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WWPD?

DD1 has grown to be an increasingly picky eater. Tonight, she took things to the next level for her. When she saw what was for dinner she shoved it into the sink and crumbled her bun on the floor. We told her she could not have dessert and she refused to eat her dinner the rest of the night. Do I send her to bed with nothing or at least try to give her a granola bar and milk?
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Re: WWPD?

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  • That's kind of the point I am at. I know she is hungry. I just can't bring myself to send her to bed without something in her tummy. Dinner was one of her favorites but every day she seems to decide she hates everything she has ever eaten.
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  • How old is she? I'm mobile.

    She is only 3.
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  • DS1 is 3 and ridiculously picky. Our rule is eat what's served, or an apple. My kid eats apples for dinner most nights.

    If this becomes an ongoing thing, you might want to pick an alternative option that you're comfortable with.

    On nights when dessert is offered, he has to try at least 1 bite of everything on his plate, (and then finish his apple if he chooses it) in order to earn the treat.
  • I like having an alternative. My H is in the mindset that you eat what is on your plate or nothing at all. I just can't bring myself to put her to bed with nothing. She is an awesome breakfast eater! It is just something about dinner that is becoming quite the problem.
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  • I would offer something like apples, carrot sticks etc. If you offer something "good" like a granola bar my kid would start refusing every meal so she could get granola bar.
    I make sure I offer at least one thing per mealthat the kid likes. You have my sorries. My DD was a horrible eater . She got better sound age four.




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  • Joy1192 said:

    I like having an alternative. My H is in the mindset that you eat what is on your plate or nothing at all. I just can't bring myself to put her to bed with nothing. She is an awesome breakfast eater! It is just something about dinner that is becoming quite the problem.

    It's silly to punish her for having a preference at this time. Make sure she eats and goes to bed. 

    See? I think so too. I feel it is something he was raised with whereas my parents allowed us an alternative.
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  • I notice with both my good eater and my picky one that dinner is hit or miss. They both eat huge, usually healthy, breakfasts, and good size lunches. They frequently pick at or refuse dinner. I try not to worry about it because I know they're getting good calories during the day, and that I'm offering food. I believe they'll eat when hungry enough.

    Also, I love not having to battle at meal time. It cuts his whining off at the knees if I say that's ok, you can have an apple. Sometimes I think he just likes to fight me about food.
  • @74dragonfly‌ that is a good point. I know she will always eat an apple so I will use that as my alternative instead of granola bars!
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  • I'm with @ASmallWonder‌. My two and a half year old has gone to bed dinnerless because she suddenly decides a previously OK meal is inedible. I have noticed that on nights she is hungry, she will continue to whine and push for something else. In that case I stick to a firm two bites and you can have something else rule (# bites equals years of age). On nights she isn't hungry she doesn't push things and goes to bed without. She eats well throughout the day, and is a giant for her age, so I tend not to worry about missing a meal here or there. If it wa s every night, I might look for a different tactic.

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  • We usually offer a healthy alternative--banana, orange or carrot sticks and milk.

    But weight is something we were about with DD so we don't want her to go to bed hungry. 
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  • The definite issue is that she is crushing up food to avoid eating it. Is this just being a picky eater or having an attitude? Her little face just melts my heart so I tend to be pretty soft towards her.

    At what point do you offer the alternative? After offering the meal again later if she still rejects it?
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  • Joy1192 said:

    The definite issue is that she is crushing up food to avoid eating it. Is this just being a picky eater or having an attitude? Her little face just melts my heart so I tend to be pretty soft towards her.

    At what point do you offer the alternative? After offering the meal again later if she still rejects it?

    I mean yes, kids were designed to be cute so we would do ridiculous things to ensure their survival, but come on, you know crushing her bread is a behavioural issue, not an innate "picky eating" response. Do you want her to crush her bread at someone else's house when she doesn't like what's served? Or do you want her to focus on whatever on the plate is palatable and not make a scene?
    You are absolutely right.
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  • No, @TyrannosaurusLex‌. I am glad you said it. I feel like I let guilt get in the way of sticking to my guns. I always make sure to plan meals based on things she enjoys so there is no reason for her to throw a fit about what is served. I certainly don't want her to be a hellion in public or get worse as time goes on.
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  • One thing that helped us was to tell DS he doesn't have to like it, but he does need to eat a set number of bites (usually 2-4) and then he can be done.

