June 2015 Moms

Whooping cough injection during pregnancy

Hi all, I'm 29 weeks 5 days and recently been to see my midwife who suggested I get the whooping cough injection now to protect baby for when he is born - is this really necessary as all baby's get the whooping cough along with their MMR injections soon after birth? Feeling confused any thoughts welcome ☺️

Re: Whooping cough injection during pregnancy

  • gemkwgemkw member
    Yes the immunity you get from it protects your baby until it is old enough to get it. Whooping cough can be very serious and even fatal for your baby so it is definitely necessary. I'm getting mine next week (28 weeks)
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  • gemkwgemkw member
    Also you can read more about it here (these are the UK recommendations so may be a bit different)
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/whooping-cough-vaccination-pregnant.aspx
  • Cdc recommendations are attached. They do recommend you get the vaccine during pregnancy to give your baby immunity during the first months of life. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/pertussis/tdap-pregnancy-hcp.htm
  • They do NOT get it "soon after birth". The recommended time is 2 months. And the MMR isn't until 12 months. 2 months is an awfully long time especially with visitors, where the whooping cough can seem like a cold to them but can be fatal to infants.

    Anyone who is spending time with my child will need to have had a tdap booster or it's a no-go.
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  • This guideline has very recently changed.... Just a few years ago doctors would NOT give me this injection until after my son was born... So it's not a simple "no brainer" as far as vaccines go.
  • ElRuby said:

    This guideline has very recently changed.... Just a few years ago doctors would NOT give me this injection until after my son was born... So it's not a simple "no brainer" as far as vaccines go.

    With my sons I was given the vaccine after delivery...I wonder why it changed?
  • Where I live a baby has jut died (32 days old) from whooping cough. As per the case in the UK when they had a mass outbreak and increased infant deaths they rolled out 3rd trimester vaccines which decreased the deaths by 90%.

    Our baby is going to be a winter baby, I'm having my whooping cough vaccine on Wednesday.
  • I was given the whooping cough vaccine after I gave birth. I had a terrible reaction to it, developing flu like symptoms. Fever and chills, body aches and feeling super run down. It passed after two days, but it was hell. Not saying you would have the same reaction, but just something to be aware of. I wasn't given any warning, so I was kinda freaked out. I was breast feeding so I was passing my antibodies on to my son. If you're not planning on BF then I guess you may consider doing it now.
  • I received the vaccine last week (I hadn't had one since 2007 and CDC recommends with each pregnancy). No ill reaction but my arm was really REALLY sore for almost a week. Just something to think about when considering now vs after delivery and holding a baby.
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  • Is it better to get it in the 3rd trimester? Later?

    My Boys just had their TDap booster but DH and I need to get ours (had it in 2010).
  • Is it better to get it in the 3rd trimester? Later?

    My Boys just had their TDap booster but DH and I need to get ours (had it in 2010).

    My Dr. said to either get in the third trimester or in the hospital after birth. I will probably get it in the hospital after she is born like I did with my son.
  • Got mine at 29 weeks. Hurts like hell but it helps to give my baby immunities so worth it. And they wont get it for at least 2 to 3 months. Hubby is gonna have it too.
  • ElRuby said:

    This guideline has very recently changed.... Just a few years ago doctors would NOT give me this injection until after my son was born... So it's not a simple "no brainer" as far as vaccines go.

