September 2015 Moms

Pancreatic Cancer/Broken Hubby :(

First of all, I hope this won't upset anyone by being mentioned.. But I suppose I am maybe looking for some sort of assurance with this situation as a whole. & Long post warning!

My husbands mother (65) was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer :( His father is not sharing much details on the DX, such as the stage it was/is, nothing that is very directional in terms of helping their 2 sons (hubby and older brother) to start to grasp the reality of the situation.. :S

They are extremely extreeeeemely close, he is the definition of "mommas boy" so this is very much more hard on him as you could imagine.

She has been in bed for over 2 months, on fentanyl patches, liquid hydromorph, dilaudid in pill form, morphine, a ton of RX anti vomiting etc, steroids.. She hasn't eaten a meal in about 2.5 months.. Never gets out of bed (exact opposite of her prior to this illness) So this is very worrisome for me, as from what I have read/heard this is probably not a good sign. I was told this disease is normally found in the advanced stages. To see someone go from full health and vitality to basically fully bed ridden.. Is terrifying. I am so worried for my hubby that something will happen and he is not very prepared for it.
(Not that you can ever really be prepared, but you know what I mean..)

She started chemo almost 2 weeks ago. (5 FU) She has been losing her bowels and bladder steadily since, has had a brief period of delusion (talking as if my hubby was 14, thought her dead dogs were there with her, talking to walls etc) She is on an at home IV, still living off of minimal liquid meals and is in very rough shape.. Nurses are in the home 3-4 times per week to change her PICC and check in.

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone is more familiar with this disease, or may possibly have some sort of insight at all? I am just so devastated for him and his family. His poor father is 100% sure she will have chemo, it will shrink the cancer, have surgery and that she will be just fine and live forever. I am worried after researching statistics. Apparently only 75% or so of these patients survive a year.

It is so very sad... And I am struggling with this because I am 25 weeks pregnant, have an ever grieving, sad, distraught and fully distracted husband.. And I'm not only concerned about his mental health but I am also concerned that this is going to sort of take away from the birth of his first child. Not to sound selfish at ALL. I just mean that I feel like no matter what happens, he will be somewhere else mentally and not get to enjoy it for what it really is.

I am worried she may not make it until the end of September because of her condition. :(

Sorry everyone for the long post. I hope if this upsets anyone that you understand why I have posted, and accept my apology. I just have no one to explain how I am feeling to, or my concerns. I have few family members around and not many friends near... I also have never ever even heard of pancreatic cancer until now so it's very scary and worrisome.. As you can see.

If anyone has any input at all in terms of what the possibilities are with this, prognosis of disease, any personal experience that wouldn't hurt too much to share? I would appreciate it very much. I have no one to talk to about it.

Thanks.

Re: Pancreatic Cancer/Broken Hubby :(

  • Sounds like you need a hug!! This is rotten and bad timing and awful. I'm so sorry.
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  • @PregNancyClark It has been very difficult, yes.. And the timing couldn't possibly be any worse! Hard to accept that is for sure. Thank you for your post.. Trying to stay positive!
  • It breaks my heart to hear this. I'm so very sorry. I don't have any experience with this particular form of cancer. I wish I was near you so I could give you a big hug. I'll be keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. Life is so unfair sometimes, and it breaks my heart.
  • My heart goes out to you and your family. I'm so sorry your having to deal with this. I lost my dad to cancer at 21, his was liver cancer, so my apologies that I don't have a lot of info regarding pancreatic cancer.

    Life can really throw you some shit when you feel your happiest. It's horrible.

