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I could really use some support right now. Way tl; dr

Sorry to bug y'all with this BS again, but I really need to get this out somewhere until I can get to my therapist at 3 to get it all out and sorted through in my head.

Talk about awful timing, but my mom and I just had it out...pretty bad this time. Like I'm not sure how our relationship is going to recover at this point, bc a lot of hurtful things were said. If you've read some of my past posts about my mom, you'll know that since my DS was born, our relationship has been a little strained. Shes gotten pretty pushy over the past (almost) 2yrs about bringing up her "concerns" in regards to everyrhing from my DS's health, to sleep habits, to my parenting style.

She always tries to come across in a non confrontational manner, but it almost always comes across very passive aggressive and TIC, which has slowly been grating on my nerves. And it all finally just came out today, in theform of a screaming match.

She told me I'm acting like a hardass and I'm acting pigheaded like my father (an alcoholic asshole), which feels like a straight kick t o the crotch. She said "my difficult personality" has made it hard for her to "be the grandparent to DS and the parent to me that she wants to be" bc I get so defensive when she brings up concerns. Example: he sleeps too much (11-12 hrs at night 1.5-2hrs nap). The remaining "uneveness" of the back of his head from where he had a flat spot/torticollis as a baby (even though he went thru a full course of pt for and its been mostly rectified, but cosmetically is still slightly uneven), which I've already asked 2 different drs and our pt about. His mild gross motor delay bc of benign lower muscle tone that he's in pt for. All stuff that has been rectified (by several specialists) and we regularly check up on with our pedi.

But the cause of our strained relationship is pretty much me, in her opinion. Bc she feels like she needs to "tip toe around mh and I when it comes to her concerns" bc we get defensive. This angers me, bc I feel like she's overstepping boundaries as a grandparent. My parenting choices and my child's medical needs, IMO, are up to MH and I to take care of, not her. Am I wrong in feeling that way? Not to mention, these are all things I've brought up and discussed with our pedi already.

The icing on the cake was when we she told me it saddens her that she doesnt have the welcoming relationship with us that she's dreamt of...and that I will see how it "should've been" when i see the wonderful, warm relationship she has with my brother's baby (my SIL is due in march).

Im sorry to load this shit on here. I'm just really hurt...and angry...and sad. And I'm starting to wonder if it really is me at fault here.
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  • I apologize that I didn't read it all but it's not your fault. You may need to distance yourself from your mom for a bit. You don't have to be around someone who is always making you feel this way.
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  • jorkz821 said:

    I'm sorry you're dealing with this still. It's not your fault! That comment about your brother's baby was over the line, but I wonder if your mom might be in for a rude awakening when it'll likely be a repeat with that baby/your SIL.

    Yeah...honestly, I have a feeling my SIL will be even more difficult to deal with. She tends to have a very explosive and combative personality, somy feeling is that she'll be goin from pot to frying pan there. But wtf.hearing her say that felt like a kick to the gut.
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  • I am so sorry.  I first wanted to say I can sympathize with part of this.  My son was a deep, long sleeper, and at almost 5 years old, he still is.  I thought this was a good thing, but I received a lot of commentary on this when he was an infant.  As if I forced him to sleep that long.  As if anyone could force an infant to sleep?!  He also had plagiocephaly, and wore a helmet for 6 months due to his penchant for barely moving while he slept (again- he still sleeps very still).  Again- a lot of ignorant Qs about me leaving him alone on his back all day, not engaging or playing with him, leading to his flat head.  

    I will say, I didn't hear a lot of this from my mom.  I can't imagine the hurt I would feel if she was the source of these Qs.  I also would feel a great deal of pain if my mom started to make judgments about me as a person, and also compared me to my brother and SIL.  I am so sorry.  

    I don't know you, I don't know your mom.  If you generally have a good relationship with her, it might be good to explore ways to talk with her about where this is all coming from.  Or therapy might help you distance yourself from her.  Whatever it takes so you can feel better.  I hope you have a good session, and I'm sorry you are going through all of this.
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  • The "grandparent she wants to be and parent she wants you to be" is ridiculous. You don't get to dictate what kind of parent your child is. And it sounds like you have been doing a great job by getting him in PT and addressing his health issues.

