September 2015 Moms

purtusis shot

Got purtusis shot 8 days ago. My arm is barely usable, pain is so bad when trying too sleep :( anyone have this? Or know of way to help with the pain Tylenol don't touch the pain.. thanks for any help

Re: purtusis shot

  • It should go away in a couple of days. I remember the flu shot hurting worse than pertussis.
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  • I know when they give the tetanus shot, they usually tell you to try to use that arm as much as possible so it doesn't get stiff and sore. Maybe try fighting through the pain and do some arm stretches or movements to get it loosened up? Good luck!
  • Heat pack
  • baaah, i get this in 2 weeks and i am not looking forward to it. i hope you feel better!

  • I have to get this soon too! :-/
  • I just got mine today! I absolutely hate shots and needles (I also had the glucose test so had to get my blood drawn too...talk about worst appointment ever lol). It really didn't hurt that bad when they actually did it but my arm is slightly sore now. I'm still using it as I normally would though so it doesn't get any worse. The stiffness makes sense as tetanus causes the muscles to seize. Try a heat pack to loosen the muscle then stretch.
  • Rub it, heat and move
  • I got mine yesterday! It still stinks when I lay on it! It hurt almost as bad as the cortisone shot I got in my shoulder last year
  • lnds30lnds30 member
    As long as pain is just in the muscle and not attributed to an allergic reaction ice is a good option. Swelling responds the most ideal to ice for 20 minutes every 2 hours.

    I have treated a few patients who had severe allergic reactions to Tdap. The signs and symptoms are skin redness, increased heat and swelling. The redness usually spreads well above and below injection site. Hopefully none of us experience this!
  • I'm unfortunately one of the minority of people is IS allergic to the pertussis vaccine (although for me, it results in a drastic drop in blood pressure and loss of consciousness). Makes me leery about my son receiving it, considering. It'll certainly be a discussion I have with the pediatrician before administration.
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  • Hey quick question - if you already had the tdap shot pre-pregnancy, can you turn it down during pregnancy? I read the drug manufacturers pamphlet and it said only to administer to pregnant women when absolutely necessary and when I looked into it further no research has been done on its affects on pregnant women. Just mice.
  • jht4jht4 member
    It is recommended that all pregnant women get the tdap as some immunity will be passed to baby. I think it is supposed to be given in the beginning of the third trimester to give baby time to develop some protection. Pertussis can be serious in kids but deadly in infants.

    https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/pregnant/mom/get-vaccinated.html
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  • Peony1982Peony1982 member
    edited June 2015
    allstagg said:
    Hey quick question - if you already had the tdap shot pre-pregnancy, can you turn it down during pregnancy? I read the drug manufacturers pamphlet and it said only to administer to pregnant women when absolutely necessary and when I looked into it further no research has been done on its affects on pregnant women. Just mice.

    I mean, you CAN turn it down, but I see no reason why you wouldn't want to pass on some immunity to cover baby in the first months. Especially with whooping cough making such a comeback. 

     You won't find any drugs that have formal studies on effects on pregnant women, because no pharma company would take the risk of conducting a true medical study on pregnant women 
  • Took two children motrin doses overnight lastnight cause pain was unbeatable will i be ok
  • @allstagg my doctor said it's given a few months before birth because the antibodies take about a month to cross into the placenta or something. But my sister said they didn't give it to her until after she had given birth, but I'm assuming the antibodies were then passed through her breast milk. My doc also said that if I get pregnant right after I give birth they'll do the pertussis shot again even though I won't specifically need it, but the new baby would. I thought that was interesting because I had never thought about that. I'm also having my boyfriend get the shot because they recommended anyone who will be closely caring for the baby get it. Especially if they haven't within the last 5-10 years. I absolutely hate shots but it really wasn't that bad.
  • My husband is 45. He actually had whooping cough. I'm wondering if it's a shot hell have to get?
  • @Peony1982 yes that is exactly my concern, the fact that there isn't a formal study on pregnant women. That coupled with the statement on GSKs vaccine insert that explicitly states that the vaccine should not be administered to pregnant women unless it is necessary and the benefits outweigh risks.

