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blackbird818 · January 2015

W e l c o m e t o t h e C r a z y T r a i n ! ! ! !

Feel free to chime in, offer hugs, give your interpretation of a chart stalk and share your knowledge! image

This is a thread posted daily for any of us who need to get out our frustrations about waiting to O, the 2WW, or vent about our cycles.

If you find yourself checking FF obsessively, MF is getting the best of you, or you just want to pee on all things, let it out here! In order for the conductors to be better able to help you, please make sure you either have a FF chart link in your sig, or make sure you post a link.

Don't chart? You should consider it, not only will it give you a lot more insight to your cycles, but conductors will be able to answer a lot of your questions just by looking at your chart!

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The CT is not the place to post a BFP. If you have a "squinter" or if you have a line that appeared after the time frame, please do not post about it here. Take a step back from the board, test again with FMU, and good luck!

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Don't forget to punch your ticket and complete the questions below!

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Crazy level from 1-10:

CD/DPO:

Can I just ______ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here:

meredithcarole · January 2015

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO: cd22/9dpo

Can I just ______ already?!: know what my body is doing?

Signs/Symptoms: whacky temps and some cramping

Explain your Crazy here:

*As a reminder, we are TTA so this is really more of a call for people to speculate on my hormone levels.*

So I had surgery 3.5 weeks ago and stopped BCP that day as instructed to "force" a period. My previous cycle, therefore, was only 16 days. My period was relatively normal. I started temping again on cd10 and it appears I O'd on cd13 (side rant: of course the really good CM would come in a TTA cycle - I have mainly only had watery at best for months :-w , but I digress). Yesterday I forgot to temp and got up to pee. I realized it while peeing and then had to go sit back down and temp afterward. I subtracted .4 from the temp to allow for the error (which put it at my coverline), but of course there is no way to know if this is accurate. Anyway, I was mildly crampy so I took a bath last night and afterward I had red spotting. It has since stopped and today's temp is back up, but I still feel a bit crampy. I am worried because it is such a short LP (even if I am TTA). I don't think AF will arrive today give my temp, but I do wonder what's going on with my body. Thoughts?

*side note, H and I did DTD for the first time since the surgery the night/morning before the forgotten temp so I suppose cervix irritation is a possibility and the cramping could be uterus irritation.

meredithcarole · January 2015

@heartbot‌ I am mobile so I can't see your chart, but I am sorry your O is being elusive.

Oh, and "weiner schnitzel" is pretty funny

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blackbird818 · January 2015

@heartbot (((hugs))) vent away hun. FX for some clarity soon!! Are you going to continue testing with OPKs?

renegadewhit · January 2015

@heartbot

the weinerschnitzel

@meredithcarole could this still be post-surgery healing type spotting?

AFM, CD1 here (boooo!)

blackbird818 · January 2015

meredithcarole said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 5 CD/DPO: cd22/9dpo Can I just ______ already?!: know what my body is doing? Signs/Symptoms: whacky temps and some cramping Explain your Crazy here: *As a reminder, we are TTA so this is really more of a call for people to speculate on my hormone levels.* So I had surgery 3.5 weeks ago and stopped BCP that day as instructed to "force" a period. My previous cycle, therefore, was only 16 days. My period was relatively normal. I started temping again on cd10 and it appears I O'd on cd13 (side rant: of course the really good CM would come in a TTA cycle - I have mainly only had watery at best for months :-w , but I digress). Yesterday I forgot to temp and got up to pee. I realized it while peeing and then had to go sit back down and temp afterward. I subtracted .4 from the temp to allow for the error (which put it at my coverline), but of course there is no way to know if this is accurate. Anyway, I was mildly crampy so I took a bath last night and afterward I had red spotting. It has since stopped and today's temp is back up, but I still feel a bit crampy. I am worried because it is such a short LP (even if I am TTA). I don't think AF will arrive today give my temp, but I do wonder what's going on with my body. Thoughts? *side note, H and I did DTD for the first time since the surgery the night/morning before the forgotten temp so I suppose cervix irritation is a possibility and the cramping could be uterus irritation.