    Your in my thoughts Hun x
  • Make memories while u can my "bonus mom" lost her brother to pancreatic cancer stay positive be there for husband my bonus grandma has had cancer for four years Cancer is no respecter of persons big hugs and prayers keep your stress level down bless your hearts
  • Sweetie I know exactly how your feeling. My Nan died of ovarian cancer 2yrs this October. I don't want to go in to much into detail on here as it's still raw. But you are more than welcome to inbox me & we can talk there.
  • I am so very sorry to hear you are going through this. Would your husband's dad be okay with him going to a doctor's appointment with them so that your husband can gain more factual information about what's going on? If your FIL is being stingy with information, it could be because he's trying not to put more stress on you guys, or it could be because he has a hard time talking about it himself, or it could be because he has a hard time understanding the information himself, which makes it tough to then pass on. Your husband going and hearing firsthand could be helpful and shed more clarity. It is hard to tell from someone's physical condition what stage they are in. I have a close family member battling very advanced cancer right now and you would never guess in a million years by looking at him. So many factors can play into how someone looks on the outside. When I found out about my family member, I sunk myself into research, because it helped me feel like I was being productive and helpful. Feeling helpless is the worst feeling, which is what you're describing since you have so little info. When you're helpless the fear can take over. The days i spent researching were the days i felt best, and shed fewer tears. I wish nothing but the best for you and your family.
  • Hi there, so sorry to hear you are going through this. A number of years ago my mum was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer (pc). We initially thought it was gallstones as her first symptom (other than weight loss and shoulder pain) was severe jaundice. Mums Cancer had started in the top of her pancreas and therefore blocked the bile duct quite early on. At the time of diagnosis her Tumor was 2cm in diameter.
    Mum was a suitable candidate for an op called the whipple. This involved removing part of her pancreas, part of her liver, her bile duct and some intestines. It was a huge op but she was home in just over a fortnight and then started chemo. I can't remember how long she had chemo and radiation but when it finished she appeared 'Cancer free' at her 6 month check up. Unfortunately pc has a huge recurrence rate and it returned. From initial disgnosis my mum lasted 2.5 years. It is a horrible, horrible disease.
    For your DH's mum to have any kind of chance she needs to eat.... A feat almost impossible for a person with pc. Is she on any build up drinks??? Could the doctor prescribe some? Would she be in any way inclined to smoke a certain plant that induces hunger and also reduces pain?
    Check out the pancan website for lots of info and support. Feel free to pm me if you have any queries..... Thinking of you all x
  • I don't have any advice, but can send virtual hugs your way. :( I'm sorry you're dealing with this.
  • Elysia21 said:
    First of all, I hope this won't upset anyone by being mentioned.. But I suppose I am maybe looking for some sort of assurance with this situation as a whole. & Long post warning! My husbands mother (65) was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer :( His father is not sharing much details on the DX, such as the stage it was/is, nothing that is very directional in terms of helping their 2 sons (hubby and older brother) to start to grasp the reality of the situation.. :S They are extremely extreeeeemely close, he is the definition of "mommas boy" so this is very much more hard on him as you could imagine. She has been in bed for over 2 months, on fentanyl patches, liquid hydromorph, dilaudid in pill form, morphine, a ton of RX anti vomiting etc, steroids.. She hasn't eaten a meal in about 2.5 months.. Never gets out of bed (exact opposite of her prior to this illness) So this is very worrisome for me, as from what I have read/heard this is probably not a good sign. I was told this disease is normally found in the advanced stages. To see someone go from full health and vitality to basically fully bed ridden.. Is terrifying. I am so worried for my hubby that something will happen and he is not very prepared for it. (Not that you can ever really be prepared, but you know what I mean..) She started chemo almost 2 weeks ago. (5 FU) She has been losing her bowels and bladder steadily since, has had a brief period of delusion (talking as if my hubby was 14, thought her dead dogs were there with her, talking to walls etc) She is on an at home IV, still living off of minimal liquid meals and is in very rough shape.. Nurses are in the home 3-4 times per week to change her PICC and check in. I guess I'm just wondering if anyone is more familiar with this disease, or may possibly have some sort of insight at all? I am just so devastated for him and his family. His poor father is 100% sure she will have chemo, it will shrink the cancer, have surgery and that she will be just fine and live forever. I am worried after researching statistics. Apparently only 75% or so of these patients survive a year. It is so very sad... And I am struggling with this because I am 25 weeks pregnant, have an ever grieving, sad, distraught and fully distracted husband.. And I'm not only concerned about his mental health but I am also concerned that this is going to sort of take away from the birth of his first child. Not to sound selfish at ALL. I just mean that I feel like no matter what happens, he will be somewhere else mentally and not get to enjoy it for what it really is. I am worried she may not make it until the end of September because of her condition. :( Sorry everyone for the long post. I hope if this upsets anyone that you understand why I have posted, and accept my apology. I just have no one to explain how I am feeling to, or my concerns. I have few family members around and not many friends near... I also have never ever even heard of pancreatic cancer until now so it's very scary and worrisome.. As you can see. If anyone has any input at all in terms of what the possibilities are with this, prognosis of disease, any personal experience that wouldn't hurt too much to share? I would appreciate it very much. I have no one to talk to about it. Thanks.
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    I am very sorry your family is dealing with this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from my recollection, pancreatic cancer is almost always considered stage 4 because it usually goes undetected for long periods due to symptoms mimicking so many other illnesses. I understand how hard this must be for your FIL to deal with, but unfortunately pancreatic cancer is a tough one to treat due to the advanced nature; the prognosis is not usually favorable. My step-grandfather passed away of this and it is very difficult to deal with as a family. I will keep you in my thoughts and hope that YH can cope but still enjoy the birth of your child.
  • I'm so sorry. My husband lost his father 2 months ago, very suddenly. It's a challenge to be both his care taker and reassure him while taking care of you and the baby. Hard, but not impossible. Children have a way of healing the broken hearted. Chin up. Do what you can, as you can. Let him know you need him though, as you are going through a lot. Be what he needs, an ear, a shoulder, a quiet time giver.
  • Thank you all so very kindly for sharing your wishes and personal experiences. I am very very sorry for all the losses you've experienced. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to respond, and shed some unbiased opinions/outlook on my situation. I feel a lot better now having read your posts. I will try to have my hubby go in with them to an appointment that is great advice. I just want him to be on board as much as possible so that it is less of a shock when the time comes.

