June 2015 Moms

Angry Mama Bears

Since the angry pregnant ladies thread did so well, I thought I'd start one for postpartum. I find myself getting quite heated on LOs behalf!

Re: Angry Mama Bears

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  • I can't look at pictures from LOs birth without feeling ill and upset. Because in the pictures you can very clearly see his right arm is hanging at an unnatural angle. When they were pulling him out, I felt a snap inside me. Thinking of it now makes me sick. As soon as he was born I said to the docs and midwife "his arm, is there something wrong with his arm?" I must have said it five times and was ignored every time. The pediatrician who examined LO in the hospital had nothing to say about it either so I put it out of my mind. My doula took a look at him a few days later and said he had a broken clavicle. Go figure. The lactation consultant said the same, and at our ped visit with our permanent doctor yesterday it took her all of ten seconds to say it was broken but had already begun to heal so there was not much to be done about it now. But that it could be why he stopped latching a few days in-- it was causing him pain while nursing. What the hell is wrong with the medical staff that they didn't think to check it out or listen to me when I KNEW something was wrong? Now we are exclusively pumping and it is what it is but those few days where I felt like he was starving because he would not take my breast I was inches from jumping off the edge, and to find out it was because of an oversight that was causing my LO terrible pain is infuriating. And it makes me mad at myself for not saying THERES SOMETHING WRONG 6 times instead of 5. He is fine now- it no longer causes him pain, but I feel like my birth experience is forever tainted when I look at the pictures and see the doctor bending his BROKEN BONE back to take his heartbeat. The first words I said to him when he was born were "I'm so sorry" because I knew something was wrong. I hate that the most vivid memory I have of his birth is feeling his bone break inside me.

    Glad I got this off my chest, I hope I can get over it now.


    Aww so sorry!! This happened to my husband when he was born too.
  • @Serenamarr I would be livid too. I hope it heals without any problems.
  • btm013btm013 member
    @Serenamarr I am so sorry you went through this and I can't believe the doctors/nurses didn't listen to you and they missed it! I broke my collarbone coming out of my mother. She thought she felt and heard a "ping". It took them a day or two to figure it out as well. They ended up pinning (with a safety pin!) my sleeve to my shirt. It healed within a day or two. My niece also broke her collar bone and had trouble nursing on one side as well. It's much more common than you think. Not that it makes the situation any better!! I am by no means trying to diminish your feelings. I hope you can find peace one day.
  • @Serenamarr my heart goes out to you!
  • im so sorry that happened to you @Serenamarr

    honestly i dont know if im angry or upset over this but it seems the place to post it. please keep in mind the things will be a little scattered as my memory is not great (only had 4 hours of sleep before the induction, and its just overwhelming)
    i feel that i had a very traumatic birth experience. but luckily i cant physically remember the pain during the worst of it.
    after going through contractions that were maybe 20 seconds apart at most from 8 in the morning my doctor returned around "sometime after 7"(he was ALMOST AN HOUR late because he was stuck behind slow traffic [which im not mad about that the traffic between towns gets crazy in the summer, and my progress was slow between the 1st and 2nd checks] and they were big campers apparently) and when he arrived he checked my cervix and (from almost 5am checked about 3 hours prior) i had dialated to 9cm. my heart sank as i had asked the nurse who kept checking me what the epidural window is like (she said theres not really a minimum dialation, but once 9cm its too late) i was very upset, i was looking to getting one because the pain was becoming a little too uncomfortable and i knew it would get worse. the doctor then announced that he is going to break my water and i thought it was too late for an epidural (so i kept quiet and honestly it wasnt on my mind at that time) basically the pain got way worse after that(to the point of eye watering and writhing) and it kept getting worse and worse like actual crying and hyperventilating. was told its time to start pushing and after a half an hour of nothing i mentally couldnt do it with the pain. it got to the point where DH asked if theres anything they could give me (he knows i take pain well but this was way too much) and they called in the epidural person after a very serious "are you sure?" from my doctor (which took 20 minutes to arrive after i was told 10) while waiting i would practically scream with every contraction. i told them i cant do it over and over again when one lady was trying to get me to push while waiting (not a fan of hers for that) so when the epidural finally happened i calmed right down and felt so much better. i could breathe and all that. after trying to push post epidural the doctor said his head will not fit without major tearing (he said it would be in like 5 different directions) so it was in my best interest to get cut and have it be controlled, which i agreed to. then after some pushes (maybe 8 sets of 3/4?) he came out blah blah blah like 20 stitches and so on and so forth.