I agree with the sex = irritation possibility. Honestly I would probably enter no temp for yesterday bc there's no way to know that it is accurate, and it's not crucial given the timing within your cycle. I would also say AF is probably not coming today bc of your temp.

What is your typical LP length? The cramping may be a new symptom that AF is on her way in the next couple of days. With the surgery & medically shortened previous cycle, I think it is highly possible this cycle will be a little wonky so I wouldn't stress it too much. Will you guys be off the bench for your next cycle?

blackbird818 · January 2015

@whitneyandconcep (((hugs))) for cd1 hun. I was chart stalking you before I hopped on TB and was going to PM you.

BB prescribes lots of wine and chocolate.

firefly143 · January 2015

Cd 24/ no O detected

Can I just O already???

This is only my second cycle using OPKS and last cycle I didn't get a positive. Could you lovely ladies confirm my positive OPKS for me?
Picture included

TowerClimbersWife · January 2015

Hey All.

I echo the laughs for weinerschnitzel. I can never remember the name for O Pain either.

@meredithcarole Sorry about your CM coming in good for you with TTA.
@heartbot Boo on your O not being confirmed yet. I would keep up with the OPK since it seems that has been a good indicator in the past.

@whitneyandconcep OMG! Love your gif!!!

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AFM:
Crazy level from 1-10: 4

CD/DPO: 14/0

Can I just ______ already?!: Figure out these OPK's

Signs/Symptoms: Feeling the CM ramp up, which is a good sign. Two days ago I got a stark white OPK, yesterday it was faint. Today is faint (but maybe a little darker), but so is the control line. WTF? I'm starting to hate these and I've only peed on a couple. Everyone says not to read them after the time frame, but within the time frame I don't think the dye is working, since when I check them after say 10 minutes, both lines are more clear - meaning the control is more like a control line and the test line is at least complete (if still slight). So I'm thinking I need to wait a little while longer to read them before making a definitive interpretation. Otherwise, I had a rocking headache yesterday. Also, my Doc is having me start progesterone creme after O. He said I don't have to confirm O before starting it, but I want to just in case.

Explain your Crazy here: Just wanting to get the hang on the OPK and temping. I have issues with waking up at night because of my dogs, so if I know I've slept for more than a couple hours I temp. Sometimes that is at 3:30am and sometimes it is more like 5 or 6am. So I get open circles. I'm hoping it doesn't mess with accuracy. Chart Stalk or anyone else have variable waking and temping times?? Insight would be helpful.

megrae12 · January 2015

I don't particularly have any crazy. Basically, H and I talked and we were trying to figure out when I would O this cycle. Last cycle was CD15 (amazeballs) and the cycle before that was around CD20ish? We are both going to be out of town next weekend, which, if I go by the last two previous cycles, puts me right smack dab in the middle of FW (assuming I O earlier rather than later). Should be exciting stuff. I dunno if I can handle another cycle of abysmal timing (even if I have zero hope of a BFP on my own). So anyway, who wants to take bets on when my FW will likely be? I feel like it's Russian Roulette at this point.

Also, Hi @blackbird818

blackbird818 · January 2015

firefly143 said:

Cd 24/ no O detected Can I just O already??? This is only my second cycle using OPKS and last cycle I didn't get a positive. Could you lovely ladies confirm my positive OPKS for me? Picture included

I'm not the best at interpreting OPKs; I don't use them bc of my PCOS they are not an accurate tool for me. I will say it's kinda hard to accurately read them from a pic on the internet bc of glare/computer screen variation. Test line looks slightly lighter to me. *shrug* Hopefully some other ladies with more opk expereince can weigh in on that.

