TTC After a Loss

4th time's a charm? Losses mentioned.

I am new to the board and just wanted to surround myself with some women who may be going through what I am. I actually posted this in another group and was told this group would be a better fit for the post.

I found out last Saturday that I was pregnant, and on Christmas I had another miscarriage. This is my 3rd MC. We have been trying for about 1.5 years. I first got pregnant in March, then again around August, and again in late November. They've all been early MC's.

It's hard. I am young and healthy, and I don't understand why this keeps happening. I'm sick of people telling me to stop stressing out because once I stop thinking about it, "it'll happen." I want to smack people who tell me that. Don't you?

I am finally going to a fertility specialist on Jan. 15th to see what she has to say.

How do you girls cope with this stuff? It's so, so hard. And I'm not getting any younger. I feel like a failure as a woman, you know? This is what we are here for...to reproduce and keep things going. I can't even do that for my husband, who also wants a baby so badly. I know, trust me...I KNOW that I am lucky that I can get pregnant. Before March, I was starting to wonder if I was even fertile. So yay, at least I can get there. But why can't I STAY there? I've had my hormones checked and they are normal. I actually read a statistic (and it could be wrong..) that only ONE percent of women miscarry 3+ times in a row. If that's true, how did I end up in that tiny statistic? :'( I'm wondering if maybe my uterus is thin or there is another physical thing going on. So far, according to my OB/GYN, everything is normal. I am counting down the days to when I see the specialist.

Also, for those who have gone to a fertility specialist for early miscarriages, what should I expect? I am sure it varies based on the situation, but I am going in blindly. Do they actually DO anything at the first appointment? I don't want to waste more time than my actual OB/GYN has made me waste (long story short, he's getting the boot). Thoughts?

Thank you!!

Re: 4th time's a charm? Losses mentioned.

  • I'm so sorry for your losses. The feelings of failure and irritation at people's reactions is so familiar to many of us. It's hard when people don't know what to say, and end up saying the completely wrong thing.
    Very likely, at your first RE appointment, they'll get a history and do a physical exam, plus/minus ultrasound. For me, after my third MC, I had a ton of blood tests done (aka 17 vials) to rule out a variety of diseases that could be causing my MC. They may also do a counsyl genetic profile on you (possibly YH as well depending on your results).
    Take care of yourself in this difficult time. ((hugs))
    Married 07/2006, TTC since 2010
    08/2011: Clomid 50mg, IUI --> BFN  ,
    10/2011: Clomid 100mg, IUI --> BFN

    04/13: Clomid, IUI BFP --> MC at 6w1d
    05/13: Femara 2.5mg, IUI --> BFN  , 08/13: Femara 2.5mg --> BFN
    03/14: Femara 5mg, IUI --> 1 follicle @ 27d --> BFP! EDD 12/02/14--> blighted ovum, missed MC 6w6d --> D&C
    4/23: D&C...starting over again, with a little part of my heart broken off
    5/31: Femara 7.5mg --> cancelled cycle, no follies
    7/14: Femara 5mg + brevelle + menopur + IUI --> converted to IVF, ER 7/28 --> ET cancelled due to severe OHSS.
    9/20/14:  Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP--> EDD 6/6/15 --> MC at 5w3d 
     
    10/16/14: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFN
    2/6/15: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP --> MC at 5w4d
    3/20/16: PGS-tested Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP, Living Child born 12/1/15
    6/6/17: Fresh IVF Cycle --> Severe OHSS, 5 PGS-tested embryos frozen
    2/23/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
    3/30/18: Cancelled cycle due to lining 4.2mm
    6/21/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
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  • Welcome.  I"m sorry you have to be here.  I have had 3 consecutive early losses (been trying for over 2 years).   After my 3rd I went to a RE.  We went through all the testing and the conclusion was "unexplained infertility".  We just started our 3rd round of fertility treatments.  I think that seeing a RE is a great idea! 

    Again, welcome to the board!
  • Welcome to the board! I'm very sorry for your losses. I have no experience with an RE but wish you luck at your upcoming appointment and that you find a plan you and DH are comfortable with.  I know what you mean about feeling like a failure, it is easy to think that way.  Lots of ((hugs)).  I hope that you find the support you need here.
    Me: 26 DH:28
    TTC - Sept 2014
    # 1 BFP - October 5, 2014 EDD June 5, 2015 CP - October 14, 2014


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  • Thank you girls so much! @bluedaisy0627‌, I don't know if she's an RE to be honest. I was referred to her by someone who was also having issues getting pregnant and loved her. My OB/GYN did the HSG and bloodwork, and my hubs got tested as well. My tubes weren't blocked, but i did get pregnant immediately after the procedure (that was MC #2). According to my ob, my hormones are all normal. I also had an ultrasound around the time of ovulation to make sure everything looks good, and it did. Everything is totally normal as far as I've been told after testing.

