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This is a thread posted daily for any of us who need to get out our frustrations about waiting to O, the 2WW, or vent about our cycles.

If you find yourself checking FF obsessively, MF is getting the best of you, or you just want to pee on all things, let it out here! In order for the conductors to be better able to help you, please make sure you either have a FF chart link in your sig, or make sure you post a link.

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Crazy level from 1-10:

CD/DPO:

Can I just ______ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here:

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  • heartbot said:

    Crazy level from 1-10: 8

    CD/DPO: CD13

    Can I just ______ already?!: be done with this cycle/the holidays

    Signs/Symptoms: Watery CM. My guess is O will be here in 2-3 days.

    Explain your Crazy here: I've already given up on this cycle. My period is due on Christmas Eve, and given my luck the last few months, I know I'm going to spend Christmas on my period, with my in-laws who generally have not been very sensitive about my loss. I've told my husband he needs to talk to his family about it before we come to visit, and he says he will, but he thinks it's not going to do any good and his family will just be irritated with me. I'm dreading it. I'm ready for January. I'm ready to put this whole miserable year behind me.

    ((Hugs))
    BFP #1: 5-14-2010, DD born 1-22-2011
    BFP #2: 4-20-2012, Natural MC 5-1-2012
    BFP #3: 7-19-2012, DS born 3-27-2013
    BFP #4: 9-13-2014, MMC discovered 10-27-14 at 10w, d&c on 11-6-14 

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  • @heartbot ((Hugs)) sweetie. Holidays suck and in-laws suck worse. 
    Multiple TTCAL 1IF 3
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    DX: stage 2 Endo 2012, PCOS 7/2/14,  HSG 6/11/14, Lefty open!!
    BFP#1, EDD: 4/27/14, Missed EP confirmed: 9/23/13, R tube removal: 9/25/13 
    Clomid/TI #1=BFN, 
    Clomid/TI#2=BFN, Clomid/TI #3=CP
    BFP #2 CP, EDD 7/12/15
    On a treatment break: 2 natural cycles. Saving money, sigh*

    Goodbye my sweet babies. We miss you so much
    All Welcome


  • @heartbot I'm so sorry. So many hugs.
  • @heartbot I hear you about being ready for a new year.  So many hugs for you

    I'll join this week's train.  I'm CD14, I guess waiting to O but it's probably not going to be until Sat/Sunday. 
    I'm trying to be optimistic about this being the month we burn the bench, but since work has been a living nightmare, I am insanely stressed and also just kind of want the next two weeks to be over just so I can have a week off for xmas.  We also need to actually have sex sometime in the next week to actually be burning the bench... So, you know.  There's that. 


    ::The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar that even the ultimate fullfillment of that hope cannot fully erase:: Thomas Hardy

    BFP #1: 07/08/11  EDD: 03/22/12  Missed miscarriage @ 8w: 08/11/11, stopped growing @ 6w6d
    BFP #2: 03/26/12  EDD: 12/07/12  We have a HB at 7w!! (04/20/12)  CSD born 12/12/12 
    BFP #3: 08/05/14  Chemical Pregnancy at 4w3d 08/06/14
    BFP #4: 10/02/14  EDD: 06/10/15  Miscarriage at 6w6d 10/22/14




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  • @heartbot ((Hugs)) This is such a hard time of year and with all the expectations of us being over it, it just makes it worse. I hope your husband's family is understanding. I'm with you on just wanting it to be 2015 already.


    I'll join the train too

    Crazy level from 1-10:

    CD/DPO: 17/3?

    Can I just ______ already?!: Get shit worked out

    Signs/Symptoms: Super EWCM, super moody, - OPKs so far...and temp jump

    Explain your Crazy here: My temp jumped this morning and FF gave me dotted crosshairs and put me 3dpo. I am not convinced. I swear teary breakdowns increase my temp the next day. I'm going to try to get over feeling so bummed and HIO tonight just in case.

