I find myself continually envious of not only fertiles but recovering infertiles, those women whose ART was successful. I know it's emotiinally destructive but I can't help wonder why this person's FET or fresh IVF was successful and mine aren't.
How are some ways you cope with what seems that everyone around you is pregnant and you're still waiting?
TTC since 3-08
IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP
DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12
It is stinking hard. I try really really hard to think about the fact that their situation has no bearing on mine. I try to think about how blessed I am with what I have now. I try to think that there is a plan that I may not know now or ever but I have to trust it.
I try and I fail on a daily basis. I obsess and get jealous. Don't know if that is much help
I've somehow separated other people's pregnancies from my own infertility. They're like 2 different categories- everyone else, and me. I don't know how that happened. Enough years of trying, I guess. When I do get sad, I allow myself to feel it and I don't apologize for it.
And now, I think I'm starting to rationalize. DS is almost 5. I'm kind of afraid of the baby phase again. And we are starting to decide on "consolation prizes" like vacations and cars. If we can't have another one, we're going to spoil the shit out of ourselves and the one we have. But we had to except that we're probably not going to have any more kids to be able to think that way.
I've been struggling with this a lot lately too and it's been weighing on my heart heavily and making me sad daily. I currently have 15 friends that are pregnant with #2 (and that doesn't even count the 10 other friends that had #2 at some point in 2014) and out of all of these friends only 2 of them have had to deal with IF.
I found myself getting mad instead of glad when a friend would share their wonderful news. Actually one friend who knows about our IF struggles sent me a text with a picture of her son wearing a big brother shirt and then wrote "I thought you could use some good news". This mad me irate and I cried to DH about it and he explained "one day we will get to share news like this and wouldn't you want YOUR friends to be happy for you when that day comes?"
After that statement I had to force myself to change my thinking and my feelings a bit and I started writing it all in my journal. I'm not super religious but I do pray every night and I started to write my prayers in my journal as well which included writing out the names of all of my pregnant friends (this is how I know the # is 15 ) It has helped me tremendously in the past week when I had 3 friends announce to me they're pregnant again. I didn't cry, get mad or even sad. Sure there was a twang in my heart that wished it was me, but I'm still hoping that one day it will be me. And in the meantime my daughter doesn't deserve to have a mommy that is mad or sad all the time so I really try to keep the focus on her and how happy she makes me.
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
Thanks ladies. Right now I am unable to separate my own IF issues from other people's successes. I think I need to stay from my other board 'over there' where I am the only one struggling to conceive #2. Maybe I should just not fight my feelings of jealousy and let them play out, realizing it won't be this way forever.
I am really envious of families who are OAD by choice or who believe that everything is part of God's plan.
TTC since 3-08
IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP
DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12
Hugs @Mofree. I haven't. I am working on it. My BFF said they were talking about trying for their first soon and I had to hold back tears. I would be so happy for her to have a baby, but it still makes me sad that I can't. I get angry when someone asks why we don't have #2 and have started retorting with bitchy responses rather than not saying anything. I am working on it. But to be honest, we haven't seen DH's BFF in 6 months because the girlfriend is pregnant and I don't want to cry in front of her. So ya. No help here.
Kid #1 - 09/03/12
Kid #2 - maybe???
Diagnosed with Severe Ashermans Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube #11 or IVF with scarring still inside? 1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
BFP #4 2/18/14. EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
BFP #5 7/27/14. EDD 4/9/15... m/c @ 5w4d.
IVF #1 Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN.
IVF #2 Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle. Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.
BFP #6 (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15. EDD 11/30/15... CP at 4w2d.
IUI #2: Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN.
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are
overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you."
-lastsliverofhope
and i blog about it. it's very therapeutic. depressing as shit to read, but helps me so much to get it off my chest.
big hugs lady. this shit never gets easier.
All of this. I've been thinking of blogging just to get the words out.
I cry a lot, too. maybe every other day at least.
And I hide in my house a lot.
And I've been putting a lot of thought into being a one-child family because that future is a real possibility now. Beginning the stages of mourning there. Because if that is our path, it will be a long fucking journey.
Huge hugs. This shit really fucking sucks beyond anything that sucks.
The answers make me sad as I was hoping someone knew the cure for IF depression. I wish there was one. I will echo many and say I've done the same. I also got a dog right after the 2nd loss, planned a vacation, learned to crochet (have amassed about 50 skeins of yarn for a thousand projects that I will probably never get done). I tend to zone out of baby and preg related conversations and sit there stoically with my mind elsewhere. I try to avoid but it is impossible to completely avoid, which is what I would much rather do. Hugs to @MoFree.. And everyone else.