    I do have a cyst or two, but they told me it's not PCOS. They also said it shouldn't have an impact on my getting of staying pregnant. So that's why I'm so lost. Everything looks textbook perfect, yet it's not happening. It's so hard. I just hope the specialist can look at all of my precious tests and tell me what SHE thinks. I don't care for my ob anymore, so his opinion is useless to me now lol
  • So sorry for your losses. Welcome.

    For my first RE appointment the lead up paperwork was very detailed. She talked to me about what my concerns were. She went over her initial thoughts. We did an ultrasound and a lot of blood work (they tried to get 14 vials, but I started getting faint around vial 9 so we did the rest on CD3 - they can only measure your FSH between CD2 and CD4 so it is often done on the 3rd day). Once all testing results come in they will sit down and make a plan with you. For RPL testing I think there are some additional things they do, but I am not familiar enough to tell you what.

    As for how you deal with everything? This board has been very helpful. I also saw a counselor for a bit. It is hard to deal with loss like this because not everyone in real life sees it as the heartbreak it is.
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    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

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  • I'm so sorry for your losses but welcome. If you want great support and are willing to give some support as well, this is the best place you'd never want to be (I so stole that from another lady here).

    The frustrations you're feeling are normal. I am in a similar situation, be married 2 years and I just experienced my 3rd loss this October. It sucks to be in the situation and it's hard when people say things that seem insensitive.

    I also have my first RE appointment in January, on the 21st. I hope your appointment goes well and you can get some answers *hug*
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  • Oh, honey. You're in the right place. Many of us have unexplained losses. And, even in those instances where a "reason" is found, we still struggle with many of the feelings you've mentioned.

    I've had 4 losses since November 2013 (see my siggy). I started seeing a reproductive endocrinologist after my 3rd loss. Then I went on to have one more. Which, to be fair, isn't my RE's fault. It's just the crappy hand I've been dealt. I've had blood tests galore, 3 hysteroscopies, and a pelvic MRI and none of it has come up with any reason for my losses. 

    Why can't we be in the 1% of people who win the lottery instead of the crappy 1% we are in?

    Also, we have a Multiple Loss Ladies check-in that's posted every other Monday that you are welcome to join. ((Hugs))
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    Me (35) + DH (37) - Married Sept. 2007
    BFP #1 - DS born 7/11/11
    BFP#2 11/13/13 - EDD 7/29/14 - M/C at 5w3d
    BFP #3 12/28/13 - EDD 9/7/14 - M/C at 4w6d
    BFP#4 3/27/14 -  EDD 12/5/14 - Girl lost to 45X at 8w6d - D&C 
    BFP#5 10/15/14 - EDD 6/30/15 - M/C at 7w2d
    BFP #6 1/5/15 - EDD 9.16.14 [CLICKY for progress]
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  • Welcome and I'm so sorry for your losses. This is a great place to help cope with some of the feelings that you are having. However in the end you have to take it one day at a time. I hope you find some answers soon!  ((hugs))
    Me: 24 
    DH: 25
    BFP: 1/12/14       EDD: 9/18/14     MC: 1/15/14
    BFP: 5/6/14         EDD: 1/5/15       MC: 5/10/14
    BFP: 12/29/14      EDD: 9/12/15      MC: 1/5/15
    Dx: PCOS - 8/20/14, Hashimoto's - 10/10/14, Gluten Allergy 10/10/14


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  • I'm so sorry for your losses. It might be a good idea to check what kind of doctor she is before your appointment. If she's not an RE (and it sounds as if you should be seeing one at this point), it might be wasting time (going to the appointment and waiting for an actual RE appointment). 
    TTC since August 2013 BFP #1 1/15/14...MMC 2/24/14...D&C 3/3/14 BFP #2 5/11/14 ... severe pre-e placental abruption our angel born sleeping at 22 weeks Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  • I have no advice on seeing an RE. Just wanted to say that I am so sorry for your losses and welcome to the board.
    BFP #1: 5-14-2010, DD born 1-22-2011
    BFP #2: 4-20-2012, Natural MC 5-1-2012
    BFP #3: 7-19-2012, DS born 3-27-2013
    BFP #4: 9-13-2014, MMC discovered 10-27-14 at 10w, d&c on 11-6-14 

  • Welcome. I am sorry for your losses.

