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Which progesterone support do you perfer? (Sig. Warning)

Last cycle I was on endometrin, and it was really messy, (TMI) I want scratch so much that I was bleeding down there and was a pain to walk. I want to switch to PIO, but DH is afraid of needles and would not inject me. What is your experience with Crinone, Endometrin, or PIO. 

Re: Which progesterone support do you perfer? (Sig. Warning)

  • I prefer the PIO due to the mess and expense of the suppositories (PIO is much less expensive for me).  There are videos on how to do IM injections yourself if DH can't help you out.  Good luck
    Melissa - 36   DH - 42
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    PCOS, MTHFR, MFI
    TTC # 1 4+years
    6 months Clomid/Unmonitored TI with GYN
    1st RE visit Jan'11
    7 Clomid IUI's 3/11-3/12 - 4 with DS
    8/11 Clomid/IUI/DS - BFP!  MMC 8 weeks D&C 10/11
    4/12 Moving on to IVF!
    8/12 IVF/ICSI 16R/6M/5F 5DT of 2 blasts, froze 1 BFP! Heart beat at 7wk us! MMC 9 weeks D&C 10/12
    1/13 FET Transferred our 1 frozen blast - BFN
    6/13 IVF/ICSI 27R/17M/7F 3DT 2 embryos, froze 1 hatching blast - BFN  
    11/14 IVF 33R/28M/20F (12/16F DH/ICSI, 8/12F DS/Natural) - 5dt of 2 morulas - BFP! 
                   Beta 1 12dp5dt - 162
                   Beta 2 15dp5dt - 414  
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  • I prefer PIO. The injections really aren't as bad as I first expected. I hate......hate crinone. It was disgusting and made me itch so badly.
    Me: 38
    DX:  Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant

    DH: 34
    MFI due to Testicular Cancer

    Married March 2012 <3
    IVF w/ICSI #1
    10 little polar bears
    FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN :(
    FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
    Beta 1= 276
    Beta 2= 662
    4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
    5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
    5/3/14 ~ D&C
    FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
    October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
    Fur Children:  Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y



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  • I'm on both Crinone and PIO right now. I've used prometrium once prior to ET. I would take the PIO hands down, any day. Crinone build up is nasty and prometrium just got all leaky and gooey. I have read that vaginal progesterone gets levels in the uterus higher, whereas the IM shots increase levels in your blood and uterus, but not as high in the uterus where it counts. But as long as my RE says the PIO is good, I would still take that over any suppository. I really hope I can come off the Crinone soon. Scooping that shit out of there every day is just...nast.
    2.5 years TTC with MFI, 3 failed IUIs 
    IVF w/ICSI October 2014: 17R, 13M, 12F 4 Frosties
    ET of two blasts 11/2/14 BFP!!! It's TWINS! EDD 7/21/15

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  • I would much rather use PIO. The shots don't bother me anymore, which I never thought I would say, and DH doesn't mind giving them every night. Crinone grosses me out wicked bad and I find myself paranoid that some will leak out. Also, (TMI alert) crinone can give you different colored chunky discharge that is absolutely disgusting.

    ***Warning: loss and BFP***
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    Diagnosis: PCOS

    TTC since 1/12
    Clomid w/ gyn 12/12- 2/12- BFN
    IUI #1- June 2013- BFN
    IUI #2- July 2013-BFN
    IUI #3- August 2013-BFN

    IVF #1- OCT/ NOV 2013-BFN
              3 Blasts frozen

    FET #1- February 12 2014- BFP!!
                 M/c at 5 weeks 4 days
    FET #2- July 2014- BFN

    IVF #2- Retrieval 11/4/14- 12R 12M 10F 1 blast frozen
    11/9/14 Transferred 1 BB expanding blast- BFP EDD 7/28/15


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  • I have done both and 100% prefer the PIO.  I hate the mess of the endometrin.  I also feel more confident on the PIO that my progesterone is what it should be. 
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    TTC #1 since November 2011
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility, probable endometriosis
    Feb-April 2013: Femara + TI: BFN
    May - September 2013:  Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI#1-4 = BFN
    IVF # 1 November 2013: transferred 1 perfect blast = BFN
    IVF # 2 April 2014: Endo scrape, transferred 2 blasts = BFP!! (first ever!), CP
    FET #1 June 2014: transferred 2 blasts = BFFN
    New Dx: Repeat Implantation Failure
     IVF # 3 November 2014 = BFP!!  Beta #1 9dp5t 272  Beta # 2 11dp5dt 626
    It's Twins! 
    *everyone welcome*
  • My DH has a huge fear of needles! However he doesn't seem to mind being on the other side of them. PIO is no picnic, but in comparison to terrible things I've heard about the suppositories, it's got to be a million times better. At least the uncomfortable pinch and sore muscles only lasts for a short time.
  • I also prefer PIO. At my WTF appointment on Wednesday I asked to be on PIO for every cycle from this point forward. I used Endometrin for an IUI cycle and my fresh IVF cycle. I hated the discharge and I always bled through it. PIO is the only form that I'm confident in as far as it being what my body needs.