I wish I had an answer for you. I haven't been coping very well lately. I cry a lot and I try to not fight my feelings anymore. It sucks so much to feel envious of other people but just feeling envious is better than feeling guilty for being envious you know? I am trying that for now. ((Hugs))
Me: 34 DH: 36
DD#1 04/28/11
TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
Thanks everyone for your wisdom and your honesty. I'm so sorry we're all in this sucky situation but glad that I'm not the only one with the 'why not me' syndrome. Darned if I know why someone on the other place close to my age cycling at the same clinic is now happily pregnant while I am not. I can't help but wondering why that same success has alluded me.
I really need to stay away from there because all it does is reinforce my feeling of failure.
IF, whether primary or secondary, just sucks the lifeblood out of otherwise strong and capable women.
TTC since 3-08
IVF # 1 Dec 2011 BFP
DD born at 31 weeks 6-24-12
@Mofree you are definitely NOT Alone. Everyone's IF struggle and story is different, but at the same time it's all the same. We are all wanting to have that sibling for our children and are all going through heartbreak every cycle that it isn't happening for whatever reason. The plain truth is it isn't fair. There's no rhyme or reason to it. We are all here for no good reason which sucks big ballz, BUT we are all here together and for me I find comfort in THAT. So you are not alone in your feelings...ever! Big BIG HUGS!
PS You keep saying "that other place" and I feel like I should know what you're talking about but I just don't...what is it??
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
Big huge hugs @MoFree. You are DEFINITELY not alone.
I've struggled with these feelings for a while now. What works for me? Drinking. Zoloft. And running. I never was a runner and I picked it up two days after my D&C in August and haven't stopped since. When I first started it was huge for me to prove to myself my body could actually do something good and do something that I set my mind to. It gave me a sense of control over my body because we all know in the world of fertility hard work unfortunately does not mean shit.
I give myself permission to feel however I feel and then try to find something else to focus on. It's hard but I'm trying to get into a habit of saying one thing I'm grateful for in my life when I wake up, mid day, and before I go to bed. Sometimes it helps, sometimes I can't do it. But I don't beat myself up over it if I can't.
And in regards to other groups, I'm not sure which ones, but I stopped going to TTCAL and PgAL and left any FB groups I was in with people with multiple kids. I just am not in a place where I can relate and it always made me feel like crap afterwards. I don't need that in my life.
When my daughter was 2.5 and 90% of the women I had been pregnant with and had met who had children my daughter's age were all pregnant or caring for newborns was a hard time, worse since my daughter would ask when her sister was coming and was obsessed with kissing pregnant bellies.
I found that getting off facebook was the best for me. I didn't have as much an issue with 2nd babies of people I was friends with, but it's all the announcements and updates from people I wasn't good friends with or who were friends of friends that really were hard for me. And 3rd plus children were hard, for completely personal IF reasons I appreciate that most people only seem to have 2 .
I also tried to avoid baby showers if possible. I was always prepared for the expectant mom, but again all the people I didn't know well seeing their pregnant bellies and listening them talk about their pregnancies was hard.
I also tried to just take on my husband's long term approach - I want my daughter to have a sibling and in the long term if they are 5+ years apart in age they are likely to become good adult friends and help each other through life.
TTC #2 since April 2012
Year 1 - nothing
Year 2 - two m/c
Year 3 - unexplained diagnosis & 4 failed IUIs with
Clomid/Letrozole
Year 4 - still unexplained & 3 failed IUIs with
Follistim & Ovidral
When my daughter was 2.5 and 90% of the women I had been pregnant with and had met who had children my daughter's age were all pregnant or caring for newborns was a hard time, worse since my daughter would ask when her sister was coming and was obsessed with kissing pregnant bellies.
I found that getting off facebook was the best for me. I didn't have as much an issue with 2nd babies of people I was friends with, but it's all the announcements and updates from people I wasn't good friends with or who were friends of friends that really were hard for me. And 3rd plus children were hard, for completely personal IF reasons I appreciate that most people only seem to have 2 .
I also tried to avoid baby showers if possible. I was always prepared for the expectant mom, but again all the people I didn't know well seeing their pregnant bellies and listening them talk about their pregnancies was hard.
I also tried to just take on my husband's long term approach - I want my daughter to have a sibling and in the long term if they are 5+ years apart in age they are likely to become good adult friends and help each other through life.