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  • Sorry for your losses ((hugs))

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    I'm sorry for your losses. Everyone else covered the first appt but I would say you should call and find out exactly what the dr is and be sure she is an RE. If she is not, find one. I've had rpl testing done and am "unexplained" every test is normal. Being able to get pg is useless to me, I do understand your feelings of failure. There may be no reason the RE can give but they will know how best to try to help you.
    Sadly we all know too well that statistics don't always land in your favor. Someone ends up on the wrong side of the number. As far as coping. Here. Therapy, exercise and (not healthy coping) alcohol.

    Eta I think my thoughts came out jumbled. Also (((hugs)))

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    Married 6/11/2011

    Me & Hubby: 34

    TTC journey started 12/2012

    BFP #1 6/5/2013, MC confirmed 6/26/2013 @ 7 wks

    BFP#2 8/25/2013 MC confirmed 10/16/2013 @ 12 wks (D&C 10/18)

    Diagnosis: unexplained RPL, unexplained IF.

    Also have hypothyroidism

    Started TTC again 12/2013

     

    IUI#1:Clomid CD 3-7, Trigger'ed CD 12. IUI CD 14. BFN

    IUI #2:Letrozole CD 3 - 7, Follistim CD 9, Trigger CD 10, IUI CD12. BFN

    Current plan: IVF with PGD. Antagonist - Vivelle Protocal. Stim start 12/1. ER 12/14.

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/502498

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  • welcome, and I'm sorry for your losses.

    I had two miscarriages this past year, and was refered for recurrent loss testing based on my history. They took a ton of vials, and I also had a sonohysterogram, where they found a fibroid inside of my uterus believed to have been the cause of my troubles.

    as to how I cope, I hang out here, I try to focus on things other than TTC and my losses, and I've become more of an introvert due to all of this craziness.

    DD 15.07.2012

    BFP #2 01.18.2014, MMC 04.10.2014 15w5d

    BFP #3 07.18.2014, MC 07.31.2014 5w6d

    DX: RPL due to submucosal uterine fibroid. Hysteroscopy 12/16. All clear!

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  • I am so sorry for your losses. Hugs. Welcome to our board.
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  • Welcome and I'm so sorry for your losses. I totally agree with what the other ladies have said about finding out what type of doctor you'll be meeting with. Please don't think that you're a failure. Unfortunately, there's very little that can be done to prevent early miscarriage. It royally sucks and I hate to say it but if someone hasn't gone through a miscarriage they'll never understand what this truly feels like. They can try to relate and will most likely say really stupid things in trying to comfort you. In my opinion, places like this board, therapy, and support groups IRL are the best way to help.

    Married: 9/25/10
    TTC # 1 since 5/2013
    BFP # 1: 2/7/14, mmc 3/12/14, D&C 3/19/14
    Boy, Trisomy 13, Karyotyping and Genetic Testing all normal
    Hysteroscopy and D&C 6/2/14, retained tissue
    Off the bench 7/14
    BFP # 2: 10/3/14, Blighted ovum, D&C 11/12/14
    Girl, no chromosomal abnormalities detected
    RPL Testing: Pre-diabetic, ANA+
    "I carry your heart with me (I carry it in my heart) I am never without it." - e.e. cummings

  • Hi there, my endocrinologist recently told me she suffered 4 miscarriages early on before a successful 5th pregnancy. As a doctor she also had numerous tests done with no firm diagnosis. I believe she found the prob and successful treatment with an infertility specialist. Her child is now 2 years old. Keep the faith.
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  • Omg I feel like you are writing my story. I am so sorry you are here with us and for your losses. I have had two very early mc this year and I am currently in the TWW. I feel like even If I do get pregnant again I'm going to lose it so it's hard to keep my spirits up. I am soooooo sorry you just had another one but I fee like I'm with you. I was also told the first loss was so common and my sucky doctors office did not even seem to care. Then I had another one and they were a bit surprised but still very callused towards me. So I switched docs and my new one was great. But she told me that because I don't seem to have a problem getting pregnant that I don't need to go to a RE. She told me I could try progesterone. Have you tried that yet? Has anyone else? Also in regards to the old "hey at least you know you can get pregnant"... I want to shout every time someone says that. Why do I feel like I have to be polite to people who are just trying to help me cope. Again I'm so sorry for our loss and please keep us posted because I will definetly be following you.
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