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rslh10 · December 2014

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/rslh10

I need help. This is getting ridiculous. I temp within 30 minutes of the same time each day. I temp orally. I have done nothing different in my life the past month to make my chart look like this.

I'm getting angry. Have I even ovulated?! I know I posted this in the CT the other day, but I figured a main board post would be met well!

So here are some gifs to express my anger. Please help! 8-}

PinkCamino · December 2014

Oh love (((hugs))) how frustrating. I really don't know, I'm sorry. I'm going to look at your chart in more detail later. Also, have you been using opks?

PinkCamino · December 2014

Does FF give you CHs if you remove CD 28 & 29?

rubysi · December 2014

I am going to guess not with one question. We're you I'll or did you take your temp late on Nov 20th? Hugs.

rslh10 · December 2014

PinkCamino said:

Does FF give you CHs if you remove CD 28 & 29?

Nope. The only time I had CH's was when I entered 3 days of high dummy temps after my dip on CD18. Which didn't end up happening!

megrae12 · December 2014

I am sorry love. I know that is super frustrating. If you arent using OPKs, I dunno if FF will give you CH(based on your temps). How long are your cycles normally? Could it just be possible this cycle is annovulatory? Lots of ((Hugs)). I know how frustrating that can be.

rslh10 · December 2014

rubysi said:

I am going to guess not with one question. We're you I'll or did you take your temp late on Nov 20th? Hugs.

I took my temp late (8:40 vs 6:30-7am) It was also the day of my SIS. I was super nervous and probably slept like shit the previous night.

rslh10 · December 2014

megrae12 said:

I am sorry love. I know that is super frustrating. If you arent using OPKs, I dunno if FF will give you CH(based on your temps). How long are your cycles normally? Could it just be possible this cycle is annovulatory? Lots of ((Hugs)). I know how frustrating that can be.

I have never (to my knowledge) had an annovulatory cycle, so I don't know

I had all the typical O signs. I wasn't using OPKS because I was trying to fight my crazy, and relax. I had my SIS this cycle, and all my testing the past few months. Then my mind was like "Oh...hm....you're all clear, so maybe you should just give it a try!" And now....I'm super crazy.

Km380 · December 2014

I'm useless I just want to give you a hug >:D<

megrae12 · December 2014

rslh10 said:

megrae12 said:

I am sorry love. I know that is super frustrating. If you arent using OPKs, I dunno if FF will give you CH(based on your temps). How long are your cycles normally? Could it just be possible this cycle is annovulatory? Lots of ((Hugs)). I know how frustrating that can be.

I have never (to my knowledge) had an annovulatory cycle, so I don't know I had all the typical O signs. I wasn't using OPKS because I was trying to fight my crazy, and relax. I had my SIS this cycle, and all my testing the past few months. Then my mind was like "Oh...hm....you're all clear, so maybe you should just give it a try!" And now....I'm super crazy.

I get all of that. Remember it's normal to have one annovulatory cycle, so it's not the end of the world, just feels like it. I wish I had more answers for you, lovey. Maybe b/c of the SIS and whatnot, your body is just confused about what is going on? My body was like that when I had my SHG.

rslh10 · December 2014

megrae12 said:

rslh10 said:

megrae12 said:

I am sorry love. I know that is super frustrating. If you arent using OPKs, I dunno if FF will give you CH(based on your temps). How long are your cycles normally? Could it just be possible this cycle is annovulatory? Lots of ((Hugs)). I know how frustrating that can be.

I have never (to my knowledge) had an annovulatory cycle, so I don't know I had all the typical O signs. I wasn't using OPKS because I was trying to fight my crazy, and relax. I had my SIS this cycle, and all my testing the past few months. Then my mind was like "Oh...hm....you're all clear, so maybe you should just give it a try!" And now....I'm super crazy.

I get all of that. Remember it's normal to have one annovulatory cycle, so it's not the end of the world, just feels like it. I wish I had more answers for you, lovey. Maybe b/c of the SIS and whatnot, your body is just confused about what is going on? My body was like that when I had my SHG.

That's kind of what I'm wondering. It was on CD 11, so not really close to my normal (non medicated) O dates. I think I just need to chalk this one up to a crappy cycle lol.

rslh10 · December 2014

Km380 said:

I'm useless I just want to give you a hug >:D<

Gimme all the hugs!

BookishMomma · December 2014

I don't have anything to add other than this...

ctk181 · December 2014

Ugh, so frustrating! My best guess would be CD18 or 19, but your temps before and after are so close! I'm sorry. ((Hugs))

PinkCamino · December 2014

I'm starting to thing that temp on CD11 might be to blame.