    I've never had him fight about taking those bites. Usually he seems to be relieved he doesn't have to finish it all.

    I'd say 90% of the time he eats most of his plate after an initial protest.

    If he says he doesn't like something that he has before I'll usually say "that's funny, you liked it before." Sometimes he's messing with me and sometimes I'll habe changed something in the prep and he's noticed. Because I don't tell him he does like it, we don't argue about if he likes it or not. He knows he needs to eat a bit (I don't serve his hated potatoes or lentils) and that it is not polite to complain about food to someone else, like if we are at a dinner party.


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  • One thing that helped us was to tell DS he doesn't have to like it, but he does need to eat a set number of bites (usually 2-4) and then he can be done.

    I've never had him fight about taking those bites. Usually he seems to be relieved he doesn't have to finish it all.

    I'd say 90% of the time he eats most of his plate after an initial protest.

    If he says he doesn't like something that he has before I'll usually say "that's funny, you liked it before." Sometimes he's messing with me and sometimes I'll habe changed something in the prep and he's noticed. Because I don't tell him he does like it, we don't argue about if he likes it or not. He knows he needs to eat a bit (I don't serve his hated potatoes or lentils) and that it is not polite to complain about food to someone else, like if we are at a dinner party.

    I should start making her try a set amount of bites. I have done it a few times and usually she will only take the bites if she gets a reward after. She's stubborn, for sure!
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  • I'm in the hardness team. My kids would never eat what's served if they knew pb&j or even fruit and cheese were alternatives every time. My 3 yo will sometimes ask me to make piles of her food, then she picks which pile she wants to eat. Another take on the minimum bites I guess. She's gone to bed with essentially no dinner a couple times. I'm a little more lenient with the little one, mainly bc I do t want a hungry 13 month old up at 2am.
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  • I'm not gonna lie, my 3 year old is a fairly good eater (as far as 3 year olds go). I do find that sometimes she is ravenous, sometimes she hardly eats all day. She does have some foods she doesn't care for though. I always put some of everything on her plate (whether she will touch it or not). Just recently I have noticed she is eating things she normally would not touch before(salad). If I cook something she doesn't like I pair it with something she does and then encourage her to take one tiny, little taste of the food she doesn't care for, in order to get a second helping of the food she does. I have never offered her an alternative to dinner so she has never thought about having one. If she made a mess with her food (on purpose) she would be cleaning it up and done.
  • Joy1192 said:

    One thing that helped us was to tell DS he doesn't have to like it, but he does need to eat a set number of bites (usually 2-4) and then he can be done.

    I've never had him fight about taking those bites. Usually he seems to be relieved he doesn't have to finish it all.

    I'd say 90% of the time he eats most of his plate after an initial protest.

    If he says he doesn't like something that he has before I'll usually say "that's funny, you liked it before." Sometimes he's messing with me and sometimes I'll habe changed something in the prep and he's noticed. Because I don't tell him he does like it, we don't argue about if he likes it or not. He knows he needs to eat a bit (I don't serve his hated potatoes or lentils) and that it is not polite to complain about food to someone else, like if we are at a dinner party.

    I should start making her try a set amount of bites. I have done it a few times and usually she will only take the bites if she gets a reward after. She's stubborn, for sure!
    His reward is he gets to go play with his toys once he's been excused, not sit with the boring adults.


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  • My son is a terribly picky eater. I don't know when it happened or what even caused it. He'll eat at daycare, mostly, but at home he won't even try what we make. I know he eats well at daycare, he loves breakfast. I fix his plate and he throws a fit. It's a fight that we're Constantly fighting and it's tiring.

    Recently he's started eating new things (he snacked on raw carrots tonight! Yay!) he loves 'baby trees' and pretends he's a dinosaur to eat them. Mostly his issue is with meat, which I get. I've gathered lots of good ideas here and I hope I can fix it.