From looking at your chart though, I do see fertile CM on cd22 & 23. But no temps (23-24) and no OPKs (since cd20). Why is that? I mean honestly it's possible you O'd in that window of time and missed confirmation.

firefly143 · January 2015

@blackbird818‌ For some reason my ff app hasn't been syncing with the website. I'll go in and fix it! Sorry!

blackbird818 · January 2015

megrae12 said:

I don't particularly have any crazy. Basically, H and I talked and we were trying to figure out when I would O this cycle. Last cycle was CD15 (amazeballs) and the cycle before that was around CD20ish? We are both going to be out of town next weekend, which, if I go by the last two previous cycles, puts me right smack dab in the middle of FW (assuming I O earlier rather than later). Should be exciting stuff. I dunno if I can handle another cycle of abysmal timing (even if I have zero hope of a BFP on my own). So anyway, who wants to take bets on when my FW will likely be? I feel like it's Russian Roulette at this point.

Also, Hi @blackbird818

Well, I don't know....I'd say you're pretty crazy

I can relate to just wanting a fucking chance in hell even if you don't have much hope it'll turn into a BFP. (((hugs))) sweet friend. txt me if you need me.

megrae12 · January 2015

blackbird818 said:

megrae12 said:

I don't particularly have any crazy. Basically, H and I talked and we were trying to figure out when I would O this cycle. Last cycle was CD15 (amazeballs) and the cycle before that was around CD20ish? We are both going to be out of town next weekend, which, if I go by the last two previous cycles, puts me right smack dab in the middle of FW (assuming I O earlier rather than later). Should be exciting stuff. I dunno if I can handle another cycle of abysmal timing (even if I have zero hope of a BFP on my own). So anyway, who wants to take bets on when my FW will likely be? I feel like it's Russian Roulette at this point.

Also, Hi @blackbird818

Well, I don't know....I'd say you're pretty crazy

I can relate to just wanting a fucking chance in hell even if you don't have much hope it'll turn into a BFP. (((hugs))) sweet friend. txt me if you need me.

What is that saying? Takes one to know one?

You know I will holla at ya.

TowerClimbersWife · January 2015

@heartbot said:

@TowerClimbersWife said:

AFM:
Crazy level from 1-10: 4

CD/DPO: 14/0

Can I just ______ already?!: Figure out these OPK's

Signs/Symptoms: Feeling the CM ramp up, which is a good sign. Two days ago I got a stark white OPK, yesterday it was faint. Today is faint (but maybe a little darker), but so is the control line. WTF? I'm starting to hate these and I've only peed on a couple. Everyone says not to read them after the time frame, but within the time frame I don't think the dye is working, since when I check them after say 10 minutes, both lines are more clear - meaning the control is more like a control line and the test line is at least complete (if still slight). So I'm thinking I need to wait a little while longer to read them before making a definitive interpretation. Otherwise, I had a rocking headache yesterday. Also, my Doc is having me start progesterone creme after O. He said I don't have to confirm O before starting it, but I want to just in case.

Explain your Crazy here: Just wanting to get the hang on the OPK and temping. I have issues with waking up at night because of my dogs, so if I know I've slept for more than a couple hours I temp. Sometimes that is at 3:30am and sometimes it is more like 5 or 6am. So I get open circles. I'm hoping it doesn't mess with accuracy. Chart Stalk or anyone else have variable waking and temping times?? Insight would be helpful.

I've had some of my older OPKs suddenly start not showing the control line until like 2 minutes after it gets dipped. They aren't anywhere near their expiration date, so I've wondered if it's due to some sort of weather change. Or maybe it's just a shitty batch. What brand are you using? For the variable temp times, I'd try your best to keep it at the same time. That matters less than waking up in the middle of the night to pee or take care of animals or what have you. I would say any time between 5 and 6 would be good, if that's the time you normally get up? Because a range of 3:30-6 will make your chart messy and unreliable. Hope you get your O soon!

Thanks for the insight on the temping & OPKs. I use Wondfo and they expire in April of this year. Figure I'll keep peeing on them until they are gone. I'm discouraged with the temping because our dogs usually get us up at least once a night. Usually around 3:30am. Then I might wake up around 5 or 6. Sounds like you are saying that it is better to get less sleep between waking and temping than to temp at 3:30am when the dogs get me up. I've also tried to remember to temp both times to see if there is a significant change, but don't always remember. Thanks again!!