    I doubt she's going to have a great relationship with your brother's kid because of both her issues and your SILs own issues. I don't have any advice on how to fix it or if it's even worth fixing but I don't think you're doing anything wrong by not letting her dictate how you parent your son.

    And wtf is wrong with 11-12 hours if sleep and 1.5-2 hour nap? That's my almost 2 year old's schedule and I think it's perfect and developmentally appropriate.

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  • I don't have much to add to PPs comments. I just wanted to offer some ((HUGS))
  • Thank you guys, for the advice and support. I cant even tell you how much I truly appreciate it.

    It just sucks...it feel like her and I have been at this going round and round since DS1 was born...and I guess when you have an issue thats been at a stalemate for so long, ypu start to question everything, and wonder if theres a better way to deal with it.

    Idk why she feels the need to make this about her. The way I parent my kid has nothing to do with her. I guess its just her nature? She was always a super involved parent, so maybe now she feels like she should be more involved in her grandsons life? Idk.

    But like many of you said, her opinion of a grandparent's role is warped. I've tried many times to get her to understand that in a gentler, less confrontational manner..mand she doesnt seem to get it. So I guess this just needed to happen. Sucks that it had to happen now.
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  • @Hawkward‌ you make a valid point. Her and i have always been close, so I do think I've made the bad habit of giving her too much info regarding stuff thatshe doesn't need to be involved in. So although, ive definitely made some changes in how much I tell her, I think more change is in order there.

    Bc you're right...and its true. We dictate how the people around us treat us.
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  • edited December 2014

    I could have written a lot of the things you posted about my mother and I, and her constant jabs at my "parenting style". 

     

    Yes, you are allowed to decide how to parent your child.  Not sure if your mom cares for your LO at all (while you work or if she babysits from time to time) but you are so within your right to explain how you want your child to be taken care of.  If she is unable to do so, she has to tell you and then you have to find other arrangements for his care.

    It's so disrespectful to make comments like that, really.

    If she does not watch your LO-- just maybe let this blow over a bit.  I know you are due with #2 soon, so maybe ride out the rest of your pregnancy with little/ minimal contact.

     

    Good luck-- I totally can empathize and sympathize here.

     

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  • MrsT0514MrsT0514 member
    edited December 2014
    Thanks @Helenahhandbasket‌. No, she actually lives OOS and I'm home with DS, so fortunately enough, we dont have to worry about this complicating childcare or anything. The only thing it may mess up is the fact that we were planning tl have her come stay with us for a week or so after this baby is born to help out around the house and with DS.

    The fact that her and my step dad have helped us a lot financially lately (I.e. just buying things for the house/DS1/the baby as needed) is irrelevant I guess, but she did feel the need to hold that over my head and make a rude comment about how maybe she needs to "let me be a big girl and work it out" instead of helping us, but whatever. Even in the midst of our argument, I made damn sure to let her know how much I appreciate her help & I'd never want to come across ungrateful, but she wasnt hearing it. Shes not one to fight fair.
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  • Ugh, family shit like this is the worst, and the holidays just make it even more painful. We have some of this with my MIL. I think PP have given you some great advice so I will just give the sympathetic ear.
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  • I think PPs covered everything I would have said so I'm just going to offer you hugs!

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  • I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with this. I agree to limit contact and hopefully the last few weeks of your pregnancy can be stress free.

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  • ClaryPax said:

    I'm sorry to hear this.  It is time she had some boundaries.  Don't back down from the boundaries that you set and will continue to set with her.  It is time she backs off on your child and the medical issues.  You have it covered with the help of several specialists.  She had her turn as a parent now she needs to let you have your turn.  Sounds like she is having a hard time letting go. 

    Im starting to wonder if this is some form of latent hypochondria coming out with her or.something. She seriously was never like this before DS was born. When my brother and I were little, she was very much a "stick a bandaid on it..it'll be gone by the time you get married" type of parent.

    But this...this is just ridiculous.
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  • I'm so sorry. :(

    Do you think some counseling for you two could help? Your mom is really being unfair to you. You are the mom & you make the rules. Backseat parenting drives me nuts.


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  • I'm so sorry. :(

    Do you think some counseling for you two could help? Your mom is really being unfair to you. You are the mom & you make the rules. Backseat parenting drives me nuts.