    basically what really upsets/bothers me is that no one informed me before they broke my water that it wasnt too late for an epidural. the nurse saw my state get worse and worse. i had asked her about the time frame for it to be done, in a way i feel like they let me get to my worst point without saying anything previously to prevent me screaming and crying. i almost screamed just to cut me open (his head is 18cm)
    like i could have had my water broken before the epidural even fully kicked in.
    instead i had it done out of necessity between very strong contractions where i was told not to move. if not for the gas, i would probably be paralyzed just out of jolting unknowingly from the pain. im bitter and angry about it. and thinking about it makes me want to cry again.
  • Thanks everyone for the support. FI doesn't really understand and is just kind of like "he's fine now, just get over it." I don't think men fully understand the significance of the birth experience and how the memory of it can shape how you relate to your LO in the future. It's so hard knowing he was in pain and I was unaware! And it's such a shame to me because every other aspect of my care and time in the hospital was wonderful-- all the nurses in the mother-baby unit were lifesavers and it was such a beautiful peaceful day and a half. It sucks that now all I can think about is how much pain LO was in while I thought he was fine.

    @JessHeppell I'm sorry for you too- it is not a good feeling to not be kept in the loop/informed about your own body. I waited until I was at that pain level to get an epidural by choice, I wanted to try to go without, but after stalling at 8 cm and having that pain quadruple when they broke my water (I shouldn't have let her do that!) I knew I had reached my limit. I can't imagine involuntarily going through it!



  • @Serenamarr Sorry to hear about your lo and his broken bone.
    @JessHeppell sorry to hear about the confusion with the epidural. I went all natural but that was my choice so it is awful that you asked for it and didnt give it to you.
    I will piggyback on your alls anger with the medical professionals at your birth. I met this week with a pediatric cardiologist for dd to have another echo since I was supposed to check on the hole in her heart and see if it fixed itself. Well the dr told me that there were actually 3 things that were wrong with it at birth based on the 1st echo. And not only was there one whole in fact there were two and something wrong with the vessels.The only thing that fixed itself was the vessel.
    But definitely more upset that I was told at 6 weeks about something that was seen at birth but not deemed important enough to tell me or dh.
  • janat1717janat1717 member
    edited July 2015
    That makes me super angry just thinking about it. He has a super caring mama though which is awesome
  • @Serenamarr I'm so sorry about your LO.
    I also "stalled" at 8 cm and then got the epidural before they broke my water. On the one hand, I'm mad that they left me alone for 2 hours after the epidural, so it had worn off completely by the time they broke my water. (DH eventually went screaming into the hallway and suddenly we had several medical staff on hand.)
    On the other hand, I feel like I had the med-free birth that I (thought I) wanted, because by the time I was pushing, I had zero pain meds.

    Upon some reading after the birth, I saw it's quite common to hit 8 cm and then for the body to take a while to progress. So I'm wondering if we really "stalled" @Serenamarr or whether that's just how it goes. I'm a little hung up on it, too, and DH is so traumatized from the birth (like you, @JessHeppell , I was screaming and in tons of pain, and barely conscious) he is saying no more kids. (Yeah, no. LO is not going to be an only child like DH. No.)

    Anyway, I'm really sorry you both have birth experiences that cloud your arrival of LO. Big hugs, ladies
  • @Serenamarr I'm so sorry about your LO.
    I also "stalled" at 8 cm and then got the epidural before they broke my water. On the one hand, I'm mad that they left me alone for 2 hours after the epidural, so it had worn off completely by the time they broke my water. (DH eventually went screaming into the hallway and suddenly we had several medical staff on hand.)
    On the other hand, I feel like I had the med-free birth that I (thought I) wanted, because by the time I was pushing, I had zero pain meds.