I'm thinking I need to up my crazy number... because this is frustrating!

blackbird818 · January 2015

megrae12 said:

blackbird818 said:

megrae12 said:

I don't particularly have any crazy. Basically, H and I talked and we were trying to figure out when I would O this cycle. Last cycle was CD15 (amazeballs) and the cycle before that was around CD20ish? We are both going to be out of town next weekend, which, if I go by the last two previous cycles, puts me right smack dab in the middle of FW (assuming I O earlier rather than later). Should be exciting stuff. I dunno if I can handle another cycle of abysmal timing (even if I have zero hope of a BFP on my own). So anyway, who wants to take bets on when my FW will likely be? I feel like it's Russian Roulette at this point.

Also, Hi @blackbird818

Well, I don't know....I'd say you're pretty crazy

I can relate to just wanting a fucking chance in hell even if you don't have much hope it'll turn into a BFP. (((hugs))) sweet friend. txt me if you need me.

What is that saying? Takes one to know one? You know I will holla at ya.

Lol

blackbird818 · January 2015

TowerClimbersWife said:

@heartbot said:

@TowerClimbersWife said:

AFM:
Crazy level from 1-10: 4

CD/DPO: 14/0

Can I just ______ already?!: Figure out these OPK's

Signs/Symptoms: Feeling the CM ramp up, which is a good sign. Two days ago I got a stark white OPK, yesterday it was faint. Today is faint (but maybe a little darker), but so is the control line. WTF? I'm starting to hate these and I've only peed on a couple. Everyone says not to read them after the time frame, but within the time frame I don't think the dye is working, since when I check them after say 10 minutes, both lines are more clear - meaning the control is more like a control line and the test line is at least complete (if still slight). So I'm thinking I need to wait a little while longer to read them before making a definitive interpretation. Otherwise, I had a rocking headache yesterday. Also, my Doc is having me start progesterone creme after O. He said I don't have to confirm O before starting it, but I want to just in case.

Explain your Crazy here: Just wanting to get the hang on the OPK and temping. I have issues with waking up at night because of my dogs, so if I know I've slept for more than a couple hours I temp. Sometimes that is at 3:30am and sometimes it is more like 5 or 6am. So I get open circles. I'm hoping it doesn't mess with accuracy. Chart Stalk or anyone else have variable waking and temping times?? Insight would be helpful.

I've had some of my older OPKs suddenly start not showing the control line until like 2 minutes after it gets dipped. They aren't anywhere near their expiration date, so I've wondered if it's due to some sort of weather change. Or maybe it's just a shitty batch. What brand are you using? For the variable temp times, I'd try your best to keep it at the same time. That matters less than waking up in the middle of the night to pee or take care of animals or what have you. I would say any time between 5 and 6 would be good, if that's the time you normally get up? Because a range of 3:30-6 will make your chart messy and unreliable. Hope you get your O soon!

Thanks for the insight on the temping & OPKs. I use Wondfo and they expire in April of this year. Figure I'll keep peeing on them until they are gone. I'm discouraged with the temping because our dogs usually get us up at least once a night. Usually around 3:30am. Then I might wake up around 5 or 6. Sounds like you are saying that it is better to get less sleep between waking and temping than to temp at 3:30am when the dogs get me up. I've also tried to remember to temp both times to see if there is a significant change, but don't always remember. Thanks again!!

I'm thinking I need to up my crazy number... because this is frustrating!

Actually you should get 3-4 hours continuous sleep before temping. So if your dogs get you up around 3:30am everyday then that is when you should temp.

NOBB14 · January 2015

@heartbot dying at weinerschnitzel. reminds me a of a movie I watched with Kate Hudson where she referred to o time as sushi night!!

TowerClimbersWife · January 2015

I'm ditching my super long quote box... since I like to process things aloud - which equals long posts for me.

@blackbird818 I wondered that, but FF says to not temp in the middle of the night. I wonder if I should interpret that differently because I then don't always get 3-4 hours in after waking at 3:30am.