    I'd be open to it, but honestly, she's been in denial of and making excuses for, instead of dealing with a lot of her own personal issues (including depression that she's admitted to, but refuses to get help), and every time I've suggested she see someone (even just a therapist/counselor to talk to), she makes excuses and tries to blame the way she's feeling on other people or circumstances ("oh my husband is stressing me out, the weather's crappy, I'm just tired", etc), so I doubt she'd be receptive.
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  • MrsT0514MrsT0514 member
    edited December 2014
    Moidonna said:

    I'm sorry this is happening right now.  Your mom is being ridiculous.  She sounds like she has control issues.  ((hugs))

    Oh she most definitely does. She's always been a fairly "my way or the highway" type of person. When she's not in control or things arent going in her favor, she gets nasty, passive aggressive, and spiteful. Hence the "below the belt" comments she felt the need to spout off to me today.

    Probably where I get my "type a" personality, ha. This is something I've really been working on lately. Can't control everything in life. I can only control the way I react to it!
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  • billybumblerbillybumbler member
    edited December 2014
    I can relate, my DD was born small and struggled to gain weight. My mom would question our care of her and it really hurt, even though, like you, we were taking her to doctors, following medical advice etc.

    I eventually had to have a very difficult talk where I said, you need to back off, and if you keep bringing up this subject we won't see each other very often. Our relationship was distant for a couple of weeks but she apologized, backed off and we moved forward.

    It's really hard. There's not much you can do except, like PPs said, keep repeating that you don't want to discuss it and it's being taken care of by you, YH and doctors.

    And the brother comparison really sucks. I'm sorry. I'd be furious.

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  • @tlex I know I've said it before (and you've given me such sound advice like this before!), but you're so right. When I was younger and she was younger and life was less complicated, the whole mom AND bff thing totally worked for us. But now...with all of the changes in my life, in her life, as well as her current emotional state (which has been declining over the past few years, which more people than just I have noticed...I so badly wish she'd get help to help her deal with her emotions), it just doesn't work anymore.

    So like you said, as much as it sucks, I really just need to draw the line in the sand. She needs to be my mom and my kids' grandmother...and that's that. Its now gotten to the point of her meddling in business that isnt her own and although she's my mom and I love her...its not ok. This just isn't her place.

    This is something I'm working on, with the help of MH and my counselor (and the awesome support I have from you guys!). As much as I know that Change is VERY POSITIVE thing, it's still difficult to make the transition. Welp...here's to a new year! And all thw changes that come with it I guess, right? ;)
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  • I am so sorry.  This happened with us and the IL's.  They started telling us we weren't doing enough or going to the right doctors or hospitals for DS1 (he has special needs). We had to set boundaries.  We told them they are welcome to be grandparents, but if they choose to bring up anything related to medical issues, then we are going to remove ourselves and the child/ren from the situation.

    I would tell her that she is welcome to be a grandparent.  She can have all the relationship she wants with your child.  But that your parenting choices and medical decisions are not up for discussion.  If she chooses to bring them up you'll be forced to remove yourselves from her presence.  She has 1 job, to love your child  End of story.  You're more that adequately caring for your child so it's not like she has to step in for the safety or health of your child.  

    It's so hard when grandparents try to overstep their boundaries, it really is.  Because you're still her daughter and she's still your mom, and there will always be that weird tension there.  In her mind, you're still her kid and maybe she doesn't see you a competent parent/adult.  I feel for you.
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  • Thanks @ToastieSimons‌ as well as everyone else for the love, support, and advice.

    I had a really good session with my counselor yesterday who basically reinforced what all of you said. This situation between my mom and I has been a long time coming. it needed to happen. Its unfortunate that she's doing so much deflecting of her own issues/emotional baggage that she cant even see through the fog enough to recognize her faults in this...but honestly, I can only hope that she takes the time to look inward and start taking the steps necessary to get herself the help she needs (for her untreated depression and other emotional issues that i wont get into).

    I'm just really hurt. And really fucking angry that she'd have the nerve to say such nasty, berating things to her own daughter. The woman I spoke to and argued with yesterday was unrecognizable. Certainly not the mom that I know and remember raising me.
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