Sleep Question Thread

Re: Sleep Question Thread

• BeachM member

  January 2015

  In my experience they don't learn to sleep past the 45 minute mark unless they fall asleep on their own in the first place. DS2 has been able to do this without needing to be taught or with crying. DS1 needed to be taught and it took about 2 weeks of some crying while we did checks (Ferber).
  
  No experience with pick up/put down. It works great for some and just pisses off others. You won't know until you try it.

  

  
  
  
  

  
  

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• SoSayWeAll member

  January 2015 edited January 2015

  @Kandreas1‌ That's funny that we both did that! Are you doing pick up put down at night also or just naps?
  ETA: I am interested in that link if you don't mind

  

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• SoSayWeAll member

  January 2015

  @BeachM‌ With your DS1 did you work on putting him down awake at night first, at naps first, or both? What age did you start doing this?

  

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• belle785 member

  January 2015

  With DS1 around 8-9 months I did pick up put down for naps. Took about a week and we were good but I used white noise too as a signal that it was nap time. Used CIO for bedtime and night wakings. Once he was sleeping better at night, his naps got longer. He would only sleep about 30-45 mins. After he slept thru the night we would get at least 1-1.5 hours for naps until he went to 1 nap.

  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

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• Eena1242 member

  January 2015

  You and I have similar night schedules (bed around 7, awake around 6:30). I have found that he needs to go down for his first nap no later than 8:15. If I wait too long after this, all his naps are crappy and short for the remainder of the day. Sometimes daycare will misread his sleepy cues for hunger cues, and that really throws his whole day off. His morning and evening naps are usually about 45 minutes, but his mid-day nap usually lasts about 1.5-2 hours. For what it's worth, we are strict with the eat, play, sleep routine and I think that helps too because before he was a really terrible napper. We also play white noise at every nap, and when he hears that he instantly becomes drowsy. It's an app on an old phone, and they play it for him at daycare too, so I think the consistency helps.
  
  We have tried the pickup/ put down method, and it just made him grumpy for the rest of the day. So, not very successful for us.
  
  Sorry if that's a lot of rambling.

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• SoSayWeAll member

  January 2015

  Kandreas1 said:

  @SoSayWeAll‌ Nights I don't usually need to. I do bath, feed, story then rock for a couple minutes and sing and he's super drowsy I put him down and he's good. Middle of the night he eats and falls asleep on the breast usually. I can't remember if you BF or not. But before I use to do bath, story, then eat and it was a continuous pick up put down game. Once I switched the schedule he falls asleep better.

  
  @Kandreas1‌ I do BF/pump at work. It's weird because I always used to nurse him to sleep and he doesn't want that anymore; he wants to eat and then be rocked to sleep. I think I am going to try putting him down more and more awake at night and then work on naps once I put him down drowsy at night.

  

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• SoSayWeAll member

  January 2015

  @Eena1242 I can definitely relate to DC mistaking sleepy cues for hunger. I think if that continues to be an issue when he goes back Monday I am going to have DH talk to them. Sometimes I feel like they respond to his suggestions better than mine.

  

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• Eena1242 member

  January 2015

  @SoSayWeAll‌ I always ask H to talk to DC too. I'm terrible at verbal communication.

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• becominggold member

  January 2015

  I have been reading a lot about sleep training and sleep in general. Here is my dilemma...I don't need to sleep train as far as getting LO to bed. That's usually not a problem....so far, knock on wood ...haha. It's all the night wake ups that are for things like being rolled over, the paci, sometimes a little rocking...not usually. He usually goes right back to sleep but on a bad night this could happen 6-7x. I have tried waiting a few minutes when I hear him fuss, but if I don't go in it is a full out cry. He does eat once MOTN but I can usually tell when that is what he needs based on the time. Should I let him actually cry for a couple min and see what happens? Is there a way to sleep train for this?

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• RedBean84 member

  January 2015

  @becominggold my LO was doing the constant night wakings as well. She would wake about 7 times a night and all she wanted was to be held and rocked.  I was getting no sleep and she was miserable as well.  After about 4-5 weeks of hardly any sleep, I decided that I would not pick her up if she was waking just to be rocked.  Obviously, if she was waking to eat I fed her, but if she was waking just for rocking, I would put her paci back in, rub her head and hum a lullaby then leave. It took one night of hell, and she hasn't had any non-eating night wakings since. It was really tough to do, but I knew that picking her up and rocking her was just continuing the cycle. We are both well rested now and she is happier.

  

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• becominggold member

  January 2015

  @weeklyplanner‌ He falls asleep with a lovie and a paci. When you say on his own, do you mean without those things either? So then maybe I do need some going to bed training Also, he does not usually eat until 4 am and then goes back down until 7-8. Most of the wakeups usually occur before the feed.
  
  @RedBean84‌ that's interesting. We don't rock every time, but I think not doing it at all would he an easy step to take.

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• leannerivers member

  January 2015 edited January 2015

  I haven't done this but my sleep coach said if they typically wake up at a certain time like clockwork to feed, then wake them up 15 mins before that time so that you are controlling the wakings. These babies are smart and totally have us wrapped around their fingers. But idk if your LO is waking up that much. You could try waiting 15 mins of crying and see what happens. I used to do this and my girl would just fall asleep. Anything past 15 mins i would go get her.

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• Elaina22 member

  January 2015

  RedBean84 said:

  @becominggold my LO was doing the constant night wakings as well. She would wake about 7 times a night and all she wanted was to be held and rocked.  I was getting no sleep and she was miserable as well.  After about 4-5 weeks of hardly any sleep, I decided that I would not pick her up if she was waking just to be rocked.  Obviously, if she was waking to eat I fed her, but if she was waking just for rocking, I would put her paci back in, rub her head and hum a lullaby then leave. It took one night of hell, and she hasn't had any non-eating night wakings since. It was really tough to do, but I knew that picking her up and rocking her was just continuing the cycle. We are both well rested now and she is happier.

  I also only pick up LO if I know it's time to eat. If she is just fussing, I give her a paci, pat her belly and "Shh". She was waking a lot within the first hour or two of sleep and when we stopped picking her up, she stopped waking. Most nights she only wakes to eat now.

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• BeachM member

  January 2015

  SoSayWeAll said:

  @BeachM‌ With your DS1 did you work on putting him down awake at night first, at naps first, or both? What age did you start doing this?

  He always went down awake at night but that's because he would squirm and twist until we put him in the crib.
  
  He napped in the swing until we went cold turkey to the crib at 4.5 months. He went down wide awake and it took 2 weeks of a consistent nap routine before he could put himself to sleep. After that he was a fantastic napper.
  

  

  
  
  
  

  
  

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