Trump called bf/pumping disgusting!

MrsB915 · July 2015

My cousin posted a link to a story about Trump refusing to take a break when an opposing lawyer asked for a "medically necessary " break so she could go pump. I reposted this and my husband's aunt and I proceed to have a slightly heated debate about it. She was on Trump's side saying that women not pumping at work always worked before. I explained that that was because new mothers stayed home or had to rely on formula (nothing against ff). I said it is a woman's hard fought right not to have to choose between her career and feeding her child breast milk. She then said that it is disgusting because she had to cover for a coworker who "did the breastfeeding and pumping thing at work."

I ended the discussion politely saying that, once again, bf/pumping is not disgusting. It saved my son's life.

I was shocked to see such a strong stance against bf from a woman. I guess experience colors opinions.

CaraBoonie · July 2015

The more Trump says, the more I find it unlikely that any woman will ever vote for him (have you seen his latest statements on rape?), so he should fade away soon, no worries

indibidule · July 2015

Trump is and has always been a disgusting ass. The more he opens his mouth, the more he proves it.

bmmims · July 2015

Can you share this link? I am interested to read

MrsB915 · July 2015

Oh, I have no fear that he will get very far. I was more upset by the comments I received from my dh aunt defending Trump and agreeing that bf was disgusting.

I'll see if I can share the link. I'm mobile and not very tech savy.

CaraBoonie · July 2015

She thinks that bfing in general is disgusting, or just super open in public? Because, I mean, (devil's advocate, not saying *I* think bfing is disgusting, but going off of her argument) pooping is gross, but people do it at the office in private, and will stop a meeting if they really have to do it at that moment, so why should another bodily function not be treated similarly?

MrsB915 · July 2015

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406780/-To-Donald-Trump-a-woman-needing-to-pump-breast-milk-is-disgusting

JandJ62914 · July 2015

It's amazing to me that anyone would have that standpoint in the year 2015. My dad is a retired teacher and football coach and was also at one point the union rep for the district he taught in. Back in the 80s he fought the school to allow a new mom (one of his coworkers) to go breastfeed her baby on her lunch period. The school had a policy that teachers couldn't leave the premises during the school day and her baby was at a daycare just around the corner. They eventually allowed it. I know it's not exactly the same debate as a woman pumping at work. However, if back in the 80s my dad would stand up for a woman to be able to leave work to breastfeed her baby and got everyone on board, how is it that almost four decades later people can be so in the dark about it?

I have to say that the fact that my dad, a football coach who are often stereotyped to be hard asses, fighting for a woman's right to breastfeed makes me so damn proud every time that I think of it.

Paige6410 · July 2015

This is not surprising. He's a disgusting person.

DianaL92 · July 2015

His twitter response to CNN was a knee slapper! I'm sure she didn't want to pump in front of him. What a load of crap

LauraFi · July 2015

Trump campaigning to run for president is just a joke right?

MrsB915 · July 2015

@CaraBoonie I'm not sure if she meant in general or at work. Yeah, there's nothing pleasant about pumping but I'd never do it in front of anyone. And yeah, his reply that she wanted to pump in front of him is absurd. I didn't even like pumping in front of dh, nevermind a jerk like Trump. I think he's saving face because it was pointed out to him that that view is very outdated and would cost him votes.

I think he's just bored and thought a campaign for President would be a fun way to spend his billions.

CaraBoonie · July 2015

@MrsB915 Not to mention full of himself and likes attention. People very close to me have personally worked with him on certain projects and he is even more horrible in private than what the public sees.

SummerOH · July 2015

@MrsB915 Your aunt is ridiculous. Workers are entitled to lunch breaks and two breaks throughout an 8 hour day. I got so fast at pumping that I was able to do 3 sessions in an 8-9 hour day using my breaks. What does she think about smokers? Because they seem to take more breaks than nursing moms! What a hateful stance. Sad.

UptownPearl · July 2015

@CaraBoonie I agree! I understand the standpoint that BF is "gross" because it involves bodily fluid and private parts and makes people uncomfortable, but that doesn't make it unnecessary or unnatural. A lot of natural things about our bodies are unpleasant, that doesn't mean we just figure out how to live without it. We all have to poop and pee even if it's considered gross. Moms definitely don't enjoy pumping and a lot don't enjoy breastfeeding, we do it anyways because babies NEED to eat and our bodies are designed to feed them. The topic of breastfeeding would be SO different if it were men and not women that did it. I swear, there would be comfy private breastfeeding rooms in every establishment and free pumps handed out to every expecting employee.

