November 2015 Moms

Not guilty..just hopeful

To better understand this situation this will be a long post sorry in advance.

So I have had uti after uti this pregnancy and the dr is working on finding out why they continue to come back and why the antibiotics are not helping like they should.
Almost a week ago I called the on call nurse because I wanted to be sure it was okay to take tylenol (or whatever I could take) with the antibiotic I was on for the UtI.
Better safe than sorry, I was unsure so I called.
I was in so much pain this day I couldn't roll over in bed. I couldn't be touched, I couldn't move. My entire body head to toe was in pain. But my head and right below the center of my back had passed a level 10 pain. And even tho it was a small temp nothing drastic at all, in 20 min my temp went from 98.1 to 99.5 and only continued to increase And i had vomited twice that morning. This was not the first iv felt like this, a few days before then a few before that (so off and on) and I had finally had enough which I told the on call nurse.
I was not intending on going to the er. I just wanted to stop the pain and prevent a fever from coming on making things worse. The nurse said to skip the tylenol she was glad I called to ask what I could take but she was curious as to if the infection had moved into my kidneys and told me to go straight to the ER, so if they needed the dr they could call him.

When I arrived the nurses I had were very nice and got me set up in a room with no problems. Once the RN came in everything changed.
She didn't ask what was going on, she didn't introduce herself, her name was never spoken and her name ID was hidden under the bottom hem of her shirt.
All she said to me was "how far along are you" when she walked In the room and I told her 18 weeks 2 days.
It was silent for a moment so I went on to explain what was going on. She cut me off before I could get the first word out of my mouth and said; this was the LAST thing she said to me:
"We are not here to hand out free ultrasounds, in fact it would be a waste of my time to even get one done to make sure the baby is okay because if it were to be dead there is nothing we could do until 20 weeks. So I don't see why you are here, what the point in you coming in to be seen was to begin with."

Mind you my grandmother and 2 year old are in the room with me, I was curled up in the hospital bed with a blanket that had a decent sized wet spot from where I had been crying from the pain previously.

I sat straight up and told her: if it were my choice they would have told me what pains meds were okay to take with my antibiotic and I would be home in the dark in bed wrapped up in a blanket. I did not ask to be there, I did not want to be there, I was simply doing what the on call nurse had instructed me to do, no if you dont mind listening to why I'm here to begin with maybe we can stop wasting both of our time and get this taken care of.
I continued on telling her What I had told the on call nurse and 4 other nurses at the hospital, I also added on that whoever had the room previously had spilled something sticky on the floor and I had fallen on my ass bc of it once so unless they wanted more problems it needed to be cleaned.
She left the room and the nurse came back in hooked me up to an IV bag of fluids, which putting the needle in almost went through and back out of the skin as she put It in, gave me Tylenol and left for another 4 hours before coming back in to tell me the RN wanted a pelvic exam then I could leave once they were done. So we went to get that taken care of and I was sent back to the room for another hour. I was there a total of 7 hours. When the pelvic exam came back normal they told me I could leave. The nurse went to take out the iv needle, she peeled off a small portion of the tape placed over it then ripped it all off at once pulling not only part of the iv out with it but the top layer of my skin off with it leaving it sore and raw gave me my discharge papers and left (that puddle I told them about still on the floor 5 hours after I had told them about it being there and slipped on once.

I had a follow up with my OB and he said they had just hired on a new team of people to the ER staff and tho he didn't know her he knew she was one of the new members. He was as angry as I was if not more. He told me he would set up a meeting with the the ER director and hospital administration about the specific nurse and RN I had and he would hopefully let me know what would be done, he said she would be lucky to be working in the hospital when he was done with the situation.

I don't feel guilty for her possibly losing her job. I'm hopeful.

1. I never asked for an ultrasound. Never even brought up my pregnancy other than to inform them of how far along I was and what the OC nurse had told me to do bc of all the pain I was in.
2. No member of a hospital should treat a patient like that.
3.if it is such a waste of your time, give your job to someone who could use that time as a value not a waste.
ON A PLUS SIDE: it was not my kidneys, but I was severely dehydrated and the water I had been drinking through the day would basically go right through me.

Again so sorry this is so long.

How would you have reacted?

Re: Not guilty..just hopeful

  • I would have been pissed and tried to have filed a complaint on the woman.  I wish you could have found out her name.  The nerve of her to be so rude. 

    On a lighter note, I hope you are feeling better! 