    Can you link your chart for mobile? ;)

    Also how often/when did you POASopk?
  • lycih said:

    @heartbot I hear you about being ready for a new year.  So many hugs for you

    I'll join this week's train.  I'm CD14, I guess waiting to O but it's probably not going to be until Sat/Sunday. 
    I'm trying to be optimistic about this being the month we burn the bench, but since work has been a living nightmare, I am insanely stressed and also just kind of want the next two weeks to be over just so I can have a week off for xmas.  We also need to actually have sex sometime in the next week to actually be burning the bench... So, you know.  There's that. 

    Booooooo. I'm sorry for the work stress! FX the next 2 weeks are as kind to you as possible (((hugs)))
  • @PinkCamino Here it is : chart 

    During the week I don't POASopk until after work so I may miss the surge. This weekend I did both days right around noon.
    I'm wondering if you may have a shorter surge and missed it.
  • Thank you ladies; I'm literally contemplating quitting after the new year it's been so bad... I'm supposed to be actually signing paperwork for partnership/ownership after the new year, but I honestly don't think I want it anymore... 

    :-S


    ::The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar that even the ultimate fullfillment of that hope cannot fully erase:: Thomas Hardy

    BFP #1: 07/08/11  EDD: 03/22/12  Missed miscarriage @ 8w: 08/11/11, stopped growing @ 6w6d
    BFP #2: 03/26/12  EDD: 12/07/12  We have a HB at 7w!! (04/20/12)  CSD born 12/12/12 
    BFP #3: 08/05/14  Chemical Pregnancy at 4w3d 08/06/14
    BFP #4: 10/02/14  EDD: 06/10/15  Miscarriage at 6w6d 10/22/14




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  • Hopping on the train...again!!

    Crazy level from 1-10:9 1/2

    CD/DPO:CD 24

    Can I just ______ already?!: O?  Have confirmation of O?

    Signs/Symptoms:Nothing really

    Explain your Crazy here:It takes 4 days of high dummy temps for FF to give me any CH's, and even then it only gives me dotted.  I don't know what's up with this cycle.  It looks to me like I O'd, but with the dummy temps it says I O'd on CD 21, but I'm not convinced of that either. 

    Blaaarg...I'm so over this cycle.


    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • MrsOscarFelixMrsOscarFelix member
    edited December 2014

    @heartbot ((hugs)) I'm definitely ready for the new year.

    @lycih Yay on burning the bench! GL!

    @petitchou1019 you were only one day behind me and now both our cycles freaked out? What's going on here? Funny how that works

    @menrandes I hear you on the crazy cycle. I have no idea what's going. I think it looks like you definitely O'd but I'm still fairly new to charting so I am not the best help.

    AFM -

    Crazy level from 1-10: 7

    CD/DPO: CD 18

    Can I just ______ already?!: Know what's going on

    Signs/Symptoms: positive OPK

    Explain your Crazy here: Ok I am on my THIRD day of OPK's - what the hell does that mean? I missed temping yesterday and I am worried it will screw up my chart. I am thinking I O'd because today I have rise in temp - but I guess we will see from here on out. As far as I can tell I still have fertile CM but I think I have been seeing it for the last week. I really don't know what the hell is going on.

    https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/53aa50 link for mobile

     

    Edit: words are hard

    Married 9/13/14

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    Me: 24 / DH: 24

    BFP#1 10/15/14 - EDD 6/19/2014 - MC 10/23/14

    BFP #2: 12/18/14 - EDD: 8/31/15 - MC 1/4/14 5w6d

    **Currently Benched until TBD**

    My Chart


  • Hmm....if I discard CD 15, it gives me CH's for CD 19 without needing any dummy temps, which is the most likely time IMO that I O'd, if I did anyway. 
    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • Menrandes said:
    Hopping on the train...again!!

    Crazy level from 1-10:9 1/2

    CD/DPO:CD 24

    Can I just ______ already?!: O?  Have confirmation of O?

    Signs/Symptoms:Nothing really

    Explain your Crazy here:It takes 4 days of high dummy temps for FF to give me any CH's, and even then it only gives me dotted.  I don't know what's up with this cycle.  It looks to me like I O'd, but with the dummy temps it says I O'd on CD 21, but I'm not convinced of that either. 

    Blaaarg...I'm so over this cycle.