My daughter does this ALL. THE. TIME. Last week I was sitting at the counter in our kitchen and she came over and touched my belly and said "Mommy Baby in your belly?" I told her no then cried. It was heartbreaking.
HUGS to you.
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
I had such a hard year with my twin sister, 2 sister-in-laws, and a close cousin who were all pregnant. I still get a sad pit in my stomach when I hear someone making a pregnancy announcement, but I can say that little by little I'm coming to terms with my situation. Are you seeing a therapist? I started seeing a therapist who specializes in women's infertility and loss and it has been life saving for me. I find that at times even some of my closest friends don't know how to support me.
I started a PhD program, take time to exercise, drink a lot of wine, and try to surround myself with people who I know truly care about me. I block all pg people on FB because I cannot stand to see the complaints of pg people on FB. I still have very horrible days but I can say that there are now some good days between those horrible days and it hasn't always been that way.
IVF #1, Stimmed for 12 days, ER 8/22/14, 9 retrieved, 7M, 7F!! Freeze all due to fluid in uterus.
FET end of October 2014 cancelled due to fluid in uterus due to possible c-scar defect
Surgery scheduled 12/12/14 to fix possible isthmocele
3/26/15 transferred one 8 cell grade 4 embryo and one 6 cell grade 3 embryo = slow rising betas for 2+ weeks = ectopic MTX shot 4/29/15
Repeat c-scar surgery June 2015
2nd and last IVF cycle August 2015, stimmed for 12 days, 2 egg retrieved, both mature and both fertilized. Transferred both 8-cell embryos on Day 3, beta 9/5/15 = BFFN
This is a tough situation to be in and one so many of us understand. Everyone else's pregnancy announcements create a pang in my heart. I get through it by working hard to make sure my longing and infertility struggles don't transform into bitterness. I allow myself to feel the envy or sadness or sense of unfairness or whatever comes at me and let it pass through me, which actually helps me let it go as well.
Me: 35 DOR - AMH 1.1 FSH 5.6
DH: 39
09/01/10 - First pregnancy - my sweet son was born
04/25/14 - Miscarriage at 9 weeks - Turner Syndrome
08/01/14 - Miscarriage at 8 weeks - Trisomy 9
October 2014 - Unsuccessful IUI
November 2014 - IUI month skipped due to cyst
December 2014 - Unsuccessful IUI
January/February 2015 - Failed IVF (standard long protocol) - 7 eggs, 6 mature, 4 fertilized (ICSI), 0 made it to blast, 0 for testing
March/April 2015 - Microflare IVF protocol with HGH - 6 eggs, 6 mature, 5 fertilized (ICSI), 2 blasts for biopsy!
May/June 2015 - Microflare IVF protocol with HGH - 9 eggs, 6 mature, 5 fertilized (ICSI), 3 blasts for biopsy!
06/18/15 - Two healthy embies based on PGS testing by Natera!
June/July 2015 - FET cycle with estradiol & PIO shots, a Neupogen treatment, and accupuncture
I don't have any advice, but I am right there with you. I feel like a horrible person for not being happy for them, but I can't even fake the warm and fuzzies these days. We found out one of our good friends is expecting, during the 2WW after our IUI, and it was torture to find out we weren't pregnant. I just try to tell myself that I wouldn't wish this on anyone, so I hope they have a healthy 9mos.
When my daughter was 2.5 and 90% of the women I had been pregnant with and had met who had children my daughter's age were all pregnant or caring for newborns was a hard time, worse since my daughter would ask when her sister was coming and was obsessed with kissing pregnant bellies.
I found that getting off facebook was the best for me. I didn't have as much an issue with 2nd babies of people I was friends with, but it's all the announcements and updates from people I wasn't good friends with or who were friends of friends that really were hard for me. And 3rd plus children were hard, for completely personal IF reasons I appreciate that most people only seem to have 2 .
I also tried to avoid baby showers if possible. I was always prepared for the expectant mom, but again all the people I didn't know well seeing their pregnant bellies and listening them talk about their pregnancies was hard.
I also tried to just take on my husband's long term approach - I want my daughter to have a sibling and in the long term if they are 5+ years apart in age they are likely to become good adult friends and help each other through life.
This is my life too. My sister is having a baby girl and we were shopping with our daughters. She decided to have her daughter pick out a few outfits for her new sister. My daughter immediately had to have something for "her sister". She is very insistent that she is getting a baby sister and tells just about everyone. I'm taking it as a sign. So I feel hopeful rather than sad everything she says something about "her sister".
DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010
TTC #2 since 6/2010 10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. Wishing, hoping, waiting.
I'm kind of afraid of the baby phase again. And we are starting to decide on "consolation prizes" like vacations and cars. If we can't have another one, we're going to spoil the shit out of ourselves and the one we have. But we had to except that we're probably not going to have any more kids to be able to think that way.
Definitely all of this. Plus, just trying to limit my contact with pregnancies/babies/etc. I definitely agree with you and with @ellebelle2384 that staying away from your other board (whichever one it was) is a good idea if it causes you pain. I'm much happier after a few weeks away from The Bump, and will definitely limit where I spend my time here this time around. Big hugs to you.
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Me: 41, DH: 45 DD, 6/15/2013 TTC #2 beginning January 2014 AMH 1.05; FSH range 7-11
This is my life too. My sister is having a baby girl and we were shopping with our daughters. She decided to have her daughter pick out a few outfits for her new sister. My daughter immediately had to have something for "her sister". She is very insistent that she is getting a baby sister and tells just about everyone. I'm taking it as a sign. So I feel hopeful rather than sad everything she says something about "her sister".
Every time my daughter's imaginative play places siblings at (randomly assigned) ages that are 5+ I try to take it as a good sign that her and her sibling will be that many years apart. I hope both our daughters are sending us lots of good signs and karma!!
TTC #2 since April 2012
Year 1 - nothing
Year 2 - two m/c
Year 3 - unexplained diagnosis & 4 failed IUIs with
Clomid/Letrozole
Year 4 - still unexplained & 3 failed IUIs with
Follistim & Ovidral
I'm really sorry for what you are going through. I felt much the same way after about our 3rd failed cycle with TTC # 2. By the 6th failed cycle (you read that right), I am finally at piece and likely OK with ending our journey and becoming OAD NBC. For me, I took knowing I did everything possible to try to make this work, but it just wasn't in the cards. Immune treatments, consults with 3 different REs and a reproductive immunologist, and switching to a large well known clinic for our (likely) final cycle. I've transferred a total of 14 near perfect blasts and only 1 has stuck. Whenever I start feeling jealous of ladies who seem to have it easy, I just remind myself it could have been worse. I have one beautiful daughter due to ART and am so very thankful for her.
Best wishes to you.
DOR and AMA
2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
Follow up testing in September all clear;
Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
12/12- Officially an OB patient!
Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN
Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)
Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids
Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN
I drink when I can, usually between failed cycles, and I let myself cry when I need to. I find that allowing myself those feelings actually helps me cope better with them in the long run.
Re: How do you cope?
And now, I think I'm starting to rationalize. DS is almost 5. I'm kind of afraid of the baby phase again. And we are starting to decide on "consolation prizes" like vacations and cars. If we can't have another one, we're going to spoil the shit out of ourselves and the one we have. But we had to except that we're probably not going to have any more kids to be able to think that way.
Spontaneous pregnancy #1
DD1 July 31, 2011
Trying for #2 since Oct 11
Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!!
I've been struggling with this a lot lately too and it's been weighing on my heart heavily and making me sad daily. I currently have 15 friends that are pregnant with #2 (and that doesn't even count the 10 other friends that had #2 at some point in 2014) and out of all of these friends only 2 of them have had to deal with IF.
I found myself getting mad instead of glad when a friend would share their wonderful news. Actually one friend who knows about our IF struggles sent me a text with a picture of her son wearing a big brother shirt and then wrote "I thought you could use some good news". This mad me irate and I cried to DH about it and he explained "one day we will get to share news like this and wouldn't you want YOUR friends to be happy for you when that day comes?"
After that statement I had to force myself to change my thinking and my feelings a bit and I started writing it all in my journal. I'm not super religious but I do pray every night and I started to write my prayers in my journal as well which included writing out the names of all of my pregnant friends (this is how I know the # is 15 ) It has helped me tremendously in the past week when I had 3 friends announce to me they're pregnant again. I didn't cry, get mad or even sad. Sure there was a twang in my heart that wished it was me, but I'm still hoping that one day it will be me. And in the meantime my daughter doesn't deserve to have a mommy that is mad or sad all the time so I really try to keep the focus on her and how happy she makes me.