    @smiversen I understand the concept of passive artificial immunity but it doesn't make sense to me why I would need the shot AGAIN if I already had it and I am protected by it and have antibodies for it that are being passed to baby anyways. So confusing. I really don't like taking drugs during pregnancy.
  • Yiggle09 said:

    My husband is 45. He actually had whooping cough. I'm wondering if it's a shot hell have to get?

    My Dr recommends everyone who will be spending time with the baby in the first couple months have it.
  • Peony1982Peony1982 member
    edited June 2015
    allstagg said:
    @Peony1982 yes that is exactly my concern, the fact that there isn't a formal study on pregnant women. That coupled with the statement on GSKs vaccine insert that explicitly states that the vaccine should not be administered to pregnant women unless it is necessary and the benefits outweigh risks. @smiversen I understand the concept of passive artificial immunity but it doesn't make sense to me why I would need the shot AGAIN if I already had it and I am protected by it and have antibodies for it that are being passed to baby anyways. So confusing. I really don't like taking drugs during pregnancy.

    Because the protection of the vaccine wanes with time. It is most effectively passed to fetus if vaccine is given during late pregnancy.  https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20121108acipreqs.html

    The pharma companies are just trying to cover their asses with the disclaimer. I'd love to see ANY drug insert that doesn't have similar language about distribution to pregnant woman.  Also, the benefits DO outweighs the risks, sooooo that would fall under that objection. For the record,you probably won't find any formal studies on Tylenol or tums either, and they are WIDELY regarded as safe. I just don't see why you would go against pretty widespread and clear recommendations based on your OWN unterpretations.  Unless you are an MD or biochemist. 
  • I got the shot yesterday and blood drawn for gd testing... After having driven 2 hours home and then going straight to sleep my arm feels like it weighs 100 lbs and is extremely sore.
  • edited June 2015
    lnds30 said:

    As long as pain is just in the muscle and not attributed to an allergic reaction ice is a good option. Swelling responds the most ideal to ice for 20 minutes every 2 hours.

    I have treated a few patients who had severe allergic reactions to Tdap. The signs and symptoms are skin redness, increased heat and swelling. The redness usually spreads well above and below injection site. Hopefully none of us experience this!

    I totally experienced this and it sucked. It was also a clear shift from severe response to the shot to allergic reaction it. I also literally couldn't move my shoulder for for days, it wasn't just that it hurt to move it. Going from a laying position to sitting would make me literally cry from the pain and i have a pretty high tolerance!

    I had strong flu like symptoms for two days after the shot as well as extreme pain not just in my arm but in all of my joints and then my arm continued swelling and turned red in a cuff-like shape around my arm. Super sucky and I definitely taller to my doctors and visited urgent care. It's been almost two weeks and my arm still hurts, but much more mildly now, and its still has a faint red blush.

    I hate being the horror story but I survived, so you know, others probably will too ;-)

    ETA Oh and my baby was moving and grooving like crazy with stretches and hiccups and kicks, so that was the least of my concerns.
  • Wow, I had the TDAP in 2009 after stepping on a rusty nail, but I didn't have nearly the number of side effects as some are reporting here (I'm assuming it was the TDAP anyway, as it was the "tetanus shot"). My arm was probably sore, but that's about it. I haven't received it yet during pregnancy, but I expect I will within the next few weeks. I need to ask my OB about it at my next appointment.
  • Peony1982 said:

    Because the protection of the vaccine wanes with time. It is most effectively passed to fetus if vaccine is given during late pregnancy.  https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20121108acipreqs.html