    With my sons I was given the vaccine after delivery...I wonder why it changed?
    This article provides some explanation around the change https://www.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Obstetric-Practice/Update-on-Immunization-and-Pregnancy-Tetanus-Diphtheria-and-Pertussis-Vaccination
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  • Most definitely. ..go get it. It's recommended that you get it between 26 and 30 weeks so that some of the immunity will pass to your baby. Pertussis is not something to mess with. Baby can die from it. Also, anyone who's going to be around the baby should get the Tdap vaccine too...it's the tetanus booster, so people should get it anyway...protects from getting poked by rusty stuff, etc.
    Just remember, vaccines aren't bad.
  • Several cases confirmed this year in Nebraska and some were at my hospital. Yes very important that you get it.
  • Thank you all for your replies, it's helped in making the decision to get the vaccination
  • I was around a family that ended up getting whooping cough recently and then got my TDAP this week at 29 weeks. After personally knowing a family that had it, I'm glad I got it. They were showing no symptoms one day and then were diagnosed without even having that bad of a cough. It is becoming more widespread as more people skip vaccinations.
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  • A recent news report said that a local city is having an outbreak...will be getting it soon!
  • Got mine yesterday. :) check that off the to do list before baby comes. Hubs got his in July so it won't even be a year yet. We are set at our house. All kids current on immunizations. As for everyone else we will have a sign on our door to not enter unless they have the vaccination. :)
  • Do people really plan to ask people about these vaccinations? I understand care-givers but what about all the people you need to interact with just to live? I mean I will still need to take my son to all his activities and preschool even though I will have a baby and I don't plan on asking people to provide me proof of vaccinations! How is this practical?
  • The CDC info sheet says there really isn't a "season" for whooping cough, either, so although a PP mentioned she's having a winter baby (actually this doesn't make much sense - how would you know that already? Now I'm tagging you, @mishmardhiono!) the baby being born in the summer or winter doesn't really matter apparently. For pertussis, at least.
  • Frogger5 said:

    The CDC info sheet says there really isn't a "season" for whooping cough, either, so although a PP mentioned she's having a winter baby (actually this doesn't make much sense - how would you know that already? Now I'm tagging you, @mishmardhiono!) the baby being born in the summer or winter doesn't really matter apparently. For pertussis, at least.

    Presumably she's Australian - hence a June baby will be a winter baby. A baby just died in Perth of whooping cough so it's pretty topical here.
  • @ElRuby in reality no I will not ask everyone. If we are out and about baby will be away from others as best I can, but mostly will try to keep baby "home" for the first two months until the first set of vaccinations. After a month though I plan on going back to church and will have to bring baby. No one will be allowed to touch baby or come near and if they ask to touch or come near hand washing and vaccination questions will come up. If they come to my home they will be required to have vaccinations and I will ask to stay away from baby if they are not current. We are very pro vaccination at our home, and most of our friends and family know and understand that about us and will not be offended so it really goes hand in hand with us... But I will be in the same boat with swim lessons and other lessons for my kids this summer and I won't question other people unless they approach near the baby then yes I plan on kindly asking to look from afar... My husband has seen babies die from whooping cough and other vaccine preventable diseases that we take very seriously...
  • I know RSV is higher in Winter.

    I make sure all those that are close to us are up to date, ie grandparents, aunts and uncles. Everyone on my in laws are up to date but I need to remind my parents and sister to get their boosters.
  • Frogger5 said:

    The CDC info sheet says there really isn't a "season" for whooping cough, either, so although a PP mentioned she's having a winter baby (actually this doesn't make much sense - how would you know that already? Now I'm tagging you, @mishmardhiono!) the baby being born in the summer or winter doesn't really matter apparently. For pertussis, at least.

    Presumably she's Australian - hence a June baby will be a winter baby. A baby just died in Perth of whooping cough so it's pretty topical here.
    Ah ha ha! I did not even think of that possibility! I feel silly now. Totally makes sense. Sorry for being Northern-Hemisphre-centric!
  • Yep, from Perth australia. The baby that recently passed away has been an amazing 'Game changer' here. I've had my vaccine but the suppliers and manufacturers are apparently out of stock because of the increased demand following this babies death.

    Because of all the hieghtened interest surrounding the babies death my immediate family and close friends without children have all booked in to get their vacc done to protect baby so we have been lucky to not have to ask but I would anyway I think. 1 5 second jab costing $20 will save my child's health. Pre pregnancy if my friends had of asked me I wouldn't have blinked an eye.