    Upon some reading after the birth, I saw it's quite common to hit 8 cm and then for the body to take a while to progress. So I'm wondering if we really "stalled" @Serenamarr or whether that's just how it goes. I'm a little hung up on it, too, and DH is so traumatized from the birth (like you, @JessHeppell , I was screaming and in tons of pain, and barely conscious) he is saying no more kids. (Yeah, no. LO is not going to be an only child like DH. No.)

    Anyway, I'm really sorry you both have birth experiences that cloud your arrival of LO. Big hugs, ladies

    Yes I got the epidural after my water was broken and then like you said was basically left alone for two hours and by the time I was pushing I could feel everything. The contraction immediately before LO was born was when they used the vacuum and the peak of crowning is where my contractions decided to stop for a few minutes. So I sat there with the widest part of LOs head stretching the crap out of my Virginia for a solid three minutes, unable to go forward just waiting for another contraction. Also felt all the stitches. Erk.
  • I'm angry that my OB/Midwifes office wouldn't do his circumcision in the hospital when he was born. They said they wait a few weeks so that it doesn't mess up establishing breast feeding. I told them I was concerned because he wouldn't be as much in the sleepy newborn stage after a few weeks... But they were firm on their policy. He had the procedure yesterday at about 3 1/2 weeks... And sure enough it's been an awful two days. I really hope tomorrow gets better. I was so tired and frustrated by this evening. I just held him and we cried together.
  • JessHeppellJessHeppell member
    edited July 2015
    i am so livid with the girlfriend of the guy i worked for. she is pregnant too, due the end of august.

    when i was in the hospital after LOs birth i get a text saying they are maybe going to come visit me. they were already at the hospital for a NST for their baby, well that time didnt work out but they would be back at noon for an US, so i was waiting from noon till 2pm with LO sleeping the whole time. get a text at 2:30 saying they arent coming because apparently the US ran late. (minorly pissed i stayed up waiting instead of sleeping but its my fault so whatever)

    so my mom and sister came over today and my mom (who works at the restaurant with her) found out and told me that she didnt want to visit me in the hospital, because shes super angry/jealous over how "easy" my pregnancy has been.. claiming she has been perfect and eating healthy and this shouldnt be happening to her.
    she seems to ignore the fact that she is quite overweight, over 40 years old, smokes like a pack a day, eats foods that are quite salty like beef dip sandwiches, nachos and poutine, (she only ever eats food from the restaurant because theyre never at home) unless she has a table of customers she is sitting on her ass on facebook (in the front no less which looks incredibly unprofessional, but the owner/"chef" does it too so we wont go there) so she has high blood pressure, GD, preeclampsia, swollen this uncomfortable that type thing.
    you cant compare yourself to a 20 year old who was on her feet for most of the day unless not at work(even then i would get groceries on my days off), is a totally different size than you, doesnt have any already existing issues, doesnt smoke and ate quite healthy when i was able to eat. did i mention i got morning sickness for fucking 5 months straight? that i lost 10 lbs because i couldnt eat? that i had no energy? no breaks to sit on my ass at work?

    all that food made her salty as f*ck.
    my mom hopes she tears right to her butthole(she has a lot of issues with her as well, that are work related) and honestly doesnt want to be friends with her anymore, and they used to be best friends.

    ETA: obviously it sucks that she has all these issues.. but i dont feel bad for her anymore.
  • edited July 2015
    mvargas12 said:

    I'm not sure where a couple of you ladies were talking about your SOs touching the sleeping baby and thought this was appropriate

    omg, this is ME! I just woke up DH to show him this, too mwahahaha
  • @Serenamarr Your dog is like mine when walking in neighborhood. They've even been through advanced obedience, won awards with rally and agility but cannot pass a dog near the house without a freak out. I'm not brave enough to take with LO in the wrap but there's two of them and they are 50lbs. I also hate the loose dog people. Not cool
  • mvargas12mvargas12 member
    edited July 2015
    I don't have the knowledge, time, or energy to edit his name out but this wonderful post was on my feed today.

