Cord blood banking

sharice111 · February 2015

Does anyone know where to find good I formation on cord blood banking. We weren't able to with our first 3 and we now are more financially stable to do so and want to be able to do this for our child and it could potentially help our other children should the need ever arrive. Cost is still important, I'm not sure where to look and don't want to just have someone sell it to me, I want options to look at... Any advice? Anyone else doing this? Thanks in advance!

finchfeeder80 · February 2015

I'm going to donate mine if my hospital has the ability. But other than donating, no, I won't be banking it.

tinybugsmom · February 2015

We aren't cord banking or donating. Will be doing delayed cord clamping until it stops pulsing.

There was a great article from a midwife about this... that by clamping the cord to bank, you are taking over 1/3 of your newborns blood that should be in their body.

And cord blood isn't any different... it is just blood that is baby's.

Have been a lot of recent articles from studies that have ended on delayed clamping vs clamping right away to bank. Preemies do much better with few to no complications when delayed clamping is allowed. Term babies have lower anemia rates, and fewer problems breathing at birth.

My sister banked her boy's blood. I think she uses ViaCord.

tinybugsmom · February 2015

The article:

https://midwifethinking.com/2011/02/10/cord-blood-collection-confessions-of-a-vampire-midwife/

Katerina&Baby · February 2015

tinybugsmom said:
We aren't cord banking or donating. Will be doing delayed cord clamping until it stops pulsing.

There was a great article from a midwife about this... that by clamping the cord to bank, you are taking over 1/3 of your newborns blood that should be in their body.

And cord blood isn't any different... it is just blood that is baby's.

Have been a lot of recent articles from studies that have ended on delayed clamping vs clamping right away to bank. Preemies do much better with few to no complications when delayed clamping is allowed. Term babies have lower anemia rates, and fewer problems breathing at birth.

My sister banked her boy's blood. I think she uses ViaCord.

FYI you can delay cord clamping (for up to 2 minutes) AND bank or donate - just a thought if anyone didn't want to have to "choose".

EDIT FOR CLARITY : Quoted tinybugsmom because my response is relevant to what she is doing but this response is NOT aimed at tinybugsmom (since if you wanted to wait until the cord stopped pulsing completely, that could well take beyond the 2 minute threshold)

emilylistman · February 2015

I am planning to do delayed clamping AND banking, if possible. Still doing research to figure it all out! CBR seems to be the biggest out there: https://www.cordblood.com/

sharice111 · February 2015

Thank you @Katerina and emilistman the decision is made already. We are doing it, we have done our research on the topic of it I just want different storage places. There have been many studies of cord blood saving children's lives that later develop cancer ect. They are getting better and a siblings cord blood can now sometimes even help a sibling. It's just a matter of finding the right company to store for us. Clamping the cord is not a big issue for us... Every baby loses its attachment to the placenta in some way and it's gonna get clamped so I'm not worried about that. Saving this cord blood could save lives in the future.

thanks for the links ladies super helpful info! If you know any other companies feel free to shoot tem my way. I do appreciate the help.

Redlipz · February 2015

I used cbr. I believe it's around $2k-$3k to do it all and then it's about $130 a year. You might also want to look into stem cell banking.

I have a lot of cancer in my family so that's why we chose to save it.

klkonwi · February 2015

I'm sorry but you are also making your kid have a way higher chance of jaundice and other problems by delayed clamping. I've seen it too many times. Hate on me all you want.. We all have our own opinions and experiences

seannemairi · February 2015

We'll be donating. The more people donate, the more will be available to people who couldn't afford bank for themselves.

thepalindromicone · February 2015

Plan donating for public use... I'm not sure if the post is still searchable on this board but there was a woman on the board previously whose son is alive due to a cord blood donor - it was quite compelling (although I had already planned on donating publicly). May try and delay clamp AND donate but would hate to not time it right that nobody benefits (not enough to donate what could've gone to baby otherwise). We'll see when the time gets closer if truly our baby had risk factors to sway me to just do delayed cord clamping.

Sorry I have no scoop on private banking.

Katerina&Baby · February 2015

klkonwi said:
I'm sorry but you are also making your kid have a way higher chance of jaundice and other problems by delayed clamping. I've seen it too many times. Hate on me all you want.. We all have our own opinions and experiences

"Way higher chance of jaundice and other problems by delayed clamping" is not an opinion, it's a conclusion and I would very much like to know what you are basing this on and what "other problems" you are referring to. From my own research, I call "BS" on your conclusion. Here's why:

I am including a link to a recent article in "Evidence-Based Child Health" (a Cochrane Review Journal) analyzing 15 controlled trials on nearly 4,000 mother/infant pairs. Feel free to read it for yourself but the general conclusion was that delayed cord clamping provides a "SMALL additional risk of jaundice in newborns" (a risk difference of less than 2% between the early and delayed clamping groups) and that the benefits of delayed cord clamping include "higher birthweight, early haemoglobin concentration, and increased iron reserves up to 6 months after birth."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ebch.1971/abstract

People can balance the risks against the benefits for themselves (hopefully with the advice of their OB) but just randomly posting incorrect information ("way higher chance of jaundice") and vague assertions of other negative outcomes ("other problems") with ZERO factual support is nonsense. I would expect more from someone who purports to be a labor and delivery nurse.

klkonwi · February 2015

I don't purport to be one. I am one.

klkonwi · February 2015

I also refuse to argue on the internet with someone I don't know. I stated my opinion and there's plenty of evidence to back it up as well....... But I have a life and don't have all the time in the world to post it here. You go with what u think.... And I'll state what I think. Ok pumpkin ?!

