June 2015 Moms

Advice on friendship

Hello everyone was hoping for some non pregnancy related advice cos I'm lost and at my end.

My best friend of 24 years until June was the straightest person I would ever know, at 26 she was saving for her retirement hated alcohol and drugs and was so focused and ambitious. She truly was such a boring and beautiful person to be around. She was always going to be the god parent of our child and the one to take our children if anything happened to myself or my husband.

Back track to February 14, she met this girl (she is a lesbian) was unsure if she wanted to pursue it as she'd just come out of a 7yr relationship and the girl had no job, no car no nothing. I encouraged her to use her as a companion and rebound just for fun to help her move on. If only I had a crystal ball.

I returned home from workig away for 6 months in June to try and catch up with her and every time I attempted she was busy. After 4 months (october) I told her I was pretty hurt that in 4 months she didn't have a spare hour. She then said I could go over for 1 hour. I went over, she's now a heavy weed user, her house is totally trashed and she has a black eye (apparently she slipped in the bathroom). Everytime someone has seen her she has bruises and black eyes from slipping over. In this conversation I had she was telling me about how her partner self medicates her diagnosed bipolar with weed and how she's very abusive. I offered my friend an out and a place to live if she ever needed and gave her a key to our house which she refused.

Now fast forward to January, I text her the same message every week "hi how are you ?? Miss you can't wait to catch up xx" it never gets responded to, she has texted 3 times since October asking for $100 each time ( she has lost her job, has no savings left, her house has been foreclosed and is currently declaring bankruptcy). I've given her the money each time even though I know it's for drugs but if I don't she will get the money some other way and end up with a record. I saw her at the shops with her drop kick partner and was excited to see her (and sad as she acknowledged my pregnancy text with oh ok can I borrow some money?) she created us with a ffs to her partner, told me she was busy and had to go and her partner screamed in the shops to us as we walked off " you f-ing dog c---" whilst we don't like her partner we have never said a single thing to her or my friend about not liking her.

So come to now, what do I do? I don't want to give up but it's pretty upsetting everytime I text she never responds. I don't want to give up on her for the day she decides she's had enough and needs a way out but the person I know now has no chance of being the person to be our child's godmother. What do I do? Do I just stop texting? Do I confront her? Do I keep texting? She's in a hard place but I just feel so hurt but hesitatnt to give up on 24 years..


( her family and I are very close. She no longer communicates with them or I and hasn't done since October aswell) Sorry for the long post everyone

Re: Advice on friendship

  • I can tell you that she has to be the one to want to change; you can not help her. By giving her money, you are enabling the problem. Distance yourself and be there if she ever finds herself wanting change. Be prepared for this relationship to be done; she may be perfectly happy in her current situation.
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  • I think you should distance yourself from this friend and just let her come to you when she's ready. Stop reaching out, because it's obviously not working. You can't save somebody that doesn't want to be saved.
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  • You can be her friend by not giving her money. It sounds like she is in a desperate situation. Her partner is probably possessive, paranoid and jealous of your relationship with her & is preventing her from seeing/responding to you. I've never been in this situation but let her know that you'll be there to help when she does try and claw her way out of this scary situation
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  • Thanks all, I think your confirmed what I was thinkin but wasn't sure if it was the right move. She's not the person who we want around our child and I've already offered her a safe haven should she need it. Cut my ties and move on.. Totally sucks but going to be more important people in out lives come June..
  • I think you should try to get together one more time, and lay it out straight. Tell her what you told us (minus the part about being godmother - make it clear your concerns are about her, not you and how this situation impacts her life, not yours). Then step back and don't give her money, but respond when she reaches out by saying you can't give money but are always there if she needs a place or an ear. My best friend has gotten me through rough times, but also given me enough room to make my own decisions. We vowed never to leave each other in a bad situation. It is her choice and you have no control, but it sounds like you want to do something more and haven't spoken up yet, so maybe it's worth a try. Heartbreaking story though. Good luck, and I hope it works out for her eventually. You may also consider calling an abuse hotline and see what they say. That is a particularly scary part of this story.
  • I'm no expert on anything like this. I'm sorry you are going through this.

    Don't give her any more money. Do let her know that you will be there for her in emotional support when she's ready to be your friend again. Friendship is a two-way street and you can't put all of your energy into a relationship and get only hurt in return. And you certainly don't need to raise your little one seeing the unhealthy relationship and she has with her girlfriend, and that she's cultivating with you right now.

    My ex husband smoked A LOT of weed. While I enjoyed it too, it got to a point where he spent $15,000 of his mother's death benefit in 2 months without telling me. That's a lot of weed (though I don't think it was limited to weed...). It grew to be that I could only stand to be in his presence when we were both high. We didn't have sex for the last seven years of our marriage. I was also using pot to medicate myself for a too-low dosage of my antidepressant combined with a skin disease for which there is no cure or treatment. I found myself smoking during the work day (I'm a teacher) daily. I decided that I couldn't continue to live with him in "roommate only" status, that I wanted children, and I didn't want them with him (nor did I want to have sex with him in order to have children). We divorced and he is still up to his lazy ass status and I have never been more sure of my decision.

    However, I continued to smoke all of my extra money away and had to borrow from friendsand relatives. Even though I wasn't using the money given to me to buy the weed, I was using it to pay bills I couldn't pay because I had already used my money on weed. People say weed is not addictive, but for me, it was very mentally addictive. It took a probation officer friend finding out and threatening to turn me in to my school district to get me to get off of it. I scheduled an appointment with my psychiatrist and my therapist and came clean with them. We came up with a plan and I've stuck with it. I probably think about smoking every day and I do miss it. However, I have a lot more money in my bank accounts, I'm breathing better, and I feel a lot more clear-headed. I never would have been able to stop if I had stayed in my terrible previous marriage.

    I'm afraid it's going to take something drastic for your friend to stop acting in this way. She is surely being controlled by this other woman, and it's hard to get out of any abusive and unhealthy relationship.

    Sorry I'm not any help. I wish you the best of luck and I do hope your friend turns her life around.
  • I will add this- there were SO MANY times I didn't call or flat out avoided my friends because I didn't want to have these conversations with them. I was embarrassed that I had even gotten myself into that mess. She may be feeling the same way.
  • Keep texting, expect that she won't reply, stop giving her money and keep her in your heart and prayers so that if she decides to get her act together you can be there for her. She may need to hit rock bottom to get her to wake up which means not having you as an ATM - sorry you're going through this...don't shut her out but you need to do something I learned about in AlAnon - called detachment with love...it is much harder to do than to advise, but it does help!
  • AmyCee said:
    Keep texting, expect that she won't reply, stop giving her money and keep her in your heart and prayers so that if she decides to get her act together you can be there for her. She may need to hit rock bottom to get her to wake up which means not having you as an ATM - sorry you're going through this...don't shut her out but you need to do something I learned about in AlAnon - called detachment with love...it is much harder to do than to advise, but it does help!
    This exactly. Make it known that you're there for her if she decides to get clean and get help, but stop giving her money and putting yourself in situations where you're just bound to get hurt. 

    Sorry, this situation sucks a lot and it must hurt to see her going through this!

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  • I agree with PPs as well. I think you need to stop giving her money and also if your afraid she will realize that she wants to get your life back together im SURE she will always know she can come to you for advice or anything for that matter, you've been a true friend and I'm sure she won't forget that
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