MrsB915 · July 2015

@SummerOH I was going to make the same point about smokers in my discussion with her but I think she is a smoker (only met her once or twice years ago) and I didn't want to be perceived as striking a low blow.

The smoke break comparison is so accurate. I can't tell you how many smoke breaks I've had to cover throughout my work history. I never thought it was fair but bosses never batted an eye when a coworker "needed" a smoke break. So when I was in college I started to take "smoke breaks" myself. I'd announce I was going like my coworkers did and just go outside for 3-4 min and have my little break. They never said anything, probably knew it was just.

CBWifey · July 2015

I just watched the actual interviews with both parties on the news, the lady says she needed to excuse herself to pump, trump says she wanted to pump in front of her. He said she said. That being said I agree with all of you that breastfeeding isn't looked at fairly. In my past job I pumped in a hallway by a bathroom because they weren't about to give up the one office they do business in at my work. And when I broached the pumping subject as far as time needed to do that, the rules didn't apply to my company because typical laws protecting us, only apply to certain business. They had less than 50 employees so I was entitled to nothing according to them.

TinyDancer51510 · July 2015

Trump is a child masquerading as a man.

l4rk · July 2015

I think Trump is just a ploy, meant to make whoever their real candidate is look good when they announce. Everyone will just be like, "Oh, thank god it's not Trump. Now we can vote for this other old, rich, white guy who seems so reasonable in comparison."

Threeplusoneontheway · August 2015

I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

Vamason89 · August 2015

@Threeplusoneontheway That is quite the statement. I'm fairly certain a woman who is BF isn't trying to get on Girls Gone Wild, so let's calm down a bit.

Trump is disgusting. I haven't heard him say one thing that doesn't make me shiver & I vote republican. (Note: I am not a rich white dude -- I am aware of that.) He's way too extreme to make it anywhere. This is what I tell myself at least...

DylansCandyBar · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:
I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

Oh FFS.

Paige6410 · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:
I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

Dude. No. I DGAF who I make uncomfortable as long as my child is happy and fed. It's not like I'm spraying down bystanders super soaker style with breastmilk, and women don't just leave their breasts blowing in the wind out in public.
You know what is also common courtesy? Minding your own damn business and looking the other way.

arose3eb · August 2015

I sincerely hope that anyone who has the ability to breastfeed understands that a breast is there for the purpose of feeding a woman's child, it's not there as something to be sexualized. So yeah, IDGAF if someone gets offended by watching my kid eat, it's "common courtesy" to put the nutritional needs and comfort of a baby over any adult feeling "disgusted".

ash413 · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:
I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

Women are not running around top less just waiting for their kid to get hungry. The boob is exposed for maybe a few seconds before the baby latched and feeding, you are more than welcome to divert your gaze.
Not to mention this lawyer, was trying to take a break to pump in private. So I am really not sure where you are going with that statement.
Trump is an attention seeking, sexist, pig; and lazy voters who don't want to research the candidates is how idiots get voted into office.

RepeatPostPolice · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:
I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

So do you literally ask everyone in your vicinity or within eyesight for permission before you breastfeed your kid? What do you do if they say no, go hide in a toilet stall? That is such a ridiculous statement.
And I'm not even going to dignify your political propaganda with a response.

MollyA1011 · August 2015

I can't believe it's an issue for women to breastfeed wherever they find necessary. When a puppies are feeding off of their mother, is that "disgusting" or uncomfortable to see? Humans are supposed to be different? I don't understand it at all.

RepeatPostPolice · August 2015

MollyA1011 said:
I can't believe it's an issue for women to breastfeed wherever they find necessary. When a puppies are feeding off of their mother, is that "disgusting" or uncomfortable to see? Humans are supposed to be different? I don't understand it at all.

