Trouble TTC

Intro post, with treatment guesses welcome

History: dx with PCOS at 19, irregular cycles for as long as I remember. On and off BCP before I got married, but consistently on BCP since married at 25 (now mid 30s). Went off BCP to TTC in spring 2013 and waiting to see if my cycle might regulate. It didn't. In December 2013 I saw OBGYN for irregular bleeding and to discuss TTC. At that time I went back on BCP to await u/s and eventual HSC with polyp removal in spring 2014. Went off BCP again after HSC recovery. DH did SA in late spring 2014 before I went on any meds. Did three cycles of Clomid 50mg cd3-7 with OBGYN over summer 2014. Did minimal blood work monitoring, no u/s monitoring, and used OPKS. OPKs and blood work confirmed ovulation 2/3 months I was on Clomid. After O was not detected in 3rd month on Clomid, I was referred to an RE. I just did a HSG and confirmed clear tubes. Have an appointment the week after next to discuss treatment options. If you have PCOS, clear tubes, and good SA, where did your RE begin with treatments?

Re: Intro post, with treatment guesses welcome

  • I'm no expert, but wouldn't regulating your cycles be a good place to start? Clomid didn't seem to work (and unmonitored isn't good in the first place), but maybe Metformin? They will probably recommend medicated cycles with iui ultimately, as it seems to be the goto initial treatment. Good luck.
    TTCAL January Siggy Challenge: Animals in the Snow

    image

      
    About Me: 

    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

    image

    My Ovulation Chart
  • Loading the player...
  • I am not a RE, so I cannot say what your RE will do, but AFM, I was in a similar situation a few months ago as you. My RE started conservatively with a monitored cycle with CD3 blood work, U/S, and then letrozole (Femera). I had an US on CD12, decided to do a trigger shot to induce ovulation and then do TI. I think most REs start with something along those lines, unless you have a more significant diagnosis that needs assistive reproductive technology like IUI or IVF. 

    Good luck with your RE and welcome! 
    *************
    ****SIGGY WARNING****

    Me: 28, PCOS 
    DH:29 (SA normal)
    Married June 2012
    TTC since Nov. 2013 
    Met with OBGYN to discuss lack of AF....

    May 2014: Metformin 500mg
    July 2014: Clomid 50mg, never O'd
    Sept 2014: Clomid 100mg, O'd (yay!) CD21, BFN - Discovered OB sucks, made appt with RE
    Oct/Nov 2014: 1st appt with RE, Femera 7.5mg + Trigger + TI = BFN
    Nov/Dec 2014: HSG(all clear), Femera 7.5mg + Trigger + TI = BFP!! EDD 8/29/15
    Beta #1 = 755
    Beta #2 = 1208

    BabyFruit Ticker
  • Welcome, I am glad you are working with a RE now.
    Me: 37                                               
    DH: 45
    BFP #1 3/19/14  EDD 11/29/14 MMC D&C 4/24/14
    BFP #2  12/4/14 Beta #1 218 at 12dpo Beta #2 1055 at 16dpo
    Saw heartbeat 12/29.  Please be a rainbow.
    imagerainbows
              
    All welcome                                   
                              
  • Welcome! Sorry you have to be here, but it sounds like you're in the right place. I'm technically annovulatory with polycystic ovaries (not officially PCOS). My RE had me start on clomid and recommended IUI. DH wanted to start as "naturally" as possible, so we did timed intercourse for two cycles. The RE gave us our options, but really left it up to us to decide how aggressive we wanted to be with treatment. Good luck!
    Me & DH: Both 30 / Married 3 years / TTC since 10/2013
    Dx: Annovulatory
    8/2014: Clomid (50 & 100) + TI = BFN
    10/2014: Clomid (100 & 150) + TI = BFN
    12/2014: Follistim/Ovidrel/Endometrin + TI = BFN
    1/2015: Follistim/Ovidrel/Endometrin + IUI
  • Welcome. I don't know much about treatment options for your situation, but I wish you the best of luck with the RE next week :)
    ****SIGGY WARNING****

    image





    TTC since May 2013

    Me: 31, blocked tube
    DH: 35, azoospermia :(
    IUI #1 (50 mg Clomid, Ovidrel) on 9/7/2014: BFN
    IUI #2 (100 mg Clomid, Ovidrel) on 10/3/2014:
    BFN
    IUI #3 (100 mg Clomid, Ovidrel, Estradiol) on 11/1/2014: BFN
    First RE appt. on 11/11/2014
    November 2014: Benched due to cyst :(
    IUI #4 (5 mg Letrozole, Follistim, Ovidrel, Crinone) on 12/26/2014: BFP!!!
    Beta 1 (1/9/2015): 292     Beta 2 (1/12/2015): 843