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  • Honestly, I think you reacted perfectly. I couldn't believe what the nurse said, so I was so glad you said what you did!
  • Let me just tell you that you are about 100000000x nicer then me.. You reacted in the most polite manner you could and even though they were assholes (for the lack of a better term) you didn't react in an outrageous way... You reacted perfectly to the situation and I applaud you =D>
  • What. A. Bitch. (Her, not you)
  • Trust me I wish I could go back and tell her what I think. I know I have it reported but it still makes me angry. It's like they want to get paid without doing any of the work bc it's a waste of time. Even being dehydrated like i was, was still something that my ob was concerned about at the follow up appointment. He said the reason they couldn't get me in the office that day is bc he was out of town otherwise I wouldn't have had to have gone to the ER. After 20 weeks I will go straight to labor and delivery for any ER visits. Hopefully it's better there otherwise if my dr won't be open to a different hospital ill switch OB to avoid the problem sadly.
  • I think you need a medal for not punching anyone! How rude :-(
  • I'm getting angry just reading this. How dare she walk into the room and be so presumptuous without even giving you an opportunity to say why you are there. F her. I hope she loses her job. She is clearly incompetent and her lack of social skills with present a serious issue for her treatment of patients.
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  • I've worked with nurses like this, and it's horrible.  I've got a really nasty temper when it comes to patient advocacy and my mouth has gotten me in trouble before for chewing coworkers for that exact same high horse behavior.  I wish you would have asked her name, it would have helped for a swifter retribution when you reported it, but luckily it's carefully documented and easy to find out which nurses took care of which patients, so here's hoping your OB lets her have it good!
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    You reacted muchhhhh better than I would have. Specially because you weren't feeling good. Ahhhh! Gotta love people that hate their jobs. Geez! I hope your doctor lets them at the ER have it! And I hope you're starting to feel better.
  • ash413 said:

    I HIGHLY doubt this happened, as your suggesting.
    Anyone who has ever worked in an ER, would recognize this for the BS it is.
    Your story does not add up, and I am going to guess this "nurse" was actually a midlevel provider. Not to mention a specialist and a medical director are not going to take time out of their day to discuss a nurse. Do you realize how many complaints they get?
    You don't have to feel guilty, no one is going to lose their job.

    Huh??? Seriously? So the op just randomly decided to make up a fake story (and a long one I might add) just because? I highly doubt it....

  • I'm surprised they didn't admit you. I had something similar happen with my first pregnancy and I was admitted and sent to the OB ward. Bladder, kidney infections and UTI can send you into labor. I'm not trying to scare you but please take care and if your fever comes back go straight to the ER.
  • ash413 said:

    I HIGHLY doubt this happened, as your suggesting.
    Anyone who has ever worked in an ER, would recognize this for the BS it is.
    Your story does not add up, and I am going to guess this "nurse" was actually a midlevel provider. Not to mention a specialist and a medical director are not going to take time out of their day to discuss a nurse. Do you realize how many complaints they get?
    You don't have to feel guilty, no one is going to lose their job.

    It's okay not everyone had a shitty experience so it's hard for them to believe things simply bc it never happened to them, feel lucky your special.
    The nurse wasn't shitty until after the RN came in. I complained about the RN to my OB, HE was the one who said HE was going to the people at the hospital. But you know I just spend hours of my day making shit up for entertainment I hope you enjoyed my "story".

    Girl, you need to live in a bubble for the next few months with all the crap you go through.

    Never mind this story, I'm more concerned about your daughter. Is she still being harassed by your boyfriends family?

    I feel like I have lived in a bubble lately! And no I nipped that in the butt asap. We spend more time at my grandmother's than we do with them and they are starting to understand why now that we are gone more often. She has "grandma time" on my gmas days off so I stay with them for those couple days then she will come stay here for a day and I'll go back to my gmas with her after that one night.
    Other than that, dr appointments, and food shopping I don't leave the yard much and avoid Internet for the most part just check in every now and then. Tends to avoid the excess drama, but the day I come back I get a sour apple. Go figure
  • I will say that as a former manager that no matter what someone on my team did, I would NEVER break my professionalism for any reason with people not on staff and not involved directly in a situation. I had a member of my team do something that was a very serious liability in front of a group of twenty people and the witnesses knew it was. I did not tell anyone outside of him, my boss, and the other employee that witnessed it what happened. No matter what the group said to me, I said nothing more than something along the lines of "I'll handle the alleged situation, I cannot say more than that". I'm talking in non-specifics since I'm sure that giving too many details out I could still wind up in some trouble for talking about it. So at the very least this is a potential HR nightmare if it's all apart of the same hospital although I'd bet money the OB is just trying to appease you.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that a RN shouldn't be making those calls at a reputable place. Not anything against any RNs (you are all remarkable and I can't wait to be in nursing school!) reading this, I've just never heard of this in an ER. If anyone would speak to you in such a way it should have been a nurse practitioner, PA, or a doctor.
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  • I agree with PPs. As an RN who has worked both ER and L&D, your story simply isn't adding up. You are either making stuff up or omitting very important details of this story.
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    ash413 said:

    I HIGHLY doubt this happened, as your suggesting.
    Anyone who has ever worked in an ER, would recognize this for the BS it is.
    Your story does not add up, and I am going to guess this "nurse" was actually a midlevel provider. Not to mention a specialist and a medical director are not going to take time out of their day to discuss a nurse. Do you realize how many complaints they get?
    You don't have to feel guilty, no one is going to lose their job.