    I think the plateau on CD20 and CD21 is why you're getting CHs for CD21 with another temp rise. I had one cycle that gave me CHs at 6 DPO. These types of cycles are long and super frustrating. FX for a temp rise tomorrow so you can get CHs and move on. I imagine they would remain dotted though because of the CM info being missing.
  • @heartbot ((hugs)) I'm definitely ready for the new year.

    @lycih Yay on burning the bench! GL!

    @petitchou1019 you were only one day behind me and now both our cycles freaked out? What's going on here? Funny how that works

    @menrandes I hear you on the crazy cycle. I have no idea what's going. I think it looks like you definitely O'd but I'm still fairly new to charting so I am not the best help.

    AFM -

    Crazy level from 1-10: 7

    CD/DPO: CD 18

    Can I just ______ already?!: Know what's going on

    Signs/Symptoms: positive OPK

    Explain your Crazy here: Ok I am on my THIRD day of OPK's - what the hell does that mean? I missed temping yesterday and I am worried it will screw up my chart. I am thinking I O'd because today I have rise in temp - but I guess we will see from here on out. As far as I can tell I still have fertile CM but I think I have been seeing it for the last week. I really don't know what the hell is going on.

    https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/53aa50 link for mobile

     

    Edit: words are hard
    3 days of OPKs isn't unheard of. I would HIO tonight to cover my bases though. FX for a temp spike tomorrow!
  • heartbot said:
    MrsOscarFelix - I'm imagining you are about to release a rainbow-colored, glitter-covered mega-egg with your 3 straight days of + OPKs. ;)
    This visual of this made me laugh to myself!  If I start peeing glitter later I'll let you know haha. Until then I am probably going to get comfortable in the back of this train!

    Married 9/13/14

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    Me: 24 / DH: 24

    BFP#1 10/15/14 - EDD 6/19/2014 - MC 10/23/14

    BFP #2: 12/18/14 - EDD: 8/31/15 - MC 1/4/14 5w6d

    **Currently Benched until TBD**

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  • First time on the train!

    Crazy level: 5 (I'm only 3dpiui, the real madness awaits)

    CD/DPO: CD17, 3dpiui, 5dpt

    Can't I just ___ already?! Can't I just be done testing out my trigger so the real POAS madness can begin. It's no fun seeing fake two lines.

    Signs/symptoms: nada. Which of course makes me worried this cycle is a bust.

    Explain your crazy: this is my first IUI but third medicated cycle. So, the build up is bigger and I can't shake the feeling that I'm in for a big disappointment. Not to mention I got my bill from my MC ER visit, my repeat bloodwork from the RE and my trigger shot and kind of feel like I'm just running around throwing cash at people.
    Me: 32 DH: 32
    Met: 4/25/2004, Married 8/14/2010
    Off BC 1/2013 TTC (actively) since 5/2013
    5/2014 started testing with RE, me:  HSG normal, normal AMH, no cysts; DH: great sperm
    Unexplained IF + unexplained anovulation (post-pill vs hypothalamic)

    7/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFN
    8/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFP #1: 9/12/2014, EDD 5/22/2015, MMC 10/11/2014 8w1d
    11/2014 Clomid + Novarel + IUI 12/5/14: BFFN
    12/2014 Comid + Novarel + IUI 1/3/15: ???

    **PgAL/PAL welcome**

  • @PinkCamino what do you think the odds are I O'd on CD 19?  When I take away the temp for CD 15 it gives me solid CH's for that day.  I have had zero fertile symptoms since then.
    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • nikiswimr said:
    First time on the train! Crazy level: 5 (I'm only 3dpiui, the real madness awaits) CD/DPO: CD17, 3dpiui, 5dpt Can't I just ___ already?! Can't I just be done testing out my trigger so the real POAS madness can begin. It's no fun seeing fake two lines. Signs/symptoms: nada. Which of course makes me worried this cycle is a bust. Explain your crazy: this is my first IUI but third medicated cycle. So, the build up is bigger and I can't shake the feeling that I'm in for a big disappointment. Not to mention I got my bill from my MC ER visit, my repeat bloodwork from the RE and my trigger shot and kind of feel like I'm just running around throwing cash at people.

    Oh gosh, that's a lot. I've got everything crossed for you. You can hang out in the train as long as you need to.

    I don't know much about triggers, how long do they usually stay in your system?

