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Would you say something? kinda long

Bare with me here, while I attempt to lay the story out in an organized manner. Hopefully you guys follow me.

There seems to be a bit of an issue with my SIL. Not only with me, but with my parents as well, and it hasn't been addressed with my brother yet. My SIL has a very explosive personality, and while usually she is a nice girl, when something pisses her off or doesn't go her way, she goes from 0 to 80 in about 2.5 seconds. She's had no qualms with quite literally flipping her shit and screaming at my brother in front of our family while at my parents' house during family visits/functions and has done it several times. She was previously on meds which helped her a lot, before getting pregnant, but stopped taking them when they found out she was KU. Thats when shit really hit the fan. But either way, I tend to stay out of it bc its not my business to handle.

My mom comes to me quite often to vent about this, and her and my SIL have even argued face to face about stuff several times, but no matter what my brother never seems to get involved. It usually ends with the conversation ending and then hours later my SIL acts like nothing ever happened. My mom has been reluctant to bring anything up to my brother again...I'm not sure why. I think she maybe doesn't want to piss my brother off. Idk.

A few weeks ago, when I was down visiting, SIL and I were talking about baby names (she's due with their first in march), and she mentioned one name she really likes and one name my brother likes. She mentioned the name my brother liked in a way that led me to believe she wasn't a fan of it, so I was frank and told her I didn't like like name (i may have laughed and said in jest "tell my brother that name sounds ridiculous!") but i said the name she suggested was cute. In hindsight, I should've refrained from making the comment I made. I feel a little bad about it now that I know it hurt her feelings...but my family and I are pretty blunt with each other and joke around all the time, so I guess i wasnt thinking and didnt expect her to take it so personally.

Either way...not my kid, so who cares what I think? There have been times when my family bawks/makes comments about names I like, and IDGAF...bc not their kid, not their decision. Just their opinion. I just cant seem to get it up over trivial crap like someone disliking a name I like. But I digress.

Well apparently I offended her, and she held a grudge (although she acted fine towards me over thanksgiving). She ended up going and crying to my mom (like sobbing uncontrollably) about it, but no one said anything to me, so I had no idea there was even an issue. Then she proceeded to talk a bunch of crap to my mom about me, judging a purchase I made for xmas while we were in town visiting them, and making unnecessary comments (to my own mother, mind you) about MH and my financial situation, including rude commentslike "well why doesnt she just get a job then?" Huh. Ok. Crossing the MFing line much?

Of course this is all second hand from my mom since i wasnt there to hear it, but according to my mom, this is when their conversation got heated bc of course my mom got defensive hearing her DIL talk shit about her own daughter (No-brainer IMO). My brother was not present for any of this, and of course my mom couldn't keep it from me (although I sort of wish she had now). Im also not sure why my SIL would thinkit was ok to spout that kind of shit to my mom.

Before hearing about SILs commentary on my financial situation, I was debating on whether or not I should just apologize for the dumb comment I made about the damn baby name, but now I feel I dont owe her shit and I'm just pissed. Im pissed bc of the shit she puts my mom through with her explosive antics (Granted, my mom allows it and so does my brother apparently) and I'm pissed bc she's overstepping her boundaries big time here. Do I confront her? Confront my brother who is well aware of the way his wife acts but chooses to ignore it? Or do I keep my mouth shut and not engage the petty drama?

Perhaps my hormones are getting the best of me right now and causing me to be more pissed than I should be. IDK. Wwyd? Sorry for the tl; dr.
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  • @loislayn I tend to agree with you, although luckily we'll be staying home this year, since I'll be almost 37weeks along and my dr did not clear me for out of state travel.

    But I also nder if bringing it up will only cause more drama for the family instead of resolving the issue. Kwim? SIL has proven to be NOTthe most logical.
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  • Also, my brother doesnt seem to do a damn thing when she acts like a GD fool woth her outbursts.
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  • I got a headache just reading that. I wouldn't say anything. I try not to engage in my SIL's antics because there's no reasoning with BSC.
  • @guiltypleasures‌ haha, sorry gor the headache inducing novel. Once I typed it all out I said to myself "holy shit this sounds pretty fucking ridiculous".
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  • My advice is to ignore it.  Based on my personal experience, no amount of confronting is going to help the situation, and is more likely to inflame it.  I would just remain polite but detached, and if you are tired of hearing it from your mother, ask her to vent somewhere else.