    It's okay not everyone had a shitty experience so it's hard for them to believe things simply bc it never happened to them, feel lucky your special.
    The nurse wasn't shitty until after the RN came in. I complained about the RN to my OB, HE was the one who said HE was going to the people at the hospital. But you know I just spend hours of my day making shit up for entertainment I hope you enjoyed my "story".

    Girl, you need to live in a bubble for the next few months with all the crap you go through.

    Never mind this story, I'm more concerned about your daughter. Is she still being harassed by your boyfriends family?

    I feel like I have lived in a bubble lately! And no I nipped that in the butt asap. We spend more time at my grandmother's than we do with them and they are starting to understand why now that we are gone more often. She has "grandma time" on my gmas days off so I stay with them for those couple days then she will come stay here for a day and I'll go back to my gmas with her after that one night.
    Other than that, dr appointments, and food shopping I don't leave the yard much and avoid Internet for the most part just check in every now and then. Tends to avoid the excess drama, but the day I come back I get a sour apple. Go figure



    You do realize nurse and RN are synonyms right?
    I'm not saying I don't believe your story because I have never had a bad experience, I don't believe it because I have enough Healthcare experience to know that is not how it works. Your story has very big holes.
            
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  • edited June 2015
    ash413 said:

    ash413 said:

    I HIGHLY doubt this happened, as your suggesting.
    Anyone who has ever worked in an ER, would recognize this for the BS it is.
    Your story does not add up, and I am going to guess this "nurse" was actually a midlevel provider. Not to mention a specialist and a medical director are not going to take time out of their day to discuss a nurse. Do you realize how many complaints they get?
    You don't have to feel guilty, no one is going to lose their job.

    It's okay not everyone had a shitty experience so it's hard for them to believe things simply bc it never happened to them, feel lucky your special.
    The nurse wasn't shitty until after the RN came in. I complained about the RN to my OB, HE was the one who said HE was going to the people at the hospital. But you know I just spend hours of my day making shit up for entertainment I hope you enjoyed my "story".

    Girl, you need to live in a bubble for the next few months with all the crap you go through.

    Never mind this story, I'm more concerned about your daughter. Is she still being harassed by your boyfriends family?

    I feel like I have lived in a bubble lately! And no I nipped that in the butt asap. We spend more time at my grandmother's than we do with them and they are starting to understand why now that we are gone more often. She has "grandma time" on my gmas days off so I stay with them for those couple days then she will come stay here for a day and I'll go back to my gmas with her after that one night.
    Other than that, dr appointments, and food shopping I don't leave the yard much and avoid Internet for the most part just check in every now and then. Tends to avoid the excess drama, but the day I come back I get a sour apple. Go figure



    You do realize nurse and RN are synonyms right?
    I'm not saying I don't believe your story because I have never had a bad experience, I don't believe it because I have enough Healthcare experience to know that is not how it works. Your story has very big holes.
    This is what I was thinking the entire time I was reading... You can't call yourself a nurse unless you are an RN (registered nurse).

    ETA: I don't understand what your title has to do with your story..?
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  • RaisingJulianRaisingJulian member
    edited June 2015
    I don't know how u reacted so nicely. I understand ur family was in the room but I probably wouldn't have cared. I'm sure I would have been asked her, her name then said "well *insert name* GET THE F' OUT!" I wouldn't have let anyone who was rude to me touch me. I had an ER experience where I passed out in the shower (my blood pressure dropped) & the guy(not sure his status) accused my fiancé of physically abusing me because of my STRETCH MARKS. Are you stupid? U don't know what stretch marks are/look like? Ur a medical professional! He was examining me for injuries as I fell out of the shower onto the floor. Thanks for making me feel bad for the way my belly looks. Dumb ass. I was speechless. I just said "they're stretch marks" & remained silent the rest of my visit. I was 8 months pregnant at the time with my first. I really hope for u, & other pregnant mothers that may go to that ER, that those people get taken care of!
  • I went to the ER a few weeks ago and had a pretty crappy experience.  They didn't know what to do with me and eventually decided to send me to the labor and delivery ward.  When I got up there, I was wheeled into a room with what I think was a triage nurse possibly doctor (not sure, but she was the first stop for all mothers being admitted from the ER but all she had the ability to do in her area was hook you up to the monitors and take a history.)  I was only 16 weeks at the time and she started ranting at me about how there was nothing she could do for me even if I was having a miscarriage and asked me repeatedly why I was even sent to her. 
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  • I know some CNA's who refer to themselves as nurses maybe that was it.  I had a similar experience happen when I broke my foot - the nurse practitioner at patient first told me to go straight to the hospital and not even eat because I would need to go to the OR for them to clean out the foot (she thought it was an open fracture).  Then when I got to the ER, the nurse asked me when I came in for a "scratch".  Hello, nobody wants to pay the $100 copay just to enter the ER!  It's sad that some people make you feel dumb when you definitely did the right thing by going in!
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