Katerina&Baby · February 2015

klkonwi said:
I also refuse to argue on the internet with someone I don't know. I stated my opinion and there's plenty of evidence to back it up as well....... But I have a life and don't have all the time in the world to post it here. You go with what u think.... And I'll state what I think. Ok pumpkin ?!

So you're too busy to provide evidentiary support for your conclusions but you're not too busy to post a sneering, condescending comment or two - cool.

Out of curiosity, was your original post meant to actually educate us on negative outcomes caused by delayed clamping (for which actual scientific evidence would be welcome, by the way) or was your goal just to achieve a drive-by denigration?

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

https://bethematch.org My father had a bone marrow transplant in October (declared successful in late January, 100 days post-transplant!!!!) and that is the organization that we worked with in order to seek a match for him. (He ended up getting marrow from his older brother, which was a huge concern and very risky due to age and other health issues - but there was no other match, and he needed a transplant to live.) I was supposed to be tested for a match for him, but then found out I was pregnant. Even with my father's situation (relapse is always a threat), I am planning to publicly bank my baby's cord blood. My family discussed together and with my father's doctors about the pros/cons of public vs. private banking. The doctors are very supportive of public banking. I admire you and thank you for wanting to do your own research. Hope this link and anecdote help you make the decision that is right for you and your family. https://bethematch.org

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

Sorry, just saw your mind is made up on private banking. Was not trying to change your mind at all. People need to do what is right for their own families. Hope my link and story help to inform decision making for anyone still researching their options. There is a lot of information on this thread that in no way matches the information that we received from my father's doctors...

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

Sorry, just saw your mind is made up on private banking. Was not trying to change your mind at all. People need to do what is right for their own families. Hope my link and story help to inform decision making for anyone still researching their options. There is a lot of information on this thread that in no way matches the information that we received from my father's doctors...

sharice111 · February 2015

I didn't know there was public banking. @amark11‌ your story is inspiring. I will look into the link. Is public banking simply donating it? Thank you for te responses. I think this is a great topic and can help so many lives especially with all the future researchc coming out.

sharice111 · February 2015

So cost wise, I'm by sure if we could come up with enough for private banking. If we can't then public banking sounds amazing!!! Thank you for discussing this topic! I really appreciate it. I will talk to my husband more about both options and see what will work for our family. I wish I would have known about public banking with our first three. It seems like such a waste to have them all just gone in the trash, even if they wouldn't have worked it is worth it to try in my mind. Thanks ladies!!!

klkonwi · February 2015

https://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Obstetric-Practice/Timing-of-Umbilical-Cord-Clamping-After-Birth?IsMobileSet=true

klkonwi · February 2015

Just a research article on it so @Katerina&Baby‌ can quit crying about it.

Penwater1 · February 2015

I did a lot of research abd decided to go with Via Cord. They have tge best cryogenic facilities and great grantees on cell cout abd viability. We have no prior history of health problems but decided it was an investment in our daughter's future. She was born wuth an extremely rare liver disease, Biliary Atresia. It is not detectable before birth and the causes are unknown. She had an operation and will need a liver transplant someday. For now she is doing great. I am so glad we banked her cord blood as stem cells may help prevent organ rejection someday.

KonaCoffeeBean · February 2015

@klkonwi‌ That's a really interesting article; thank you for sharing. It does appear to support your claim that problems with juandice are more likely with delayed cord clamping, though I'm not sure what the "other problems" you referred to are. It certainly appears that in the case of an early birth, the benefits of delayed clamping are easily more significant than the potential negative impacts. Again, thank you for sharing the article; it gives a lot of useful information.

HoosOnFirst · February 2015

I really appreciate this thread - now I know about public cord banking, which sounds like a wonderful and easy thing to do to help others!

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

Public banking can also be seen as a free alternative that can *potentially* help your own family. In our case, if my father (or, heaven forbid, another family member) needs my baby's cells AND it is a match for him AND the blood is still available, he will have access to it. While there are a lot of factors that may prompt high-risk families to pay for private banking, from my family's perspective, we do not see the value of private banking for our own situation - because there is no guarantee it will be a match for my father (he has two brothers, and only one was a match; there were no public matches for him). We personally like knowing that the blood has more chance to help *someone* (matches are extremely complex and not at all the same as, for example, just matching blood for a transfusion). We are fortunate enough to have the resources to privately bank, but felt public banking leaves us enough possibility for helping my father OR a stranger, however the game of life decides to play out. I am glad this story is helping people consider all angles that are right for their own family's situation, and am really grateful for the open minds and generosity that I am seeing here. I know more about this than I ever wanted to, but still very little, so obviously my perspective cannot replace your own research.

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

Please also note that if you are interested in either public or private banking, my understanding is that arrangements need to made before you show up at the hospital for delivery. Bethematch.org has a list of participating US hospitals and information about the process, and I'm sure the other links posted here are also valuable resources. It is not complicated but does involve a little early planning. ***Perhaps something to ask about when you do your hospital tour, for example.*** Thanks again for your attention to this issue.

HoosOnFirst · February 2015

After reading this thread, I checked with my hospital and they partner with a national program: you can decide ahead of time but also can just tell them when you get there the day you are in labor! And change your mind at any point too. Love my hospital!

virginiaunicorn11 · February 2015

Oh awesome! Thanks for letting us know!

mamahawk12 · February 2015

@amark11 - agree with you100%. Public banking, all the way. Anyone who is not directly employed by (or receiving kickbacks from) a private cord blood banking company will tell you it's a scam. A dirty one, in my opinion. Yes, let's prey on new parents and scare them into paying for this exorbitantly priced service by using terrifying terms and inflated statistics. Goes without saying, we'll be publicly donating for the third time.

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