PinkCamino · December 2014

PetraStonegirl said:

I would assume that you O'd within a day of the last EWCM appearance. However, if this happens again next month, I would move to vaginal temping for a couple of cycles, in order to get a rock solid temp history for FF to work with.

This. I temped vaginally last cycle and my temps were way more steady.

incir · December 2014

No advice, just ((hugs)) and damn FF for messing with you!

rslh10 · December 2014

@PinkCamino‌ i discarded cd 11...nada. No change. I think because I had a drop in cd 22 it's all confused!!!

PinkCamino · December 2014

What's your "average" O @rslh10? Honestly, if I were in your shoes I think i'd put down the BBT to restore some sort of sanity. Those types of charts cause so much frustration and upset.

ETA: the last thing I can think of is maybe playing with the detector. Make sure you're on advanced?

rslh10 · December 2014

PinkCamino said:

What's your "average" O @rslh10? Honestly, if I were in your shoes I think i'd put down the BBT to restore some sort of sanity. Those types of charts cause so much frustration and upset.

ETA: the last thing I can think of is maybe playing with the detector. Make sure you're on advanced?

Before we discovered my low AMH, I would always get +opks on cd14-16. That being said, I wasn't temping. After those cycles using opks, I went to the dr, discovered the amh issue and then was medicated. I'm going back to medicated cycles in January. Maybe I had this issue before and never knew it. I am going to just stop temping. I don't think I'm going to do it while I'm medicated either. Too much mind fucking going on! The only cycles that I have temped with no meds were October and November. If you look at my October cycle chart, too, it's weird as well.

I won't lie though, I was hoping this cycle would be my "hail mary" (thanks, @bookishmomma for the phrase) 2% chance of conceiving on my own, and I could avoid the IUI's, and in turn avoid the disappointment of a failed cycle, lost money, and then facing IVF which I think will be the end of our TTC journey....Blerg.

rslh10 · December 2014

Also, I think it's weird that it keeps going (almost) exactly to the same two temps? Is that a typical thing to happen? @pinkcamino?

BookishMomma · December 2014

rslh10 said:
I won't lie though, I was hoping this cycle would be my "hail mary" (thanks, @bookishmomma for the phrase) 2% chance of conceiving on my own, and I could avoid the IUI's, and in turn avoid the disappointment of a failed cycle, lost money, and then facing IVF which I think will be the end of our TTC journey....Blerg.

Well, we all know how my Hail Mary turned out... that doesn't mean it can't work for somebody else, though! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

rslh10 · December 2014

BookishMomma said:

rslh10 said:
I won't lie though, I was hoping this cycle would be my "hail mary" (thanks, @bookishmomma for the phrase) 2% chance of conceiving on my own, and I could avoid the IUI's, and in turn avoid the disappointment of a failed cycle, lost money, and then facing IVF which I think will be the end of our TTC journey....Blerg.

Well, we all know how my Hail Mary turned out... that doesn't mean it can't work for somebody else, though! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Ugh. I'm sorry Bookish. I didn't even mean for it to come off like that. ((hugs))

PinkCamino · December 2014

rslh10 said:

Also, I think it's weird that it keeps going (almost) exactly to the same two temps? Is that a typical thing to happen? @pinkcamino?

is it possible your BBT is on the fritz?

rslh10 · December 2014

momentomori said:

Ugghhh. Definitely not a chart expert here, but wanted to throw some extra ((hugs)) in. I have been looking at your chart everyday too, wondering WTF?

haha!! Every morning I wake up like "Ok...come on huge spike! (or drop) You can do this body!!"

Nope. LOL!! Thanks for the hugs, lady.

rslh10 · December 2014

PinkCamino said:

rslh10 said:

Also, I think it's weird that it keeps going (almost) exactly to the same two temps? Is that a typical thing to happen? @pinkcamino?

is it possible your BBT is on the fritz?

This could be a real possibility. It's super cheap and the power button has been feeling weird. I think I'm gonna toss that bitch, and RELAX for the holiday

Wheres that non-temping check in!

lol

BookishMomma · December 2014

rslh10 said:

Ugh. I'm sorry Bookish. I didn't even mean for it to come off like that. ((hugs))

Oh, no worries, honey. I didn't take it like that. We have to joke about these things or we'd go nuts.

rslh10 · December 2014

I did just notice that FF moved my projected AF start date up to tomorrow, from Friday. I think that happened after I entered my temp from yesterday. So thank you everyone for your help and hugs. This whole thing is just crap! ((hugs)) to you guys too!!!

welly01 · December 2014

@rslh10, I'm sorry your chart is being wacky. (((hugs))).

