June 2015 Moms

Another update from me

Well, ladies, every piece of good news comes with a heck of a lot if 'we don't know'.

Our initial round of amnio results have come back clear :) This rules out Down's syndrome, Edwards and whatever that 3rd one is she told me.

To us, this sounded like good news? To the doctors it just means that they know what's NOT going on, but not what IS.

So they are now talking to us about termination. That the legal cutoff in our state is 23wks so all our decisions have to be made quickly. Next we are meeting with a team of neo doctors and nurses who are going to show us 'the harsh reality of what her life, and ours, will look like' so that we can make the most informed and realistic decision.

I am losing my mind. I am carrying a baby that has so much going right along with so much not. She is kicking me as I am considering what is fair to her future, and if she has a real shot at life. I am in some kind of personal hell, with no intuition of what's going to happen.

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Re: Another update from me

  • I am so so sorry. Thinking of you and your family.
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  • Wow. This is a really tough spot. I honestly don't know what to say except I'm thinking about you and wishing you well, no matter what happens.
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  • this makes me so sad. I just want you and your partner to try and stay as positive as you can I can't dven begin to imagine how hard this must be on you guys. I am wishing you And all involved the best.

    Please keep us updated if you can .
  • I'm so sorry you are dealing with this! How confusing when they don't seem to know what is wrong? Can you get a second opinion immediately?
  • Oh wow, I am so sorry all this is happening. Hopefully they can figure out what's going on and you can make the best decision for your family. Sending my thoughts.
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  • I'm so sorry about all the uncertainty. You, your family and little one are in my thoughts.
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  • Termination for a heart defect? Am I missing something?
  • Sorry that there are still so many questions - but I'm glad you got SOME good news and it sounds like baby's trying her best to hang in there! Prayers for you and your family.
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  • Oh goodness, my sincerest apologies for such a terrible situation!!! Prayers go to you and your family!


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  • I would be extremely hesitant to terminate without know anything definitely. I hope you get some answers!
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  • I am so sorry. My Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
  • Oh goodness! Im so sorry that you are going through this, I can't imagine the confusion you must be feeling.I'll be keeping you and your babe in my thoughts and prayers xoxox
  • I can not imagine the place you and your SO are in right now. I wish there was something we could do to ease your heart. You are in my thoughts and prayers. 
  • So sorry about your struggle. I hope you are Getting all the support you need
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  • KJKNAJ said:


    To us, this sounded like good news? To the doctors it just means that they know what's NOT going on, but not what IS.

    So they are now talking to us about termination. That the legal cutoff in our state is 23wks so all our decisions have to be made quickly. Next we are meeting with a team of neo doctors and nurses who are going to show us 'the harsh reality of what her life, and ours, will look like' so that we can make the most informed and realistic decision.

    OP, if this is too personal of a question, I apologize in advance - your situation has been in my head all afternoon and I can't stop thinking about it. It sounds like your doctors have been really upfront with you about the worst case scenario - have they been equally candid about the possibilities of a positive outcome? They've admitted that they don't know what's going on, but it sounds like they're making it sound like your daughter is doomed to a miserable life. I understand that time is a concern here, but I hope they're not trying to push you and your husband into anything.

    Regardless of what you and your husband decide, I hope you find peace and healing in each other. I'll continue to pray for both of you and your daughter! I sincerely hope you get good news soon.
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  • Thanks everyone.

    @karaelaine1991 -  no need to apologise for any questions! It is helpful for me to have all your thoughts as I process my own actually.

    We have been given many pieces of good news - in fact, if the heart defects are ALL that we are dealing with here, then we can feel very good about her prognosis. Our agony is in the waiting to hear what else is on her plate. I have a single artery umbilical cord and a large nuchal fold that together with the heart defects, give the doctor more cause for concern. Alone they are significant but together they spell even more for our girl.

    Our main doctor also explained that couples are often so anxious to hop on all the good news and get excited when this specialist or that give them good news. For example, we left the heart doctor so encouraged. But he is only worried about the heart! It is her responsibility to worry about the overall picture for this baby, and her responsibility to force us to look at both sides of the coin.

    If I could only tell you how much detailed medical stuff I have heard in the last week. It is all so confusing and we don't want to hear the hard stuff, but we have to if we are to make decisions we can live with for the rest of our lives.


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  • @KJKNAJ‌ it all sounds very overwhelming and stressful, to say the least! I'm glad your doctors are keeping you informed on every possibility. Sounds like you have a good team looking out for you! Keep us updated, I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best!
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  • Such a tough situation but please don't give up hope. Life with a disability or illness doesn't necessarily mean that it will be filled with hardship. Yes there will be challenges but there is also opportunity for great joy and love! Remember you are your baby's greatest champion and voice in this world. Wishing you peace.
  • Are we talking left hypoplastic heart?! Or what type ? I am so very sorry you are going through this..... Termination seems extreme with what little info you do have. Once again as an l and d nurse I've seen people be warned and concerned to death and then have absolutely nothing wrong with their child. Unfortunately I've seen the opposite as well.
  • So sorry. No mama should have to make this decision.
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  • Wow, all of this must be so overwhelming. The unknown is so, so scary. And your doctor's are right, it's so hard to NOT put all your faith in the "possible good outcome". 

    As a personal anecdote - I have a girlfriend go through a similar pregnancy. It was filled with lots of uncertainty and questions about what MIGHT be wrong with their baby. And as it tuned out, what he has is so rare that there are only SIX people in the whole WORLD with his genetic abnormality, and it wasn't even officially diagnosed until he was nearly a year old. He's had countless surgeries and has plenty of physical complications. But mentally, he is an average 2 year old. He is their world and they obviously wouldn't go back and change anything. All that said, they are both in very secure, very well compensated jobs and have the financial and support (family, friends, etc) resources to make it all work. Even then, it's not an easy path by any means. They have no idea what his future will hold and live very much day-by-day. 

    It sounds like you have a lot of soul searching to do in the next few days. Thoughts are with you - please keep us posted! 
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  • I'm not a doctor and I don't have a child with any disabilities but I teach students with moderate to profound multiple disabilities.
    Most of the kids I teach are medically fragile, non-verbal, and have limited mobility. I also teach general children. My special needs students brighten my life. This is my first year teaching them and it has changed my outlook on life. Every success with them is a huge deal. I happen to teach them music and when there is a breakthrough it is cause for celebration. Almost all of my students love music and will laugh and smile with me.
    I understand that the path is scary, uncertain, and overwhelming. There has been so much progress in special education for children like your daughter. I can't imagine having information like what you've received brought to me. After teaching the students I have now I know there is hope for them and teachers who will love her so much. The teachers at my school will do anything for their students including going to visit them in the hospital, at home when they're too sick to come in, sending Skype videos of the class, or even just holding them as they cry.
    Just know that there is support waiting for whatever outcomes you find with her. These are people who will love her and want only the best for her.
    Please keep us updated and know that we're praying for your family.
  • @KJKNAJ I'm sorry you have to go through this... I hope you get all the right information you need to make decisions you're comfortable with. I definitely agree with quick 2nd opinions when it comes to scary stuff that needs big decisions. FX
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