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Apropos of yesterday's UOs.... (PR)

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edited January 2015 in Parenting
can we talk about sleep training? I am new here. Is this taboo?

I have a nine month old. He STTN until about a month and a half ago. Then he started waking up about twice a night.

It is driving me crazy, and I am driving MYSELF crazy by overthinking it. Teething? Not enough solid food? Not enough breastmilk? Too cold in room? Headlights on walls? Just nine months old?

I know he CAN STTN, because he used to. I got into a habit of nursing him back to sleep because the first couple of times he woke up I thought it was just a one-off. Then by the time I realized it WASN'T a one-off...it was a habit. Now we are stuck.

I want to "re-train" him by, when he cries in the middle of the night, sitting next to his crib and patting him on the back until he falls asleep. Maybe giving him some water in a sippy cup. Is this cruel? Is this reasonable? I am overthinking this, too.

I AM SO CONFUSED. Help?
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Re: Apropos of yesterday's UOs.... (PR)

  • It is reasonable. Just be prepared to sit there for a long time. (IME!!!!)  DD would just stare at me for 45 minutes or when she would finally drift off.

    (She had never STTN the night up to that point though so maybe your kid will be nicer and just GTF to sleep.)


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  • Have you read Ferber?

    I have not, mostly because I've read so many people saying he is so so evil. Is he?
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  • Do you (plural you) think it would keep him awake if I read to myself using the low red light on my headlamp while I sat there?

    I have failed a few times at the sitting thing because *I* keep falling asleep and I need something to keep me awake.
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  • @luxannie‌ maybe I'll lay down on the floor. Good point.

    I've been sitting in the rocker and can't actually sleep there, so I nod off and snap awake, nod off and snap awake...I find it super unpleasant.

    I like the idea of being right there so maybe I will check out the Pantley.
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  • TwoScoopz said:


    luxannie said:


    bumwaters said:

    When should one stop feeding in the middle of the night? DS usually wakes up twice and I nurse him for 10 mins and then put him back in the crib...am I doing it wrong? He's 4 months and double his birth weight.

    I'd go by what your pediatrician says.  Mine said, given DS's weight, I could have stopped by 3-4 months.  But I decided I would willingly do it until 9 months because it was the fastest way to get him back to sleep.

    ...until he started waking at crazy times, like one hour after bedtime and one hour after feeds.  Then I got tougher and we needed to sleep train.

    This is my current situation.  My 8 month old's sleep is a mess (keeps getting worse since 4 months).  I will probably try Ferber very soon.  Staying in the room while trying to sleep train wouldn't work for me because I would just cave and feed the kid so that I could go back to bed.

    I have caved a few times too! MH and I are going to make a blood pact tonight.
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  • I'm re-training this weekend after almost a monthly of shitty sleep due to various issues (teeth, travel, sickness) We do our own version of CIO taking ideas from several other methods.

    I thnk the most important thing is to find a method that feels right to you and stick with it for a few days. It isn't all going to change and be perfect on the first night. (Oh but how I wish it would)


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  • @pepperedmoth‌ Can YH do MOTN wakeups for a few days? If I go in DD wants to nurse because she knows mama is for milk, but if DH goes in and pats her back she goes down without needing to eat.

    Yeah. We're working on a strategy for fair division of labor here.....
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  • @lovethatdirtywater‌ we had to send DS1 to my parents house for two nights, for this exact reason. Is something like that an option for you? OP, we just did sleep training over the holidays. My previously great sleeper had been waking up every 1-2 hours all.night.long for about two months. I tried the back rubbing and patting and staying close strategy, and while it certainly soothed him, he would wake up again 1-2 hours later expecting the same to still be happening. For my son, he needed to be able to put himself to sleep. So we decided to ship off ds1 for a sleepover with the grandparents and we did sleep training with checking in at increasing intervals.He took to it amazingly well. Good luck! It is so hard, I know, but do what feels right and is best for you and your LO.
  • This is all soooooo helpful. Thanks everyone!
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