    What happened? Um. THEY HAD A FREAKING BABY.

    ETA: I almost ignored it. I couldn't. I commented.
  • lwyzlwyz member
    I'm certain I have yeast on my nipples due to the non latch related excruciating pain and heat radiating from them, and speaking to a nurse, but I just saw my doctor and apparently my nipples just need to 'toughen up'. I am torn between stabbing him and just sobbing my life away.
  • mvargas12 said:

    I don't have the knowledge, time, or energy to edit his name out but this wonderful post was on my feed today.

    What happened? Um. THEY HAD A FREAKING BABY.

    ETA: I almost ignored it. I couldn't. I commented.

    What an ass! What did you say??!
  • mvargas12mvargas12 member
    edited July 2015
    I just said they had a freaking baby. To which he replied, "so it's okay to use that she just had a baby excuse when the child was born in 2011, it is 2015 and she is still big and are just unattractive?"

    That's verbatim. All grammar mistakes are his.

    ETA: I agree it's no excuse but it's still not his place.
  • mindaamindaa member
    janit368 said:

    @Serenamarr Your dog is like mine when walking in neighborhood. They've even been through advanced obedience, won awards with rally and agility but cannot pass a dog near the house without a freak out. I'm not brave enough to take with LO in the wrap but there's two of them and they are 50lbs. I also hate the loose dog people. Not cool

    Can I just say I love both of you ladies for being such considerate, leash-using dog owners. As a runner, off leash dogs are one of my biggest peeves. (Is pretty scary to get chased by a strange dog)
    We went for a walk in the park last night and a family had 5-6 dogs running loose around the kids play area. Didn't look like any kids were there at the time, but all i could think was if that ever happens when my LO is there, this mama bear is going to get seriously angry.
    Me-37, DH-38
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    Baby Boy born June 1, 2015

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  • mvargas12 said:

    I just said they had a freaking baby. To which he replied, "so it's okay to use that she just had a baby excuse when the child was born in 2011, it is 2015 and she is still big and are just unattractive?"

    That's verbatim. All grammar mistakes are his.

    ETA: I agree it's no excuse but it's still not his place.

    Tell him to gain 50 pounds in 9 months and see how long it takes him to get back to being "attractive" -_- also I have a feeling this guy is not super attractive to begin with, what's his excuse? Lol
  • lwyz said:

    I'm certain I have yeast on my nipples due to the non latch related excruciating pain and heat radiating from them, and speaking to a nurse, but I just saw my doctor and apparently my nipples just need to 'toughen up'. I am torn between stabbing him and just sobbing my life away.

    The lactation consultants at the hospital told me if it hurts we're not doing it right. So far, this has been true for me, granted i've done a fair amount of pumping. Do you have access to a lactation consultant?
  • mvargas12 said:

    I just said they had a freaking baby. To which he replied, "so it's okay to use that she just had a baby excuse when the child was born in 2011, it is 2015 and she is still big and are just unattractive?"

    That's verbatim. All grammar mistakes are his.

    ETA: I agree it's no excuse but it's still not his place.

    Tell him to gain 50 pounds in 9 months and see how long it takes him to get back to being "attractive" -_- also I have a feeling this guy is not super attractive to begin with, what's his excuse? Lol
    I ALMOST pointed out his appearance but I managed to be civil lol not that he deserves it

  • I really think it's true that it shouldn't hurt to nurse. Your nipples will be sore after nursing for the first few weeks but the act itself shouldn't hurt.

    My nipples were torn to shreds and blistered and scabbed to hell - horrifically painful - but when the LC latched her it didn't hurt.
    TTC: 1/2014 BFP: 9/24 EDD: 6/8/2015 Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
  • you try to give people simple instructions -_- but nope.
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