on eggs, anovulatory
    DH:  33, 2% morphology
    TTC #1 
    2 clomid cycles, 3 hybrid clomid/bravelle IUI's = 4 BFN/1 CP@ 5.5 weeks
    IUI #6 -Follitism IUI cycle converted to IVF and back to IUI-4 mature, 3 maybe mature = BFP!!   DS Born 9/2014
    TTC#2 
    IVF #1 9/15 Antagonist- 19 R 1F (Frozen day 1 @ 2PN stage) Diagnosed with SER aggregates in 13/19 eggs after failed fertilization
    IVF #2 11/15 Antagonist w/ICSI  (Higher stims & Letrosole added last minute on stim day 7)- 39R, 24M (20/24 SER free), 15F (14/15 SER free & all frozen @ 2PN stage) 
    FET#1 Cultured all 16- 2pn embryos to day 5- transferred 1 good hatching blast and 1 early blast on 1/28- None to freeze - beta 2/5

  • I think you might get better responses on PAIF or SAIF.  Many here have not been in the position you are in going into TTC again.
    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

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