Breastfeeding

Husband "Helping"... to Tank My Supply

I am BF on demand my almost 5 week son, and things are going pretty well.
We had issues regaining birth weight, so I supplement with BM for his first 3 weeks, but Little Noob is right on track.
I still pump in the morning and occasionally during the day if my husband bottle feeds. I usually have about 6-10oz in the fridge, as well as about 20 oz of a stash in the freezer.
My issue: when I am in the shower, or napping, or if he wakes up before I do at night, my husband will simply feed LO a bottle... doesn't tell me he's bottle fed, doesn't bring me the baby to breast feed, etc. I have explained over and over that I have to pump if baby eats from a bottle to keep my supply, but he still "helps"! It took a week + of More Milk Plus and religiously waking baby to nurse to get my supply back, after he took the 3 am feeding for multiple days.
Can anyone recommend Where can I refer my husband to, to make him understand that this help is hurting, and suggestions?
Thank you all for your help!

PS free muffins to all of you who made it through this novel, sorry for the rambles!

Re: Husband "Helping"... to Tank My Supply

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  • I just had this conversation with my husband this morning. He didn't wake me when dd got a bottle last night. Unfortunately I don't have advice because I'm not sure what I told him will work. He just doesn't believe me when I tell him he is hurting me more than helping me. Just wanted to tell you that you are not alone!
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  • Thank you all, ladies! I just looks like we need to have The Talk.
    Thanks for the support! :D
  •  Lol now I know my dh is not the only one who does this!

     I have some powdered formula that was free from somewheres, up in the cupboard. I will take a small bottle of formula with me if I'm going to the grocery store or something, just in case, to 'top her off' till I can nurse. But at home I don't use it.

     So the other night, I dozed off watching tv with dh holding baby. I woke up an hour later to he and her gone, to upstairs. I'm somewhat hard of hearing so I hadn't heard her fuss or him move around. I get up to go upstairs figuring she's probably getting hungry, when I spotted an empty bottle on the counter-he had fed her formula with me lying right there!!!

     I was so mad-I said why didn't you wake me up? He said, I thought I was helping you rest. I said yeah now I have to sleep with engorgement. This is our sixth child and I bf all of them, so he knows better.  

     I was mad and hid the formula (I've since told him where it is, lol) . I think he did it because he likes seeing how much she ate by looking at the bottle-he's been like that with all our kids. He has an engineers mind (he's not one but thinks like one) and I think he likes the precision of the ounce marks on the bottle :)
  • GL with the talk. It's hard, because they think they're helping. I didn't have quite the same problem, but DH was giving LO too big of bottles- 10-20 ml bigger than I asked/he told me. He didn't think it needed to be exact, but when you're talking about 80ml bottles, that's a big difference! Over the course of a day, that's a whole extra feed. I just explained to DH that it was very important that I know what LO eats. He still doesn't quite understand that I *need* to pump if I don't BF but at least he doesn't feed LO without telling me.

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  • Yeah, the talk hit a brick wall... try explaining engorgement or power pumping to a tired first time dad!
    So, last night I did what you suggested: into the freezer it goes immediately! At least this way, when we do bottle feed, we can rotate and use the older stuff first!
    Thank you for the support!
  • DH did this at first. Not to bond with the baby but because he felt so awful that I was so tired and he wanted me to be able to sleep. I think our talk was basically that I knew he loved us and that it was hard to watch this process but that we would all be ok and he didn't have to fix this. He just needed to be patient and let me and baby work it out. I was supplementing with formula at first and finally made it to EBF. Try not to be frustrated with him. Y'all will get there.
  • @Happyin14‌ I think it's a combination of my tendency to exaggerate probably making him think I am overly stressing the importance of pumping. That and the "help" of his mother who offers tips as "the baby should be sleeping through the night" and stock up on rice cereal as soon as I go back to work.
    Sigh.
  • Oh. My. Gawd.
    I was just in the kitchen after getting up from my nap, to do some chores since LO was still asleep. Top of the trash can is an empty freezer bag. (I didn't even know he knew where I keep the frozen)
    He said baby was hungry and he didn't want to wake me. (No wonder why the baby was still asleep)
    After I calmed down I asked him if he understands what it means when I say it hurts my supply. It seems that he understands, but he says I always complain how tired I am and he was trying to help by letting me rest.
    I told him, again, that *every* time the baby eats, if it's not on the boob, I have to pump, and letting me sleep hurts the baby. "So, you don't want me to let you sleep at all?" NO!
    He got huffy about how he is only trying to help me and stomped off.
    Why is this so hard to understand?!?!

