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Anyone here have teenagers?

Hey! I don't go here, I stay pretty close to my BMB's. I occasionally lurk patenting though. This is going to get long.

Anyway, I am at a loss as to what to do with my teenage son, who is 14. He is failing in school, big time! Every class he's got F's. We try and help him out as much as we can, but if we help him anymore we'll be doing his assignments for him, and turning them in. Recently, he had 44 missing assignments, 28 of them being in math alone. We got his missing assignments together, and for the last month we've been working on them at home after school trying to get him caught back up. He is also supposed to go to tutoring 3 times a week for additional help.
Today is the end of the 6 week grading cycle, so we checked his progress online, and it shows now he's got 64 missing assignments! My husband and I were speechless! Come to find out all that work we've helped him on, not a single page was turned in! It's done, it's ready for turn in.... But he refuses to turn in his assignments!
We also learned that he hasn't been going to tutoring after school 3 times a week, so we are suspecting he's at his friends house that he's been grounded from.
His teacher included a note next to a missing assignment that was due yesterday, that he "refused to participate." It was an assignment he had to speak in front of the class.

When asked what is going on, his answer is always "I don't know." Or "I forgot. "

We've talked to him numerous times about how important school is, and we've set up goals with him to get him back on track. He never follows through with his set of goals. He will literally sit in class and do nothing!

We've stripped everything from his room. He's got a bed, a lamp and his dresser. That's it. We've grounded him. We've taken his friends away in hopes that would motivate him to at least try in school. He's not trying, at all. He doesn't care.

It's so hard for me to watch him go through this. He's making it harder on himself.

He's from a previous relationship. He Flys to his dad's house regularly for visits. His dad doesn't really seem to care, and he doesn't hold him responsible for his actions when it comes to school. It's always a fun party there. Going to movies, shopping, vacations, ect. I understand his dad wants to enjoy his time with him, but I feel there needs to come a point that all that stuff is cut off until he does better in school. Those things are privileges, and things that should be earned.

My husband and I do our best, but we are both at a dead end on what to do to help. How do you help someone who just doesn't care?
We are very frustrated, and I know my son is too.

Any advice? Anyone going through similar situations?


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Re: Anyone here have teenagers?

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  • We have been in contact with his teachers, and they are working with us. We didn't just find out about his grades, or his missing assignments. We've known about it, and we've been trying to play catch up. He refuses to turn any of it in though. I emailed the teachers telling them he's got X amount of work in his bag ready for turn in. But because he doesn't turn it in himself, there is nothing they can do, because it's his responsibility to turn it in. They can't go into his bag and get it.

    He struggles a little in math. But mostly he knows his stuff. He's a smart kid, he just isn't applying himself like he should.

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  • I have a 13 year old nephew who fits your story, exactly.  He just doesn't care and lies about his homework and is failing in most of his classes.  My sister put him in therapy (weekly).  She is about to pull him from it because NOTHING has changed and he is again failing his classes.  He had to take summer school last year and he barely passed the 7th grade.  Unfortunately he is my sister's kid.  He has the exact same mentality as her at that age.  She is lazy and doesn't know how to communicate with him effectively.  I look forward to reading other people's experiences and responses in this post. 

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  • He was diagnosed with ADHD in 2nd grade. It's been a struggle in school all of his life, and he's got accommodations for his school work.
    He's just been getting progressively worse with the not caring, and not even trying.

    I actually have called a therapist and we have an appointment already.

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  • @bluepointtoasted

    Yes, he's on a 504 plan. We've talked to his counselor at school about him going into a "special ed" type of class and they said they can't do that because he doesn't qualify for it.
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  • They can write additional accommodations into a 504 plan though. And has he actually been tested to determine whether or not he qualifies? With the ADHD doiagnosis and what you are explaining here, it sure sounds like he qualifies. 

    No, no testing. I didn't know they would have to test him. We were just told he wouldn't/doesn't qualify for special ed.
    We've got an upcoming IEP /504 plan renewal, so I'll specially ask about this.
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  • I didn't read any of the comments so forgive me if its been said. For our 14yo, we thought he was just being lazy but it turned out that he didn't have any confidence at all. Once we figured that out, we took steps to build his confidence like, pushing things on him that we knew he would excel in.

    He has improved significantly but it's not just on him, I had to work just as hard and most of it was keeping constant communication with the teachers.
  • I should state that Ds is and has been in special Ed.
  • That's a tough one @IAmSherlocked. I didn't really give her a choice and it probably never occurred to her that not going was an option. 