  • So glad you're working with an RE now.  I also have PCOS, and you can almost copy/paste @cbnola71's, except my RE went with Clomid instead of Femara.  It does seem to be a pretty standard spot to start with PCOS (and they'd most likely have you start with TI rather than IUI, unless there were any potential issues that showed up in the SA). 

    Thanks to all of you, especially those with similar experience. No issues on SA. Since I didn't respond reliably well to Clomid, I'm hoping to try femara and TI. If necessary, can they add trigger during a femara cycle, if it's deemed the treatment isn't sufficient?
  • I don't have any Femara experience firsthand, but it took my first cycle with my RE to discover that I respond to Clomid in that I produce follicles, but I don't ovulate without the trigger.  So if they don't add a trigger the first cycle, they'll know by the second if you need one.  (That said, I wish my RE's practice did triggers as SOP, because then we wouldn't have "lost" that month.)

    So do I have to "lose" a cycle if we don't plan for a trigger and I needed it, or can they catch the non-response and add a trigger within that cycle if we're watching for it?
  • Welcome. I do not have PCOS but did just finish a cycle with Femera. It was my first cycle. I was completely annovulatory on my own. I did normal baseline b/w and ultrasound. Then a mid cycle u/s where my follicle wasn't ready yet so I went back a few days later they were happy with where it was and told me to trigger that night as my body didn't seem ready to O on its own. They kind of based my trigger or not to trigger as to how my body responded. Since I needed the trigger the first cycle I am assuming I will plan on it for the remainder of my cycles as well. I am not sure what your RE will decided is best for your situation as everyone is different. That is just my experience with Femera, trigger, and TI. Good luck!
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
    Cycle 3-January (TI)- Femera 5 mg, 2mg Estra
    doil, and Trigger=


  • Thanks, snd1213. That's good background.
  • Welcome and sorry you finnd yourself here. Like PP said I'm not sure exactly what your RE will decide. I don't have PCOS but have experience with Femera. I have done 3 cycles medicated. They have monitored closely each cycle, the first cycle they said I was showing some signs of LH surge, but didn't want to risk me not o'ing on my own, so they gave me the trigger and had IUI the next day. My second cycle they just automatically gave me the trigger (not sure why) and then IUI the following day. This month they waited to get my BW which showed I was having my LH surge, so said I did not need the trigger. We are doing TI this cycle, so I will go tomorrow am to confirm whether I did O. Good luck with your appointment.

    ************Siggy warning, LO & loss***************

    Me 37 - DH 37 unexplained infertility
    DS born 09/99
    TTC since 2010
    12/11 BFP - ectopic, received methotrexate, benched 4 months 
    08/14 - exploring fertility options

    Tubes clear, SA for DH all clear
    10/14- #1 IUI (femera/ovadril/progesterone), 2 follicles 22/17, post wash count 94 million BFN

    10/14 - #2 IUI (Femera/ovidrel/progesterone ), 2 follies 19/20, post wash 111 million, BFN Dec 2014 Femera BFFN Taking a break to explore foster to adopt!

  • Welcome, though sorry you have to be here! Glad you're working with an RE. And congrats on clear tubes!

    With a good SA, it will likely be an option to go with TI at first. 

    If you want a trigger, you could just explain that OPKs have not been reliable for you in the past. They will probably be happy to add a trigger shot.
    January 3T Siggy Challenge - New Year's Resolutions
    image
    imageimage

    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
    ***All Welcome***
  • Welcome, but sorry you find yourself here. Glad you are with an RE now!

    I too have a dx of PCOS. Ditto what @cbnola71‌ said, but I am taking letrozole instead of clomid. I do not have a trigger shot planned for this cycle and am now starting to worry about loosing a month like @BlueFairy5‌ pointed out. Great advice about the trigger shot @BunnyBerry‌.

    This board is truly amazing and the ladies are very knowledgable. GL and I hope your stay is short!
This discussion has been closed.
Choose Another Board
Search Boards
"
"