It's this disgusting, perverted, patriarchal, sexist idea called a double standard.
Women are supposed to have babies and be mothers because that's what our bodies do, but we are also supposed to be "sexy." Breastfeeding a baby is not "sexy." Breasts by themselves have been sexualized to a point where they are only seen as a feature of attractiveness, not a functioning organ in the reproductive system. This viewpoint has probably been reinforced by the availability and popularity of bottle feeding (note that this is not a criticism of anyone who chooses to bottle feed their children).

It is unfortunate that someone with as high exposure as Trump made a comment like he did, but even more unfortunate that people are justifying and defending it for the sake of a political point of view.

arose3eb · August 2015

@RepeatPostPolice

essentialpeace · August 2015

UptownPearl said:
@CaraBoonie I agree! I understand the standpoint that BF is "gross" because it involves bodily fluid and private parts and makes people uncomfortable, but that doesn't make it unnecessary or unnatural. A lot of natural things about our bodies are unpleasant, that doesn't mean we just figure out how to live without it. We all have to poop and pee even if it's considered gross. Moms definitely don't enjoy pumping and a lot don't enjoy breastfeeding, we do it anyways because babies NEED to eat and our bodies are designed to feed them. The topic of breastfeeding would be SO different if it were men and not women that did it.****** I swear, there would be comfy private breastfeeding rooms in every establishment and free pumps handed out to every expecting employee.

Your last sentence is on point! I usually don't weigh-in on male vs female, but I feel like this is oh so true. And sad. Very sad.

Lljbean · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:

I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

I actually know very few woman who are totally comfortable with breast feeding their children in public, thanks to people like Trump. However, I do know that these same woman would rather sit through stares/dirty looks/ and unwelcome comments to make sure the well being of their child is met. It is sad they have to deal with things like that in what is supposed to be a progressive society. You might not like Obama for having the audacity to support women's rights, however when push comes to shove, only one of these men would support you in a time of need. (Spoiler Alert: It isn't Trump) Super glad you are (I'm guessing) eligible to vote.

WhitMathis · August 2015

ash413 said:

Threeplusoneontheway said:
I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.
Women are not running around top less just waiting for their kid to get hungry. The boob is exposed for maybe a few seconds before the baby latched and feeding, you are more than welcome to divert your gaze.
Not to mention this lawyer, was trying to take a break to pump in private. So I am really not sure where you are going with that statement.
Trump is an attention seeking, sexist, pig; and lazy voters who don't want to research the candidates is how idiots get voted into office.

Lol that's exactly how Obama was elected TWICE!

PrimRoseMama · August 2015

I can & do nurse in public without giving a damn. I support any working mother's right to take breaks to pump. I support breast feeding as any woman sees fit. Not your breasts & not your problem!

#freethenipple
#nationalbreastfeedingweek

nlwz123 · August 2015

Threeplusoneontheway said:

I have and will breastfeed my next baby and I don't see how women are so comfortable to pull out their boobs to start pumping/breastfeeding. Why can't it be common courtesy to not expose yourself to people that might feel uncomfortable? Trump 2016! Anything is better than a supporter of killing babies like King Obama.

Oh wow...lol.

You cannot possibly be making a suggestion in regards to common courtesy and then followup with saying "Trump 2016!"

gravcass · August 2015

*lurker from TTGP* I'll probably get flack for this, so if I offend anyone I apologize.

The statements given vary so much within this story it's hard to find the truth.

Trump claims he finds the play to use Pumping as a way to halt the negotiations "disgusting", meaning she did it on purpose as a business strategy. He also claims there was a break scheduled at 3 specifically for this mother to pump, and there is also a statement that he had another lawyer replaced because the other gentleman wanted to take a pee break. hard to claim this as sexist when he was being a dick to everyone)

On the other hand the mother claims there was a 12:30 lunch break that she was planning on using to pump that Trump completely disregarded and had them work through. Which I for one very well believe. She was then told she was disgusting for pumping.

So either:
1) Trump disregarded a mothers need to pump, acting like an ass.
2) the opposing client (mother) knew she was loosing and used pumping as an excuse to stall for time.
3) trump is an idiot and didn't realize that a mother needs to pump multiple times a day and the 12:30 slot he took away was detrimental to her child's feeding schedule.

All are likely in my eyes in the business world and it is really hard to make a judgment on something I was not an eye witness to.

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