    Usually though, when he won't eat supper he gets an alternate meal -- fruit, yogurt, peanut butter sandwich, cheese stick.

    What do you do when you offer the food the first time and they refuse it? There's a little break between offering t to them a second time -- are they able to be excused from The table or do they have to wait?
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    Many nights DS will refuse to eat his dinner, and will not ask for anything to eat as an alternative. I will sometimes offer an alternative...but he will usually say no thank you. Some nights DS will refuse to eat dinner and then later ask for goldfish, or cookies. We say no to that, and say he could have his dinner.


    Now if he has a hissy fit, he must go to his room and have a tantrum in there. Once he comes out he must apologize for the poor behavior and he can then either sit with us and eat or go play quietly in his room.


    DS is a very picky eater, and is known to skip meals . I do give heavy caloric preferred meals in the mornings and afternoons (Pediasure, PBJs, Chicken Nuggets, etc.).

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  • My alternative failed but I will just keep at it! She wanted cookies and ice cream for an alternative. I said no and she ended up falling asleep. She's a girl who knows what she wants!
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  • A good friend of mine is a nutritionist and she says the general rule is that before three you should offer them whatever they eat. After three years of age though, she says they are developmentally able to understand the choice they are making and won't starve themselves if they are genuinely hungry.

    For this reason, if DS chooses not to eat, we put the plate away and offer it again later if he's hungry. The only exceptions I make is if it's something I know he doesn't like and in that case I'll offer a healthy alternative.

    Obviously if there are concerns about weight gain or other medical issues at play this would look different.

    Her pediatrician said that as well. I guess it just seems strange to put her to bed with nothing if she refuses her meal?

    She just doesn't have the love for food that I have! ;)
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  • The other thing to keep in mind is that kids usually don't need as many as calories as we think they do. So she may truly not be hungry if she ate well the rest of the day. So unless she's saying she's hungry, I wouldn't feel too bad. And if she is saying she's hungry, I would just reiterate that if she's hungry she can eat what everyone else had for dinner and that it's her choice. If she's truly stubborn, one night won't hurt. But if it becomes an every night, then I would reassess my strategy.

    Oh that is an excellent point. She did eat her entire breakfast, a big lunch, and a snack. She told me she was hungry but wouldn't eat her dinner or an alternative. She just wanted treats so I don't think she was truly hungry. Definitely tired since she fell asleep on the couch!
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  • @ASmallWonder‌ +1 over here. I always make at least 1 thing at every meal I know my picky kids will eat & they have to eat at least that. Don't want your chicken? Fine but eat your mac n cheese (or whatever).

    We do sit down dinners every night so its a routine for them from the beginning. Even the baby is in her bouncy seat at the table with us. I also have to limit their after school snacks bc we tend to eat pretty early. They get 1 small snack when we get home, around 3:30, dinner is usually about 5-5:30, & then they can have a snack/dessert after baths (what kind of snack/dessert depenends on how well they ate their dinner). Consistency works best.
  • My boys were/are picky eaters and age 3 was the peak of that trend.

    I subscribed to the notion when it comes to food that the parent decides what and when and the child decides how much.

    For breakfast, lunch and snacks our expectations were usually the same but dinner was hit or miss. I tried to have 2 dinners a week that were kid friendly and also have at least one thing on the plate that was a known winner. I tried not to worry about how much they ate at dinner knowing that they had generally eaten well throughout the day. Blatent misbehaviour at the table however was never tolerated.

    If a kid of mine refused most of or all of their dinner, that was ok but if they came looking for food later on, I would direct them to their plate of uneaten food.

    Now that they are a bit older (nearly 6 and 7) we insist they try everything and remind them that dinner is not just for eating but for enjoying each other's company. Dinner is typically without any drama now, I think staying the course was a good choice and has worked out for us as they eat or try a variety of foods and we can spend that much needed time sitting together as a family without distractions.

    Age 3 is tough though, I remember have some success with my kids serving them on smaller plates. Sometimes I think facing a big plate of an unknown or unwanted food was too daunting. Making the plate smaller seemed more manageable for them. Sometimes.
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