PinkCamino · December 2014

rslh10 said:

PinkCamino said:

rslh10 said:

Also, I think it's weird that it keeps going (almost) exactly to the same two temps? Is that a typical thing to happen? @pinkcamino?

is it possible your BBT is on the fritz?

This could be a real possibility. It's super cheap and the power button has been feeling weird. I think I'm gonna toss that bitch, and RELAX for the holiday Wheres that non-temping check in! lol

Put down the BBT lady ((hugs))

rslh10 · December 2014

mlal78 said:

Okay, here is my two cents.
- I think cd18 is a definite possibility for O, your cm matches up with it, as does the big temp drop.
- I would leave in the previously discarded temp for cd22. It is very normal to have a temp dip around 4/5dpo, it is caused by estrogen levels dropping off as progesterone levels increase.
- I think your body is probably goin a little crazy being a non medicated cycle, and the stress of the SIS. Doesn't mean that you didn't ovulate.
- There are all sorts of outside influences that can be affecting your post O temps. Mouth breathing, restless sleeping, temperature fluctuations in your bedroom, dying thermometer.

There is a possibilty of being 10dpo. I would just go with that, and look for af in a few days. In the meantime, put down your thermometer (if it won't drive you more crazy to not know what those temps are doing). Look for af in a couple days, and test if nothing happens.

I know we all want to see a pretty chart, but sometimes we get ugly ones. I will say that I did get a bfp on a FF chart that did not even want to give me ch's. Obviously it didn't work out, just wanted to throw it in there.

Thank you lady. I really think you guys are right. I need to step away from the BBT! I will just be patient and wait for AF. This is just such an ugly chart! :P

Nikolie93 · December 2014

Just wanted to give you *hugs*, sorry for your frustration!

rmpar29 · December 2014

No advice, just ((((HUGS)))). It's possible that you O'd on CD18, but also possible that you didn't. I'm so sorry love. I would just put the BBT down and wait.

flyoffeve · December 2014

(Hugs) I was also thinking CD18. Still new at charts, so I dunno.

MSU_Girl1202 · December 2014

Oh sweets, sending you so many ((hugs))
My best guess also would be CD18, but my honest non-expert opinion would be to agree with PC and slowly step away from the BBT...
Sending lots of love your way!

buggirl72 · December 2014

mlal78 said:

Okay, here is my two cents.
- I think cd18 is a definite possibility for O, your cm matches up with it, as does the big temp drop.
- I would leave in the previously discarded temp for cd22. It is very normal to have a temp dip around 4/5dpo, it is caused by estrogen levels dropping off as progesterone levels increase.
- I think your body is probably goin a little crazy being a non medicated cycle, and the stress of the SIS. Doesn't mean that you didn't ovulate.
- There are all sorts of outside influences that can be affecting your post O temps. Mouth breathing, restless sleeping, temperature fluctuations in your bedroom, dying thermometer.

There is a possibilty of being 10dpo. I would just go with that, and look for af in a few days. In the meantime, put down your thermometer (if it won't drive you more crazy to not know what those temps are doing). Look for af in a couple days, and test if nothing happens.

I know we all want to see a pretty chart, but sometimes we get ugly ones. I will say that I did get a bfp on a FF chart that did not even want to give me ch's. Obviously it didn't work out, just wanted to throw it in there.

I agree with @mlal78 on all of this. I would toss out your CD10 temp (even though it does not change your chart) based on it being the night before your SIS and knowing you did not sleep well.

If you plan on temping at all, I would grab a Mabis BBT (walmart has them). Reliable and fast.

My best guess: between the CM change and the temp dip, CD18 is your most likely O day - you just do not have a clean shift. My only other guess (because of the low AMH) is maybe you did not have a "strong" ovulation and you just don't have a great corpus luteum pumping out a lot of progesterone to bump up your temp.

nikiswimr · December 2014

I'm not going to repeat the good advice everyone else has had. Just want to say ((hugs)) and I hope your Hail Mary works out despite the ugly chart!

CD18 is my best guess as well and I'm also wondering if your BBT needs tone replaced.

rslh10 · December 2014

@buggirl72‌ exactly what I was wondering. Thank you for your input about the low AMH!

dawnstar898 · December 2014

I would give you advice, but whenever I try and do those "test your chart skill" things on FF, I fail miserably. My GUESS would be 18 or 19, but, yeah, see previous statement. Soooo, here are some (((hugs))) and a TP for those silly temps!

rslh10 · December 2014

dawnstar898 said:

I would give you advice, but whenever I try and do those "test your chart skill" things on FF, I fail miserably. My GUESS would be 18 or 19, but, yeah, see previous statement. Soooo, here are some (((hugs))) and a TP for those silly temps!

This is exactly what I needed to hear tonight! LOL thank you!

It made me giggle. ((hugs)) back!

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