  • fredalina said:

    MrsT0514 said:

    Also, my brother doesnt seem to do a damn thing when she acts like a GD fool woth her outbursts.

    What can he do? He can't embarrass her in front of other people as that would be pretty rude. Maybe they talk about it in private, or maybe he knows she's nuts but what can you do?
    I understand that its not like he's gonna say something to her in the midst of it all or confront her in front of all of us, but over the holiday, we literally witnessed her scream at him like a banshee over something ridiculous and 10 minutes later he was all "ok pumpkin, lets go get your crackers for you since you're feeling sick". Uh...wut?
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  • MrsT0514 said:
    @guiltypleasures‌ haha, sorry gor the headache inducing novel. Once I typed it all out I said to myself "holy shit this sounds pretty fucking ridiculous".
    It's okay. Lol I understand. Accord to my SIL I'm a horrible person because I got new boots when she couldn't afford to. Just shrug it off. No matter what she's going to find something to be ridiculous about because that's what people like her do.
  • Yeah. You guys are right, it most likely would not help the situation to confront her and it would probably only cause tension with my brother. Sometimes I'm not sure if he genuinely doesn't see how BSC her behavior is or if he is just choosing to ignore it, but oh well.

    And I ended up telling my mom to not tell about these things in the future bc honestly ot just pisses me off. I'm not the type of person that can let it all slide. Im more of a "ok lets deal with this shit head on, even if its uncomfortable" type of person. I just cant believe she lets it keep happening in her home.
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  • Yeah ...can't reason with BSC so best tactic would be to ignore it

    But I'd also refrain from really engaging with her in general beyond basic pleasantries and general politeness at family functions from now on if this is the way she's going to be.  No need to get in deep with that kind of person, SIL or not... I don't have the time or patience for that shit.

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  • Your SIL sounds an aweful lot like mine. My suggestion is to just ignore her, and go on about your business. I have to do that in order to see my brother, and his kids. I know it's hard, but I think that you saying something to her might make things harder for him.

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  • Team ignore. You will not win anything by confronting and probably will make it worse.




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  • loislayn said:

    Can you just, avoid her? Like, don't be around her by any means necessary.

    Yeah I mean, luckily, they live OOS where the rest of our family lives so we dont see them much. But, she is quite literally my brother's shadow and will not let him go anywhere without her (literally, she worked the night shift and instead of going home to sleep for the day, she insisted on coming with my brother to visit me, mh, and ds at my mom's house so she slept on my mom's couch all day). So besides the fact that she's my brother's wife and they are a package deal, if I want to see my brother at all, I will have to deal with her.
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  • @mcbenny I was questioning whether or not to confront her considering she's sticking her nose in business its doesnt belong in (i.e. rude comments re: my and MH's financial situation all bc she had a hair across her ass about a baby name I made a dumb comment about).

    But either way, you mske a valid point. This is all "he said she said" conaidering the whole conversation was relayed to me second hand by my mom. So yeah. Moot point I guess
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  • Pregnancy rage is real though, I feel you on that.

    for real. That shit is no joke.
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  • MrsT0514MrsT0514 member
    edited December 2014

    MrsT0514 said:

    Cate1234 said:

    No, I would not get involved.  If your mom has a problem with her, she should address it with SIL.  If your mom is upset that your SIL is shit talking you, she should shut the conversation down instead of telling you all about it after the fact. 


    I agree with you there. Sometimes I feel like my mom is just stirring the proverbial pot by relaying this shit to me.
    For real! Not to bash your mom, but it sounds like she is really shit stirring here.
    Nah, no offense taken at all. Literally I said to MH, I kind of dont know where the real issue lies...the fact that my SIL is BSC and feels its ok to talk shit about me to my own mother, or the fact that my mother insists on playing the telephone game by relaying this crap to me, but then says "dont bother confronting her...it wont do anything to change the situation". Like wtf? Aint nobody got time for high school type drama. Dont bother telling me if you're not prepared to actually do something about it.

