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February 2015 Moms
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@bumptara and @bumpadmin are you freaking real???
We created the community platform for you and we support you and your right to share your thoughts, feelings and advice. We know how much it helps to talk (virtually) with someone who may be sharing in the same experiences. And thanks to community members like you--who come together in support, knowledge-share and friendship--The Bump community continues to thrive and our membership grows stronger and stronger every day.
Recently, certain members violated the site’s Terms of Use by posting malicious profanity and harassing and pornographic content directed at members. In an effort to keep our community safe, those few members who were in clear violation of the Terms of Use were banned. The Bump has been exploring several possible scenarios in order to ensure this type of behavior never happens again.
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I have been quiet through this whole situation because honestly I thought both sides handled the situation poorly, and I wanted to see what happened in time. But you as administrators of these forums are just acting more and more foolish. I cannot for the life of me understand why you continue to say that the moderators who were IP banned were banned for posting malicious content and porn. Can you show examples of such actions? because all evidence points to the fact that they were banned before any porn was posted. And these are the same moderators who have, for many years, been the first line of defense keeping these forums clear of porn and malicious content. Do you know the forum created in lieu of this place also doesn't allow porn or malicious content? Run by the same people you accuse of doing so here it makes so much sense... Stop falsely accusing them.
Has porn been posted in recent days? Yes as a protest for your actions with those users having the full intention of being banned. If you want to change the direction of the forums fine so be it. If that includes a change of volunteer leadership, fine so be it. Yes there would have been an uproar but not to the extent you have seen.
You say you care about our thoughts and opinions? Then actually listen to why so many people are upset, because you seem to have it all wrong. STILL. It is not because of the TOU changes, it is not because you want to change the vibe of the forums. Yes many disagree with the changes but the reason so many left, the reason so many are protesting these forums and have taken to social media to do so, the reason so many are disgusted with the administration is the way the situation was handled and how you treated people. False accusations included.
So man up and admit there were mistakes made. Man up and admit changes were made for the sake of changing the culture around here. Many up and apologize for disrespecting so many people. And please for goodness sake stop falsely accusing those who can no longer defend themselves here.
Love is like infinity: You can't have more or less infinity, and you can't compare two things to see if they're "equally infinite." Infinity just is, and that's the way I think love is, too.
Fred Rogers
Fred Rogers
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Re: bump tara
Just wanted to let you know that, going forward, these topics will be discussed in the BumpHQ section.
Thanks!
Why? Let's discuss it here instead of moving (ie: hiding) the thread on a difficult to find board.
DS 2/17/15
BFP 6/12/17
EDD 2/18/17
Fred Rogers
Andplusalso, I agree that we deserve it posted here where we can actually find/ access it!
I'm not superbly active here but this is all just such BS. I'm disappointed.
The comments from you and @BumpAdmin are comments that can be made without actually reading any posts. Having a true open dialogue may actually help you get somewhere here.
Fred Rogers
I've noticed a considerable improvement on this forum in the last couple of weeks, in the fact that people no longer seem apprehensive about posting their pregnancy related stories and concerns. The replies to these posts have been mature, helpful and free from the previous sarcasm and judgement.
From what I can see, admin stepped in and stopped a bunch of people from using what is supposed to be a "public forum" from being treated as their personal platform to display what they felt was wit or humour.
In reality from an onlookers point of view it was purely a bunch of women stroking their own egos, using nastiness and bullying to belittle and degrade anyone who should indeed invade their turf.
I was often astounded by the outright blatant rudeness of some people and after a while there was an obvious pattern as to who the main perpetrators were. It distressed me to see the bullying intensify when -God forbid- the person being ridiculed answered back.
I'm from Australia and If this behaviour occurred here the person instigating the bullying would be pulled up on it, given a kick up the bum and told to pull their head in rather than be glorified and defended as has occurred on here.
If you want exclusivity to your conversations without pesky "newbs" butting in- start a Facebook account where you can all join and "flame" each other to your hearts content!
But seriously- let it go already. This topic has been over dramatised and I'm glad admin have given flat impersonal responses- because that's all it truly deserves.
And that is my opinion!
But that is not what happened they disrespected the community, they have lied, they have banned users without cause and destroyed the community. Big difference.
Fred Rogers
Fred Rogers
I'm not going to do any further back and forth- I purely just wanted to acknowledge that in my humble opinion it was nice to see women feeling more secure in coming forth to discuss whatever issues they had and getting- for the most part- a genuine and caring response.
Eyes to the future ladies, good luck to you all with the birth and life after.
What you did here was a perfect example of the irony of the situation. You came in, posted this message and sadly your words are taken more to heart by @BumpAdmin and @BumpTara than that of the previously established community of "bad apples." Not because your words are more valid than the thousands said by active members of the community, but because you hit them at their trigger "oh no! New person is leaving the 'app!'"
