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Trying hard not to judge right now

MrsRustyGriswoldMrsRustyGriswold member
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I really strive to be a live and let live mom and not judge other mama choices, but I'm struggling today.  A friend took her weeks-old newborn to Disneyland...in the middle of the highly publicized measles problem over there.  I just, I just can't not judge.  :(
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  • Mysterious_wifeMysterious_wife member
    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.
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    I know, it's scary out there these days. I'm mostly a "germs build immunity" kind of mom, but not when it comes to major diseases.
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    Allie isn't fully vaccinated either. She had a reaction and they won't give them to her now. :( she gets the mist for flu
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    Mysterious_wife said:

    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.

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    It is crazy in DW... I heard on the news that DW is offering the vaccine to visitors for free

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  • whenwillieversleepwhenwillieversleep member
    Mysterious_wife said:

    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.

    Disney World is in Florida. The outbreak is in Disneyland which is located in California. If Disney World in Florida is what you were speaking of, then have fun!
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    whenwillieversleep said:
    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.
    Disney World is in Florida. The outbreak is in Disneyland which is located in California. If Disney World in Florida is what you were speaking of, then have fun!
    This is a pretty silly response. MW's baby will still be too little for most vaccines at just a few months old. Regardless of which park I don't blame her for being nervous about going to one of those places with a baby. Seeing that ANY major theme park was the hotbed of a lethal disease should give anyone pause.

    And in terms of scale and probability, DW is much larger and has way more tourists so the risk of communicable diseases would arguably be much higher.
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    Mysterious_wife said:

    Allie isn't fully vaccinated either. She had a reaction and they won't give them to her now. :( she gets the mist for flu

    I had forgotten that. She is exactly the reason why everyone else needs their vaccinations, everyone!
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    DebateThis said:


    whenwillieversleep said:

    Mysterious_wife said:

    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.

    Disney World is in Florida. The outbreak is in Disneyland which is located in California. If Disney World in Florida is what you were speaking of, then have fun!

    This is a pretty silly response. MW's baby will still be too little for most vaccines at just a few months old. Regardless of which park I don't blame her for being nervous about going to one of those places with a baby. Seeing that ANY major theme park was the hotbed of a lethal disease should give anyone pause.

    And in terms of scale and probability, DW is much larger and has way more tourists so the risk of communicable diseases would arguably be much higher.


    Add to that the higher numbers of international tourists who may come from somewhere that has different vaccination standards than the U.S. and it remains a frightening proposition right now.
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    MrsRustyGriswold said:

    DebateThis said:


    whenwillieversleep said:

    Mysterious_wife said:

    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.

    Disney World is in Florida. The outbreak is in Disneyland which is located in California. If Disney World in Florida is what you were speaking of, then have fun!

    This is a pretty silly response. MW's baby will still be too little for most vaccines at just a few months old. Regardless of which park I don't blame her for being nervous about going to one of those places with a baby. Seeing that ANY major theme park was the hotbed of a lethal disease should give anyone pause.

    And in terms of scale and probability, DW is much larger and has way more tourists so the risk of communicable diseases would arguably be much higher.
    Add to that the higher numbers of international tourists who may come from somewhere that has different vaccination standards than the U.S. and it remains a frightening proposition right now.

    You are exactly right. My point was just that everyone except OP was referring to Disney World but it's actually Disneyland, which is on the complete opposite side of the country.
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    MrsRustyGriswold said:
    whenwillieversleep said:
    We were thinking about going to DW in the fall. The no vaccine thing is my hang up. Baby will be a few months old.
    Disney World is in Florida. The outbreak is in Disneyland which is located in California. If Disney World in Florida is what you were speaking of, then have fun!
    This is a pretty silly response. MW's baby will still be too little for most vaccines at just a few months old. Regardless of which park I don't blame her for being nervous about going to one of those places with a baby. Seeing that ANY major theme park was the hotbed of a lethal disease should give anyone pause.

    And in terms of scale and probability, DW is much larger and has way more tourists so the risk of communicable diseases would arguably be much higher.
    Add to that the higher numbers of international tourists who may come from somewhere that has different vaccination standards than the U.S. and it remains a frightening proposition right now.
    Most other countries, thankfully, have stricter vaccine requirements than the US. And I can't speak for all international tourists or people who move here from other countries, but by and large all my international coworkers think anti-vax Americans are BSC. As one of my Pakistani coworkers put it "I've seen that shit first hand - why would I ever gamble with my life like that?!"
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  • 4N6s4N6s member
    It's spread through the air, so if there aren't any affected people there, shouldn't the baby be fine?
    Open ventilated areas are safer than closed rooms, etc.
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  • Mysterious_wifeMysterious_wife member
    Just so we are clear,The measles aren't the only concern with having an unvaccinated infant and child. Do nt forget there are other diseases on the rise. Unfortunately Allie already had chicken pox. I do not want to do that with an infant. Just because it's airborne and open spaces yada yada does not mean there isn't a chance.
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  • ExcitedtostartExcitedtostart member
    4N6s said:
    It's spread through the air, so if there aren't any affected people there, shouldn't the baby be fine? Open ventilated areas are safer than closed rooms, etc.
    The virus that causes measles can hang suspended in the air for over two hours after an infected person coughs or sneezes, or even just yells or laughs (things that I assume are pretty common at an amusement park). It is so contagious that a person infected with measles can infect 90% of the people that they come into contact with. People are contagious for 4 - 7 days before showing signs or symptoms of the disease. (CDC, yo)

    So, yeah, I'd rather hang out in a park with someone potentially infected with measles over a small, closed room. But her concern is excruciatingly valid. 
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