    I mean, my mom always comes from a place of "well you're my daughter and my allegiance lies with you over her, so I could never keep this from you" type of angle, but still. I sorta feel like, well what good does it do to tell me this stuff if no one is gonna say anything to SIL about her asshattery?
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  • No worries @bearsbearsbears. You dont sound like an ass. I love my mom to death and we've always been close, but I've even said to MH many times that I feel like my mom has changed a lot in the almost 2 yrs since I had DS1. And sure, I've changed too since becoming a mom myself, so naturally, my relationship with her has certainly changed.

    I feel like she gets so caught up in petty bullshit now that she never used to. It also seems like she has a hard time accepting that her and I have our differences and we won't always agree on everything, as well as the fact that the dynamic of our relationship will change over time.
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  • I wouldn't say anything to her but I would be concerned for him....

    Which I certainly am concerned about the way she treats him...but then again, he knew what he was signing up for by marrying her, so I tend to mind my own bc he's a big boy and he'll handle it how he sees fit, I guess.
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  • @fredalina‌ I can where you're coming from there. I try my best to be understanding of the circumstances for her, but I feel like compassion for her would come easier if she at least offered an apology for outbursts and offhanded remarks like this. But that never happens. She'll come up with every excuse in the book to justify her actions, which is ridiculously exhausting.
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  • rvasc said:

    Yeah, the person you need to talk to is your mom. Who knows who is engaging? My MIL tries to talk to me about my SIL (her daughter) sometimes, and I'm like, nope, nope, nope.

    Yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if i said I didn't sometimes wonder if my mom played both sides of the fence from time to time. Like when my mom and I disagree on stuff, does she mention it to her? Idk. I'd hate to think my mom would do that, bc her and I are so close....but I do wonder at times. Why else would SIL think it'd be acceptable to make comments about me to my own mom? Unless my mom just lets it fly and continues to allow it.
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  • @ClaryPax‌ I do think a lot of the problem here is my mom's inability to stop playing the "telephone game" and just address the issue head on. Her MO seems to be to act like a doormat and just put up with shit for so Long until she finally cant take it anymore.

    Normally she just takes it, lets it fly, stuffs it, and bitches about it to someone else (that someone is usually me). But if she just handled the situation then in there with SIL, there would be no reason to have to relay a bunch of useless shit to me. So yeah...I get frustrated listening to it. Mostly bc it never seems to change.
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  • The one thing I can think of is regarding her antics. Honestly, she might not think she is that bad or is doing anything wrong. Maybe she thinks 'better out than in' and 'deal with it in the moment' when it comes to your brother. Or maybe this is just the way she is and yor brother has learned to just shake it off and move on.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending her actions, but I am saying I understand.

    I know I tend to errupt at hubby because I feel safe with him. I know he loves me and is going to keep loving me, even if I snap at him. So when I have a hard time dealing with something or am projecting my stress/anxiety, he often gets the brunt of it. It doesn't mean I don't love him or anything like that. Maybe she is the same way?
  • @golfergirl08‌ My sentiments exactly. I just wish she could've come to me and aired any grievance directly ( or in my moms case she couldve just dealt things herself and nipped it in the bud) instead creating a bunch of drama surrounding it. Its that easy. Bring it up, talk it out, boom done. Everybody moves on.
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  • MrsT0514MrsT0514 member
    edited December 2014
    @ScoutNumbers05 you are so right. I think I let her words bother me more than I should have. I guess its just plain shitty to find out that my SIL, who's only been married to my brother & a part of our family since June of this year, has the nerve to judge and say shit about me when we only see them once every few months and she barely even knows me. Kwim? I consider myself to be a pretty easy going, easy to get along with type of gal, so I'm not sure where the negativity on her part is coming from. But, like others have mentioned, thats HER issue I guess. Not mine.

    As for my mom, I love her to death, but she does enable people and inappropriate behavior. Its become more and more apparent in the last few years. She keeps allowing SIL to act a fool with her emotional outbursts in front of her and my step dad (as well as anyone else who happens to be around at the time) and does nothing to stop it. She lets people walk all over her and then she just comes and vents/bitches to me about it instead of confronting them. Which sucks bc she's an incredibly kind and giving person, but I wish she'd just stand up for herself more.

    And apparently she did not know how to put her foot down when SIL decided it was a good idea to talk crap about me. She just allowed it. But again..I guess this all comes down to the issue not being mine to confront or get involved with.
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