    As some of you have mentioned, it does seem to be a pretty grim diagnosis. And it is hard to estimate stage given the many variables. I can't help but think it is at least 3, because she is not a surgery candidate and having the cancer on the body/tail, she did not have jaundice whatsoever (yet) so the first indication of this terrible disease was severe pain in the back and digestive issues. I can't help but assume that the cancer would have to be quite large to cause so much pressure and pain.

    I am going to take in every positive comment here, and you are all right. I suppose the baby is here to help everyone in the end, and we do all have our own life circumstances at one point or another.

    Thanks again everyone. I can't possibly repay you all the respect I am feeling. Hope you and your little ones are all well, and feeling wonderful. :)
  • My niece was born not long after my mum passed away from pc. To be honest it was wonderful for the whole family. She brought light after such a dark time.
    With regards to your husband and his grief; as our mum was so ill, we almost grieved with her, while she was still with us. When the time came for her to go, it was almost a welcome release for her and us. She had been through so much.
    Your little ones arrival won't be cloaked in sadness, but rather it will be a reminder of how precious life is. It will be a time of joy for all of your family. Xxx
  • I'm sorry I don't know much about the disease, I just wanted to say it sucks you guys are going through this. I hope your hubby gets some answers about the situation and he has some time with his mom.
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  • I'm so sorry that you're going through this. Cancer is such an ugly disease. My dad was diagnosed with throat cancer when I was 13 and passed away when I was 14 and although we had 11 months to prepare for it, that still didn't make it any easier. We weren't in your exact situation where you'll be bringing a new life into the family while a close family member is fighting for their life but I found out that I was pregnant with a boy three years after my dad passed and we were all so grateful because it was almost like God was giving me a boy to take my dad's place on earth. And the freaky part is, my son was born exactly 3 years after we buried my dad. So even though you're going through this horrible time with your MIL, and your husband might have 100 other things going on in his mind when your baby is born, I can guarantee it will still be a special time and your baby entering the world will help lighten everyone's heavy hearts. Hang in there, momma, you'll get through this bump in the road.
  • Thank you all so much :'( Such beautiful insight, and things I had just not thought of on my own. I am sorry to hear of your losses, again. I can't imagine how devastating it truly is. I will continue to support him and his family and take things as they come.

    Bless you all! <3
  • @Elysia21 I'm sorry for what your family is going through. There has been so much positive advice here, I have nothing else to add except that you will be in my thoughts and I'm hoping for peace and strength for you, your husband, and his family during this difficult time. Your child's birth will be a beautiful blessing regardless of the circumstances, and it may be just the positive ray of hope that you all need. Stay strong mama.
  • I am so sorry. My cousin lost her mom to pancreatic cancer when she was pregnant with her oldest. There is nothing easy about seeing a loved one deteriorate. Every one responds to the disease and treatment differently but I always find it good advice to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I do wish you the best outcome and am sending hugs your way.

    We are now all involved in the Lustgarten Foundation.
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