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    edited December 2014
    Great info here already.

    I just want to add, speaking from my own personal experience with testing as a teenager, sometimes waiting too long may skew scores.

    I was a lot like the OP describes.

    To an outsider I didnt care about school, but I did. The ability to stay focused was at its worst during subjects I had zero interest, and I'm a visual learner and I had zero knowledge of the proper studying practices for myself until the moment I took final exams in my senior year of college. I am able to stay organized now because I found ways to work....I'm self taught. I also got through passing college by pure luck IMO.


    My parents waited until I was 13/14, when my grades were in the crapper, and the test scores determined I was fine. However, I knew I was being tested so my mind hyper focused on the testing. My sons psychologist said that, that is the case with some children!

    Young children will help keep scores more accurate.

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  • Thank all of you! I really appreciate your feedback. We are/have been in the process of getting him into counseling. I just hope he'll go and use it. I feel like there is some depression here as well. It hurts to see your child going through this and feeling like there is nothing more you can do.

    He has never been a part of the IEP or 504 plan discussions, but I'd like him to be. I'll make sure that happens this time, that way he knows, and he can help make goals.

    I think he is lacking confidence as well. Hopefully once he starts therapy it'll help him, and me understand this better and we can get him on track to be successful.
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  • Thank you @TyrannosaurusLex‌
    I tell him all the time how smart he is, he really is!

    Was there anything your parents did to help you? Did you just one day snap into it? Anything help you? Anything motivate you?

    I actually had a good talk with him tonight about what he's feeling. He opened up a little- not a whole lot. ... But I'll take it. It's a step.

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  • I agree with others that there may be more going on here, but as a high school teacher, I have a few suggestions about getting work turned in.

    I've been encouraging students to take advantage of technology - use planner apps, set reminders on their phone, etc. Both to remember to do homework, and get it turned in. Is that an option? It could go off at the end of every clad proud with a reminder.
    I'm just thinking if you see him do work at home, but the teacher never gets it, that might help.
    Do any of the teachers accept online work? My students can email assignments and sometimes, they'll email me pictures of something they completed but left at home. That way, he can do the work and pass it in ASAP and not worry about losing it in the black hole of a backpack.

    I have some kids who do a parental-enforced progress report every week. It's the kid's responsibility to bring it to the teacher and the teacher gives marks for homework/conduct/classwork from that week. If the kid doesn't bring it home, or doesn't meet parents expectations, there's a consequence.
  • Unfortunately, he lost his phone.... (The second time in fact, and I will not get him another) so using his phone to set a reminder won't work. Maybe if it's found that would be an option.

    His one teacher allowed him to finish his power point presentation at home and we've emailed that, but as far as I know everything else is stuff done on paper in class. .. With the exception of his game design class.

    I like the idea of the parent enforced progress report, so I'll bring that up during our meeting with the school.

    He mentioned yesterday during our talk that he doesn't like to ask his teachers for help, despite knowing that he needs help on certain things. Any idea how we can encourage him to ask his teachers for help?
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  • I've had some parents and kids set up a weekly after school session with me. They come every Wed, or whatever, whether or not they need help. Sometimes the parents check up to see if they're coming, sometimes they don't bother and I'll get back in touch when things go off the rails again. We go over anything they're missing and then if they're doing ok, they just sit and do their homework, then pass it in.

    That one on one time that they're forced to spend with me helps. They have my undivided attention, unlike in class, so I can go over the whole homework and catch where they struggle. And I think it makes them feel like they might as well ask their questions/they get more comfortable.

    Good luck.
  • I don't have teenagers but do have a son with ADD who HATES school so this could be my future...

    Anyway, I have found with my DS that he is VERY motivated with positive reinforcement.  He was really struggling and I met with his teacher and she made a point of telling him he did a good job on something and he felt so much better about himself, and stopped hating school for about 2 weeks, and with that started trying harder.  Unfortunately about 2 weeks later we've slid back into "school is torture" but I meet with his teacher again Monday so I plan on telling her how much that compliment meant to him and encourage more positive reinforcement.

    Anyway, our school has a program that you customize that when your childs grade goes below a certain level (you set the level) you are immediately emailed. I believe you can also set it to be notified when a certain number of homework assignments have not been turned in, and the teachers put the homework on the website so you know what is due. Maybe something like this would be an option?   
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