    rant over
  • I was just remarking to my husband that everyone in the family has one baby to worry about, but I have two: the baby and my supply. Protecting my supply has been like caring for a second baby and I think that's the only reason baby and I have kept the nursing relationship thus far (10 months). I have had to be very vigilant about stuff like this. I agree that freezing all of your stash helps. And hide or throw out all formula.
  • I almost MURDERED my mother in law when she didn't wake me for the middle of the night feeding. 

    She interpreted "LO wakes up every night at 4am to eat. I would LOVE it if you wanted to get up and change him and bottle feed him while I pump, then I can go right back to sleep. Then he wakes up again between 6-8am, and if you got him and let me sleep in, that would be great!" as: "don't wake me up. Grab him as soon as he makes a peep" She turned the monitor on and slept with it by her head!

    I lost 6oz that day and it took a week to recover them. I was not a happy camper. DH saw the murder in my eyes and bought me flowers. 
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  • Oh. My. Gawd. I was just in the kitchen after getting up from my nap, to do some chores since LO was still asleep. Top of the trash can is an empty freezer bag. (I didn't even know he knew where I keep the frozen) He said baby was hungry and he didn't want to wake me. (No wonder why the baby was still asleep) After I calmed down I asked him if he understands what it means when I say it hurts my supply. It seems that he understands, but he says I always complain how tired I am and he was trying to help by letting me rest. I told him, again, that *every* time the baby eats, if it's not on the boob, I have to pump, and letting me sleep hurts the baby. "So, you don't want me to let you sleep at all?" NO! He got huffy about how he is only trying to help me and stomped off. Why is this so hard to understand?!?! rant over
    WTH?  How does he not understand that he's just making you angry at this point. How is that helping?  Just start letting the air out of his tires every time he doesn't wake you up to feed the baby.
  • At this point I would be angry. He is a grown man. It has been explained to him. He knows He Is making life harder for you. In my opinion this should not have happened more than once. He said he understands and yet he does it. I might ask him why he is trying to ruin my attempt at breastfeeding because at this point I can't see his actions as anything else. I would not be able to trust him anymore. I would not be doing anything without the baby for a while. You might not want to react as I would but after so many chances and after so much explanation I would not believe this is about him trying to be nice. It might sound extreme but he isn't a 6 year old child. He is fully aware of his actions because you have explained more than once.
  • I feel like I need to pump at least once a day, preparing to go back to work shortly, otherwise I wouldn't bother at all. Thankfully we have no formula in the house at all, I don't want any temptation for anyone.
    I'm half tempted to drag him to the LC (don't need the LC currently, but our pediatrician isn't strongly pro-bf, and i don't think she'd push for him to listen like a LC would).
    He is being very stubborn lately - for the first time in our relationship I am putting my foot down when it comes to baby, and I'm sure he doesn't like me as Mamma Bear. Is this just one of the few things he can control (so he wcts like a toddler)... or is he just being a dick?
    Sigh...
  •  OP, I think what you're going to have to do, is to keep baby with you whenever dh is home-or at least the monitor, so you can hear baby fussing to nurse.
     Since he seems like he isn't going to stop feeding bottles, probably the best thing for your supply is to ensure that he does not have the opportunity. Keep baby with you (co sleep or have him next to your side of the bed) or the monitor so you hear him first.

     I posted upthread about my dh feeding a formula bottle when I was home and available to nurse. It's our sixth kid, he knew better-I do think it's a control thing, with my dh and yours. I just really try not to leave him opportunities to do so!
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