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
July 15-Check to see if Ute is all healed
IUI #1 8/3/15...BFN
IUI #2 9/5/15...BFP on 9/17/15
Beta #1-344
Beta #2-809
Beta #3 8,390
1st u/s 8/8/15 1 bean HB 135 @ 6w5d
I am really envious of families who are OAD by choice or who believe that everything is part of God's plan.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
July 15-Check to see if Ute is all healed
IUI #1 8/3/15...BFN
IUI #2 9/5/15...BFP on 9/17/15
Beta #1-344
Beta #2-809
Beta #3 8,390
1st u/s 8/8/15 1 bean HB 135 @ 6w5d
Kid #1 - 09/03/12
Hysteroscopy #10 - scar tissue grew back reblocking my right tube
#11 or IVF with scarring still inside?
1 lone embryo from September 2016 retreival, dx with Trisomy 16, starting fresh
BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).
the universe can fuck off.
"You are overly paranoid and delusional that every one is out to get you." -lastsliverofhope
@Mofree. I feel exactly the same way.
I wish I knew the answer as I do not think I am coping well at all either.
I throw myself into work.
And dream about the seemingly impossible what if's.
"Try" to be happy for others.
It seems like everyone on the boards is having continual success and it just hurts.
Big Hugs.
I will echo many and say I've done the same. I also got a dog right after the 2nd loss, planned a vacation, learned to crochet (have amassed about 50 skeins of yarn for a thousand projects that I will probably never get done).
I tend to zone out of baby and preg related conversations and sit there stoically with my mind elsewhere. I try to avoid but it is impossible to completely avoid, which is what I would much rather do.
Hugs to @MoFree.. And everyone else.
Two years, two losses and three IUIs...
We are having TRIPLETS!
EDD 1/26/16
GGB born November 2015!
I really need to stay away from there because all it does is reinforce my feeling of failure.
IF, whether primary or secondary, just sucks the lifeblood out of otherwise strong and capable women.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
@Mofree you are definitely NOT Alone. Everyone's IF struggle and story is different, but at the same time it's all the same. We are all wanting to have that sibling for our children and are all going through heartbreak every cycle that it isn't happening for whatever reason. The plain truth is it isn't fair. There's no rhyme or reason to it. We are all here for no good reason which sucks big ballz, BUT we are all here together and for me I find comfort in THAT. So you are not alone in your feelings...ever! Big BIG HUGS!
PS You keep saying "that other place" and I feel like I should know what you're talking about but I just don't...what is it??
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
July 15-Check to see if Ute is all healed
IUI #1 8/3/15...BFN
IUI #2 9/5/15...BFP on 9/17/15
Beta #1-344
Beta #2-809
Beta #3 8,390
1st u/s 8/8/15 1 bean HB 135 @ 6w5d
I've struggled with these feelings for a while now. What works for me? Drinking. Zoloft. And running. I never was a runner and I picked it up two days after my D&C in August and haven't stopped since. When I first started it was huge for me to prove to myself my body could actually do something good and do something that I set my mind to. It gave me a sense of control over my body because we all know in the world of fertility hard work unfortunately does not mean shit.
I give myself permission to feel however I feel and then try to find something else to focus on. It's hard but I'm trying to get into a habit of saying one thing I'm grateful for in my life when I wake up, mid day, and before I go to bed. Sometimes it helps, sometimes I can't do it. But I don't beat myself up over it if I can't.
And in regards to other groups, I'm not sure which ones, but I stopped going to TTCAL and PgAL and left any FB groups I was in with people with multiple kids. I just am not in a place where I can relate and it always made me feel like crap afterwards. I don't need that in my life.
So anyway, big huge hugs. You're not alone.
Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
When my daughter was 2.5 and 90% of the women I had been pregnant with and had met who had children my daughter's age were all pregnant or caring for newborns was a hard time, worse since my daughter would ask when her sister was coming and was obsessed with kissing pregnant bellies.
I found that getting off facebook was the best for me. I didn't have as much an issue with 2nd babies of people I was friends with, but it's all the announcements and updates from people I wasn't good friends with or who were friends of friends that really were hard for me. And 3rd plus children were hard, for completely personal IF reasons I appreciate that most people only seem to have 2 .
I also tried to avoid baby showers if possible. I was always prepared for the expectant mom, but again all the people I didn't know well seeing their pregnant bellies and listening them talk about their pregnancies was hard.
I also tried to just take on my husband's long term approach - I want my daughter to have a sibling and in the long term if they are 5+ years apart in age they are likely to become good adult friends and help each other through life.