    It's easy to blame anti vaxers but adults with no boosters are just te same. I think everyone (myself included) just rely on childhood vaccines unless your employment supplies them until you go on to have a child.
  • I got mine last week and it did leave my arm pretty sore for a couple days!! But I would for sure get vaccination. It protects you and your baby! My husband is also getting in 2 weeks. And since the grandparents are going to be around our little one so much after birth we have asked them to get it too.
  • I am 100% pro vaccine....however....the TDap has a category C rating (shows harm to animal fetus, no studies in humans). If you can only get the preservative free flu shot pregnant why is it ok to get the Tdap while pregnant? I may wait til after the baby is born but then I have to deal with a crazy sore arm. I last had one in 2010 and I had an awful localized reaction to it. I'm going to discuss the risks/benefits with my OB.
  • jesshrou said:

    I am 100% pro vaccine....however....the TDap has a category C rating (shows harm to animal fetus, no studies in humans). If you can only get the preservative free flu shot pregnant why is it ok to get the Tdap while pregnant? I may wait til after the baby is born but then I have to deal with a crazy sore arm. I last had one in 2010 and I had an awful localized reaction to it. I'm going to discuss the risks/benefits with my OB.

    I have decided to wait for this reason too. 
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  • Since this came back up again - I'm getting the vaccine tomorrow. I had planned to get it soon anyway, but my MIL just let me know that there have been 3 confirmed cases of pertussis in her school, at least one of which was actually one of her students. She got her vaccine yesterday, but I'm getting mine tomorrow too as an extra precaution. I'm going to see her next weekend and I think that, in this situation especially, better safe than sorry.
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  • Tylenol is a class C drug too, but ask your doctor what she recommends if you get a fever.
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  • megmama said:

    jesshrou said:

    I am 100% pro vaccine....however....the TDap has a category C rating (shows harm to animal fetus, no studies in humans). If you can only get the preservative free flu shot pregnant why is it ok to get the Tdap while pregnant? I may wait til after the baby is born but then I have to deal with a crazy sore arm. I last had one in 2010 and I had an awful localized reaction to it. I'm going to discuss the risks/benefits with my OB.

    I have decided to wait for this reason too. 
    Definitely a good idea to chat with your OB about it. The reason I will be getting Tdap during pregnancy is so my baby will be born with antibodies to help protect against pertussis before baby is old enough for his/her own DTap vaccine (at 2 months). Given my additional research, I do not find the C level classification (in and of itself) to outweigh the benefits of Tdap during pregnancy.

    Some journal articles that you may find interesting:
    Safety (British Medical Journal *similar vaccine):
    https://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g4219

    Safety (American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology):
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22727350/

    Effectiveness (American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology):
    https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(10)02286-6/abstract#/article/S0002-9378(10)02286-6/fulltext?mobileUi=1

  • Didn't mean to start something. I am a well educated medical provider who is just questioning the whole category C thing.
    Tylenol is category B just to clarify.
  • amhowell14amhowell14 member
    edited March 2015
    jesshrou said:

    Didn't mean to start something. I am a well educated medical provider who is just questioning the whole category C thing.
    Tylenol is category B just to clarify.

    Tylenol is indeed a category c drug.

    https://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/acetaminophen.html
  • jessieR358jessieR358 member
    edited March 2015
    Not according to my drug manual or the FDA. if you read it on drugs.com it must be correct.
  • jesshrou said:

    Not according to my drug manual or the FDA. if you read it on drugs.com it must be correct.

    No need for a snarky response. I just don't get my info from drugs.com. According to my OB, it's a cat C.
  • I think it is really important to respect the choices we make, as pregnant women, with regard to these vaccines... Choosing not to get the flu shot or TDap in pregnancy is not the same as being an anti-vaxxer or being uneducated. I personally question when guidelines change so drastically from year to year and the CDC is not going to direct all my medical decisions... They have made huge mistakes in the past and sometimes they are spot on...but either way I refuse to play the game of "I know more than you" and I see these posts get into huge debates over and over.... Now let's discuss how much weight we all have gained :)
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