But please, say something about this group, leave (because you really were going to be a huge contributor anyway) and @BumpTara can take your words back to HQ and feel justified in this debacle because some random girl "like totally understands what we are trying to do here!"
Like I have said (now 3 times in here) the admins are a bunch of liars who disrespected a whole community. Just like you as a newb felt.
I have always tried to be nice to newbies we were all newbies once. While I thought the tou wasn't the best way to change things I understood it and moved on.
And newbies in general were not badgered here, yes we did not like being treated like Google (who does) and honestly some of names we have been called by news is quite disgusting. More so than any regular I have seen around here. But newbies who asked silly questions were still given advice and help.
Fred Rogers
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I remember having my first child- I was young, naive and anxious. If there was a community of women I could discuss issues with fairly anonymously I would have chosen that as opposed to feeling like I was wasting a medical practitioners time.
Understandably some concerns do need to be raised with a doctor but in all reality I don't see why anyone finds it so totally abhorrent for a new mother to feel confused about what's going on with her body and ask for advice from others in a similar situation.
Who knows she may be completdly isolated- in Australia there are women in rural areas hundreds of kilometres from any doctor and further still from any hospital, so looking to this site as an initial sounding board for advice makes perfect sense.
I don't consider myself a newb. I have been here since the beginning of my pregnancy, I have read many posts, I felt for the women who suffered loss, I felt pleased for those who've had healthy babies. I haven't posted previously because I didn't feel comfortable to do so. I said previously that it was quite obvious who the perpetrators of the bullying were and from what I could see it was the mods, why would I comment when the people who seemed to be running the show were the ones issuing the majority of tongue lashings. My opinion is obviously my own and I'm not trying to cause any ill will, I merely aimed to point out that it's takes no effort to be kind, not just to people deemed to be "within the community" but to everyone. Yes a lot of you did give advice for women to seek a doctors opinion, but come on- most of the time this was done with obvious sarcastic undertones, clearly to send a message to that person that they shared an unwanted post. For example I saw a woman berated quite badly for asking for advice on throwing herself a baby shower, it was pointed out to her that she had no business posting in that thread as it was clearly for women to share their photos post shower. She apologised only for people to go on to call her tacky, greedy (insert a plethora of insulting GIF's here) etc for throwing herself a shower. This is one example of the completely unnecessary, unwarranted bullying that deterred me from taking part in discussions.
Obviously none of the members on this site were hoping for people to be barred but something did need to be done so that they felt as though they had a voice and also and a right to contribute without a public bashing for doing so.
It's obvious that emotions are running high over this topic and I by no means wish to stir the pot, or offend anyone but it seems that admin have made a decision. There's nothing stopping you from starting a social media page elsewhere where you can all gather and share and support- where you regulate the content, the members etc.
This really is my final input as I feel I've stated my opinion and anything further would just be a pointless rehash.
I really do wish you the best, just think in a couple of weeks all of this drama will be a distant memory in a lovely sleep deprived haze, and your main focus will be a beautiful baby!
Xoxo Myf
This is/was a community! NOT GOOGLE.
A lot of repeat question are posted here daily that could simply be fixed by googling the question first or using the search engine with in the bump to see if it has been posted before.
As far as the Shower question goes. If you are/were apart of this grouo you would understand the reaction of why that question goes down here. Once again using the search engine you could easily find an answer without asking the same question again. I'll admit when I seen Shower posts it would upset me. There is an etiquette to showers and throwing yourself one is considered very gift grabby.
If you were here from the beginning you should have become apart of the group not just someone coming out of the woodworks now. I can see why you aren't being received in away you'd like to.
You newbs/lurkers think that this is all so much better now that the admin changed the board and made it easier for all of you to use this as google. But what you don't get is this was a fabulous community that has now been ruined. You say go create your own social page. But why should we when we had that right here?
All the newbs kept complaining that they weren't being recieved the way they wanted or didn't like the answers they were given. Who paid the ultimate price? Was it the newbs/lurkers or the people that created this great group?
Since this has all gone down all we see now are drive by posters! No one cares to be a community because all of you look at this as an "APP".
It has to do with the awful way people were treated by admins , defamation of character against excellent members of these forums (several who would make any person except the absolute insane feel welcome here) and have out right lied about their actions.
And yes there are silly questions. Have you seen how often people ask if two line on a pregnancy test means they are pregnant? I mean come on read the directions that came with it. Or is morning sickness common.... These posts still get reasonable answers yes humor tends to be added as they grow but they still get answers.
All that bring said I do appreciate that you can be intelligent and reasonable with your explanations. It is just absolutely irrelevant to this post.
Fred Rogers