TTC #2 since April 2012
Year 1 - nothing
Year 2 - two m/c
Year 3 - unexplained diagnosis & 4 failed IUIs with Clomid/Letrozole
Year 4 - still unexplained & 3 failed IUIs with Follistim & Ovidral
Year 5 - trying on our own
My daughter does this ALL. THE. TIME. Last week I was sitting at the counter in our kitchen and she came over and touched my belly and said "Mommy Baby in your belly?" I told her no then cried. It was heartbreaking.
HUGS to you.
ME: 35 DH: 39
Married July 2011
DD Born 8/12
TTC #2 since 11/13
ME: Submucosal Fibroid Surgery Date APRIL 14th 2015 -Left Tube is blocked by Fibroid~Surgeon removed 26 Fibroids from my Ute and Unblocked my Tube
DH:Azoospermia...Thank God we have 12 vials of frozen swimmers
July 15-Check to see if Ute is all healed
IUI #1 8/3/15...BFN
IUI #2 9/5/15...BFP on 9/17/15
Beta #1-344
Beta #2-809
Beta #3 8,390
1st u/s 8/8/15 1 bean HB 135 @ 6w5d
TTC #3 since June 2013
BFP #1 7/21/2013--EDD 3/30/14--D&C 9/24/13
BFP #2 1/28/14--MC 2/7/14
IUI #1 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
IUI #2 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
IUI #3 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
This is a tough situation to be in and one so many of us understand. Everyone else's pregnancy announcements create a pang in my heart. I get through it by working hard to make sure my longing and infertility struggles don't transform into bitterness. I allow myself to feel the envy or sadness or sense of unfairness or whatever comes at me and let it pass through me, which actually helps me let it go as well.
Me: 35 DOR - AMH 1.1 FSH 5.6
DH: 39
09/01/10 - First pregnancy - my sweet son was born
04/25/14 - Miscarriage at 9 weeks - Turner Syndrome
08/01/14 - Miscarriage at 8 weeks - Trisomy 9
October 2014 - Unsuccessful IUI
November 2014 - IUI month skipped due to cyst
December 2014 - Unsuccessful IUI
January/February 2015 - Failed IVF (standard long protocol) - 7 eggs, 6 mature, 4 fertilized (ICSI), 0 made it to blast, 0 for testing
March/April 2015 - Microflare IVF protocol with HGH - 6 eggs, 6 mature, 5 fertilized (ICSI), 2 blasts for biopsy!
May/June 2015 - Microflare IVF protocol with HGH - 9 eggs, 6 mature, 5 fertilized (ICSI), 3 blasts for biopsy!
06/18/15 - Two healthy embies based on PGS testing by Natera!
June/July 2015 - FET cycle with estradiol & PIO shots, a Neupogen treatment, and accupuncture
07/08/2015 - Transferred one lovely embie
07/17/2015 - Beta #1 136
07/20/2015 - Beta #2 529 -- BFP!!!
This is my life too. My sister is having a baby girl and we were shopping with our daughters. She decided to have her daughter pick out a few outfits for her new sister. My daughter immediately had to have something for "her sister". She is very insistent that she is getting a baby sister and tells just about everyone. I'm taking it as a sign. So I feel hopeful rather than sad everything she says something about "her sister".
TTC #2 since 6/2010
10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013.
DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair.
Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies.
Wishing, hoping, waiting.
Me: 41, DH: 45
DD, 6/15/2013
TTC #2 beginning January 2014
AMH 1.05; FSH range 7-11
July 2014: IUI #1. Follistim + Pregnyl. 2 follicles--BFN
September 2014: IUI #2. Follistim + Pregnyl + Ganirelix + Crinone. 4(?) follicles--BFN
October 2014: IUI #3. More Follistim + More Ganirelix + Pregnyl + Crinone. 4 follicles--BFP! Beta #1=10 Beta #2=33 Beta #3=97 Beta #4=158. M/C 11/1/14
December 2014: IVF #1. Microdose Lupron protocol. 9R, 9M, 9F. 3 5-day blasts transferred 12/15. BFFN.
August 2015: IVF #3. 14R, 13M, 11F. Froze 5 blasts for CCS testing. 3 normals. FET planned for 10/2015.
My Ovulation Chart
TTC #2 since April 2012
Year 1 - nothing
Year 2 - two m/c
Year 3 - unexplained diagnosis & 4 failed IUIs with Clomid/Letrozole
Year 4 - still unexplained & 3 failed IUIs with Follistim & Ovidral
Year 5 - trying on our own
Best wishes to you.
DOR and AMA
2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
Follow up testing in September all clear;
Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
12/12- Officially an OB patient!
Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN
Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)
Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids
Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN
Likely OAD- NBC