I think what I'll try to do is take a temp at 3:30 or whenever the dogs get us up, then take a temp again when I wake for the morning and see if there is any difference. Now, I don't know what the fuck I'll do if there is a difference. I guess take the one that most closely matches the majority of my times?

meredithcarole · January 2015

@blackbird818‌ yeah, I think I will drop yesterday's temp. I am on the bench until March at least. My normal (or at least my post MC normal) LP is about 12 days. I do tend to spot a day or two before. You're right though, my cycle probably won't be normal for another month or 2 (hense the bench, I suppose). Sigh. I thought being on the bench meant I wouldn't try to analyze things! Wrong!

@TowerClimbersWife‌ you got EWCM so that's good. See what happens over the next 2 days and HIO in the meantime.

@firefly143‌ I would call it possitive.

blackbird818 · January 2015

TowerClimbersWife said:

I'm ditching my super long quote box... since I like to process things aloud - which equals long posts for me.

@blackbird818 I wondered that, but FF says to not temp in the middle of the night. I wonder if I should interpret that differently because I then don't always get 3-4 hours in after waking at 3:30am.

I think what I'll try to do is take a temp at 3:30 or whenever the dogs get us up, then take a temp again when I wake for the morning and see if there is any difference. Now, I don't know what the fuck I'll do if there is a difference. I guess take the one that most closely matches the majority of my times?

You should use the earlier temp. Temping (for ex at 5:30am) after you were up with the dogs at ~3:30 will be falsely high. Basically, FF prefers you temp at a similar/consistent time each day with a 3-4hr time period of continuous sleep beforehand. That gives you the most accurate temp. Obviously, we are human and not robots so this will vary some. It will also vary from person to person. You have to decide what works best with your schedule.

Temping twice is going to cause more crazy for you. Believe me I've seen ladies on the CT debating which one to go with especially around O time.

NOBB14 · January 2015

Hey ladies! I'm baaaack!

Crazy level from 1-10: 8

CD/DPO: 28/8

Can I just ______ already?!: fast forward to a pretty chart!

Signs/Symptoms: holy irritability, batman! But that could just be from trigger responses the past few days that have worn on me. I also have sore boobs and an off/on killer headache, but of course it could be from impending AF due Monday.

Explain your Crazy here: thank you all so much for your input the other day about not wiping my chart info! I've since entered approximate miscarriage date and have continued temping (and OPKing because they'll be expiring soon anyway.) I had a .3 dip yesterday that is back up that same .3 today- I'm driving myself crazy googling what it means. I know that since I've only started temping on Monday that this could very well be normal for me and I'm only confirming it now, but of course I have hope that this cycle is *the one*. I just wish I had the presence of mind to begin temping long ago. I have some concerns about staying calm in the next week; last month, second cycle post d&c, I was a few days late, and it absolutely drove me bonkers to see negative after negative HPT until AF came (after my first loss I resumed a normal cycle and had never previously been irregular. I always knew it was a possibility, but the lateness really shook me.) Im just hoping that, if this isn't my cycle, I'll know quickly to ease the stress.

I just feel like such a data monster. I keep starting at my damn temps as if it's a crystal ball which is ridiculous at this point, since I have no previous point of reference. Waaaah.

renegadewhit · January 2015

TowerClimbersWife said:

I'm ditching my super long quote box... since I like to process things aloud - which equals long posts for me.

@blackbird818 I wondered that, but FF says to not temp in the middle of the night. I wonder if I should interpret that differently because I then don't always get 3-4 hours in after waking at 3:30am.

I think what I'll try to do is take a temp at 3:30 or whenever the dogs get us up, then take a temp again when I wake for the morning and see if there is any difference. Now, I don't know what the fuck I'll do if there is a difference. I guess take the one that most closely matches the majority of my times?

I'll weigh in on this. I wake up between 2 and 3:30 every night. Seriously, every night. I thought it was a good time to temp. However, even with variations between 15-45 minutes (since it wasn't the exact same time) my chart was rocky. This cycle I switched to 5am, when DH get's up and set an alarm. Even with getting up in the middle of the night, it seems my chart has leveled out a little bit. I still have some open circles from holidays/drinking nights/forgot to set the alarm on weekends, but other than those, it's pretty consistent.