  • Menrandes said:
    @PinkCamino what do you think the odds are I O'd on CD 19?  When I take away the temp for CD 15 it gives me solid CH's for that day.  I have had zero fertile symptoms since then.
    I think it's entirely possible. But, assuming that the temp on CD15 was taken under normal circumstances I really don't think you should discard it. What happens if you add a few high dummy temps?
  • Menrandes said:
    @PinkCamino what do you think the odds are I O'd on CD 19?  When I take away the temp for CD 15 it gives me solid CH's for that day.  I have had zero fertile symptoms since then.
    I think it's entirely possible. But, assuming that the temp on CD15 was taken under normal circumstances I really don't think you should discard it. What happens if you add a few high dummy temps?
    It takes 3 dummy high temps and then it gives me dotted CH's on CD 21.  There was one temp that was taken a little later than usual, but I can't remember which day it was!  I didn't want to discard it at the time because I thought I was close to O time and FF says that one temp doesn't matter that much.  But apparently it matters quite a bit!

    :))
    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • Menrandes said:
    Menrandes said:
    @PinkCamino what do you think the odds are I O'd on CD 19?  When I take away the temp for CD 15 it gives me solid CH's for that day.  I have had zero fertile symptoms since then.
    I think it's entirely possible. But, assuming that the temp on CD15 was taken under normal circumstances I really don't think you should discard it. What happens if you add a few high dummy temps?
    It takes 3 dummy high temps and then it gives me dotted CH's on CD 21.  There was one temp that was taken a little later than usual, but I can't remember which day it was!  I didn't want to discard it at the time because I thought I was close to O time and FF says that one temp doesn't matter that much.  But apparently it matters quite a bit!

    :))
    How frustrating!

    *shrug* sometimes we get less than perfect looking charts. There are so many factors involved (sleep quality, mouth breathing, external environment). As the days pass you may get dotted CHs for CD21 and then after a few days they may move back to CD19 depending on the ups and downs of your temp. FX for CD19!


  • @mlal78‌ no actual bbt here. I know I should, but on months that I O (there was a long stretch over a year long where I didn't at all, but things have been more regular for about two years now), there's always been a clear shift.
    I guess that couldn't always happen! The same temps in a row is definitely out of the ordinary!
    I guess next cycle I'll do quite a bit different, including a real bbt and opks!
    I'm not hopeful for this cycle at all. But I was hoping that for once I wouldn't have AF on Christmas! Seriously... Happens all the time!
    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • nikiswimr said:

    First time on the train!

    Crazy level: 5 (I'm only 3dpiui, the real madness awaits)

    CD/DPO: CD17, 3dpiui, 5dpt

    Can't I just ___ already?! Can't I just be done testing out my trigger so the real POAS madness can begin. It's no fun seeing fake two lines.

    Signs/symptoms: nada. Which of course makes me worried this cycle is a bust.

    Explain your crazy: this is my first IUI but third medicated cycle. So, the build up is bigger and I can't shake the feeling that I'm in for a big disappointment. Not to mention I got my bill from my MC ER visit, my repeat bloodwork from the RE and my trigger shot and kind of feel like I'm just running around throwing cash at people.

    Oh gosh, that's a lot. I've got everything crossed for you. You can hang out in the train as long as you need to.


    I don't know much about triggers, how long do they usually stay in your system?

    I'm not totally sure about the trigger. I didn't use it the last two times. It sounds like it could linger for anywhere from 5 to 14 days, I'm hoping for the shorter end!
    Me: 32 DH: 32
    Met: 4/25/2004, Married 8/14/2010
    Off BC 1/2013 TTC (actively) since 5/2013
    5/2014 started testing with RE, me:  HSG normal, normal AMH, no cysts; DH: great sperm
    Unexplained IF + unexplained anovulation (post-pill vs hypothalamic)

    7/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFN
    8/2014 Clomid (monitored) + TI: BFP #1: 9/12/2014, EDD 5/22/2015, MMC 10/11/2014 8w1d
    11/2014 Clomid + Novarel + IUI 12/5/14: BFFN
    12/2014 Comid + Novarel + IUI 1/3/15: ???

    **PgAL/PAL welcome**

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