    The pharma companies are just trying to cover their asses with the disclaimer. I'd love to see ANY drug insert that doesn't have similar language about distribution to pregnant woman.  Also, the benefits DO outweighs the risks, sooooo that would fall under that objection. For the record,you probably won't find any formal studies on Tylenol or tums either, and they are WIDELY regarded as safe. I just don't see why you would go against pretty widespread and clear recommendations based on your OWN unterpretations.  Unless you are an MD or biochemist. 
    yes, protection wanes over time, but someone like me, who was just vaccinated last year, is likely not a candidate for Tdap. artificial passive immunity is only moderately effective. i am also a scientist by trade and work with the CDC and pharma companies and i am very well aware with their testing methodologies which is why is question where doctors and ACOG get their recommendations from. as a scientist, i dont trust anything unless there is verifiable data behind it that is also repeatable. none of this exists for Tdap. and while i dont know if there is any research concluding clinical human studies with acetaminophen and calcium carbonate i can't speak much, but i know they are also listed as class C so i avoid them. bottom line, its a personal choice. i avoid anything, supplement or medication that is not tested on humans, especially during pregnancy. perhaps my exposure to the "businesses" that manufacturer and make said recommendations has made me more skeptical because i know the ins and outs of things but thats just me. i dont trust everything that is published, i need facts.
  • allstagg said:
    Peony1982 said:

    Because the protection of the vaccine wanes with time. It is most effectively passed to fetus if vaccine is given during late pregnancy.  https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20121108acipreqs.html

    The pharma companies are just trying to cover their asses with the disclaimer. I'd love to see ANY drug insert that doesn't have similar language about distribution to pregnant woman.  Also, the benefits DO outweighs the risks, sooooo that would fall under that objection. For the record,you probably won't find any formal studies on Tylenol or tums either, and they are WIDELY regarded as safe. I just don't see why you would go against pretty widespread and clear recommendations based on your OWN unterpretations.  Unless you are an MD or biochemist. 
    yes, protection wanes over time, but someone like me, who was just vaccinated last year, is likely not a candidate for Tdap. artificial passive immunity is only moderately effective. i am also a scientist by trade and work with the CDC and pharma companies and i am very well aware with their testing methodologies which is why is question where doctors and ACOG get their recommendations from. as a scientist, i dont trust anything unless there is verifiable data behind it that is also repeatable. none of this exists for Tdap. and while i dont know if there is any research concluding clinical human studies with acetaminophen and calcium carbonate i can't speak much, but i know they are also listed as class C so i avoid them. bottom line, its a personal choice. i avoid anything, supplement or medication that is not tested on humans, especially during pregnancy. perhaps my exposure to the "businesses" that manufacturer and make said recommendations has made me more skeptical because i know the ins and outs of things but thats just me. i dont trust everything that is published, i need facts.

    If you're such the expert, then why are you asking an Internet board of strangers if you can turn it down?
  • @allstagg OMG i am with you on this. i just had an emotional fit this morning because i was trying my best to understand both sides. I also just got the shot prior to getting pregnant and come from a family of doctors--doctors who do not want me getting the shot again even after I told them that my OB just recommended that I get it. My OB recommends it as CDC has recommended, to administer it for each pregnancy irrespective of immunization history. The reasoning of my OB made sense to me, if its free and harmless (or is it?) why not? My family wants to err on the side of caution because there have been no verifiable data on repeat vaccinations on the tdap. My aunt is a pulmonary pediatrician and does not want me to get it. She said that from birth to 2 mos, my son can get the immunity that he needs from my breastmilk and that she can easily diagnose and treat pertussis if it comes to that. Whew. it was a very emotional morning for me!!!
  • Peony1982 said:
    If you're such the expert, then why are you asking an Internet board of strangers if you can turn it down?
    @peony1982 - I never declared myself to be an expert but rather someone who is in the scientific research industry and i was wondering what other expecting moms were hearing from their doctors because there is a huge disconnect between science and the clinical space. If you aren't an expert, why would you question me for questioning a recommendation that is seemingly contraindicated ...?

    @bcamasosa - I wish in times like this i was still in touch with my immunology professor! CDC makes recommendations in an attempt to protect the general population, not your baby. personally, i dont care about the general public. i care about my baby and if that makes me a bad person, than so be it. i'll do everything in my power not to contaminate the general public with whatever disease that is trending but that is about it. we have a lot of doctors in our family too and all have mixed opinions. spoke to doctor today and he said i dont need to take Tdap unless i want to since i had it recently and i could take it in the hospital immediately after the baby is born. pertussis in our area is very very low so he isn't very worried.
  • I got mine last Monday and it didn't hurt at all when I got the actual shot but the three days after it really hurt! One week later and my arm has a hard spot and is a little black and blue but it no longer hurts me.
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