I literally wake up, temp, then roll over and go back to sleep. DH doesn't even wake up on weekends. Whether you do middle of the night or 5-6am, I would definitely set an alarm and make sure it's the exact same time every night, because that does make a difference.

renegadewhit · January 2015

blackbird818 said:

@whitneyandconcep (((hugs))) for cd1 hun. I was chart stalking you before I hopped on TB and was going to PM you.
BB prescribes lots of wine and chocolate.

Icing on the cake - my furnace went out last night. It's 45 degrees in my house (with the space heater on in the room I'm in). Is it too early to start drinking now?

TowerClimbersWife · January 2015

@whitneyandconcep said:

blackbird818 said:

@whitneyandconcep (((hugs))) for cd1 hun. I was chart stalking you before I hopped on TB and was going to PM you.
BB prescribes lots of wine and chocolate.

Icing on the cake - my furnace went out last night. It's 45 degrees in my house (with the space heater on in the room I'm in). Is it too early to start drinking now?

It is never too early in our house...
:P

NOBB14 · January 2015

@whitneyandconcep‌ oh no!!! Considering it's Friday and your furnace is out, I think starting to drink to stay warm and kick off the weekend is a necessity. Fx it gets fixed soon!

meredithcarole · January 2015

whitneyandconcep said:

TowerClimbersWife said:

I'm ditching my super long quote box... since I like to process things aloud - which equals long posts for me.

@blackbird818 I wondered that, but FF says to not temp in the middle of the night. I wonder if I should interpret that differently because I then don't always get 3-4 hours in after waking at 3:30am.

I think what I'll try to do is take a temp at 3:30 or whenever the dogs get us up, then take a temp again when I wake for the morning and see if there is any difference. Now, I don't know what the fuck I'll do if there is a difference. I guess take the one that most closely matches the majority of my times?

I'll weigh in on this. I wake up between 2 and 3:30 every night. Seriously, every night. I thought it was a good time to temp. However, even with variations between 15-45 minutes (since it wasn't the exact same time) my chart was rocky. This cycle I switched to 5am, when DH get's up and set an alarm. Even with getting up in the middle of the night, it seems my chart has leveled out a little bit. I still have some open circles from holidays/drinking nights/forgot to set the alarm on weekends, but other than those, it's pretty consistent.

I literally wake up, temp, then roll over and go back to sleep. DH doesn't even wake up on weekends. Whether you do middle of the night or 5-6am, I would definitely set an alarm and make sure it's the exact same time every night, because that does make a difference.

I agree. I wake up in the middle of the night somewhat frequently, but I only temp if I am going to get up. Otherwise I do it at my normal time.

firefly143 · January 2015

Thank you for your input ladies I greatly appreciate it!

bumpuser10605721 · January 2015

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO: 7

Can I just ______ already?!: bite the bullet and make up my mind to start temping again

Signs/Symptoms: Nada, but not expecting anything until next week anyway

Explain your Crazy here: I've been fighting with myself for a few weeks now to start temping, but then also telling myself to just hold off, and try not to get all charting cra cra. When we were TTC before the BFP we then lost I had a friend tell me I was to obsessive with just my OPK's! and she was all "just don't think about it". I really do want to chart with temps because I like knowing things for sure, but Im not 100% if I should bother because my sleep is interrupted occasionally.

TowerClimbersWife · January 2015

And.... re-tested my OPK. WAY WAY positive. I had some pain near my left ovary. That is what made me think to test again. I can't recall ever having that pain before... kind of cool.

blackbird818 · January 2015

TowerClimbersWife said:

And.... re-tested my OPK. WAY WAY positive. I had some pain near my left ovary. That is what made me think to test again. I can't recall ever having that pain before... kind of cool.

I don't know how "busy" ya'll have been (not showing on your chart) but it's time to get with it!!!! Happy BDing!!!

negritosmami · January 2015

Lmfaoo @I knew it was weiner schnitzel!!yaay for the positive opk...good luck @heartbot‌

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