    My DW hates needles so I had to do the shots myself. It was not nearly as bad as I had feared.

    Me: 30  DW (aka C): 29

    Together since 2/15/11 ~ Legally married in NY on 9/29/12

    ***CP mentioned***

    We've been working on baby #1 since July 2013 using Open ID donor sperm.  8 IUI attempts with 5 actual IUIs and one chemical pregnancy.  We have one fresh IVF cycle under our belts as well as a FET.  I have endometriosis and a uterine septum that was corrected via surgery in November 2013. 

    11/14/14 -  Second HSG shows that tubes are still clear and ute is looking good. 

    12/6/14 - Started BCPs in prep for IVF #2

    12/22/14 - Saline u/s and endometrial scratch (All was clear and OUCH!)

    1/2/15 - Began stimming for IVF #2

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  • When on the phone with my nurse this morning, I found out I'll be doing both crinone AND PIO so oh joy! Time to start watching the PIO videos :(

    I'm doing both also. I don't know what I prefer, haven't done either yet, ask me next week.


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    Me: AMA, DH: MFI

    Official DX - MFI due to Hemochromatosis

    IVF #1 Nov. 2014 - ER 11/10 (10R 6M 6F) - ET 11/13 

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  • Definitely PIO. Also, my attitude despite disliking it was that there are plenty of studies that say that PIO is more effective. If you're going through all of this misery of IVF anyway, do what's proven more effective unless there's some huge reason you can't. 
    Me: 41, DH 38, Diagnosis DOR
    Started TTC 12/2013
    First Trip to RE: 11/2014
    IVF Round 1: 2/2014 - BFP
    DD Born 11/9/2014
    TTC a Sibling Started 5/2015
    First IVF Round 8/15 - BFN
    Taking a break to go on vacation + enjoy the holidays before FET and/or another IVF round in 2016!

  • My last IVF was with Estradiol tablets (3x daily) and Endometrin (3x and then 2x daily). This cycle I am on Del Estrogen (once every 3 days) and PIO (daily starting Nov 20th).

    After having my first IM injection of DE, I would say that I definitely miss the non invasive days of Estradiol and Endometrin. I must have been one of those few people that had zero irritation issues with both, and did not have awful discharge experiences (I just made cleanout a part of my daily shower routine). 

    However, I took my first DE injection on Friday, and STILL feel the discomfort 3 days later, knowing that I need to take another one tonight. :( I'm not sure how I'm going to handle doing IM injections daily, considering there is such a limit to the location that it can be given. I have already talked to my nurse about the proper locations in the thigh, since I cannot foresee giving myself 2 IM injections at the same time in the upper left/right quadrant of my rear every night. There is just NOT enough space.

    Thinking about it and the constant discomfort I'm already feeling almost makes me want to cry, but since our loss, I will do anything if it means that our bean will stick around for the long haul!
  • PIO. I do my own shots. It's not hard! Just takes a bit of courage the first time especially. You can do it!
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    Me: 32 DH: 35  TTC#1 since March 2012
    Dx: Poor Embryo Quality, Arcuate Uterus, Poor Uterine Blood Flow, Mild Endo, 
           Protein S Deficiency, Sjorgen's Syndrome 

    IUI #1-5: BFN
    Laparoscopy & Hysteroscopy: minimal endo, partial septoplasty
    IVF #1: 10R/6M/6F ~ Day 3 ET = BFN
    IVF #2: 14R/9M/5F ~ transfer canceled ~ all embryos arrested at 1-2 cell stage
    IVF #3: 9R/5M/5F ~ 1 frosty!
    IVF #4 (FET #1): BFN

    IVF #5 (DE IVF #1 with Dr. KK protocol): Currently PREGNANT!!!!!!
    Synthroid + Prednisone + Metformin + Baby Aspirin + Supplements Galore = 15+ pills a day
    Lupron + Lovenox + Delestrogen + IVIG + B/W = 2-5 pokes a day
    19R, 17M, 17F - transferred two Grade A blasts 11/16, four frosties!!!
    Beta #1 11/24 (13dpo/8dp5dt) = 367 ~ Beta #2 11/26 (15dpo/10dp5dt) = 709
    Beta #3 11/29 (18dpo/13dp5dt) = 1,997 ~ Beta #4 12/1 (20dpo/15dp5dt) = 3,403

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  • I'm in the minority because I prefer Crinone.
    TTC since 11/09
    me: 39 DH: 36  
    dx: unexplained (ugh) 

    January 2011 - December 2012: 4 cycles w/Clomid; 9 IUIs w/Follistim & Menopur;  two IVF cycles converted to IUI (poor response/dominant follicle) 

    August 2014 IVF (antagonist protocol: Menopur, Follistim, Ganirelix, dexamethasone): 13 eggs, 9 mature, 8 fertilized w/ICSI; 0 frozen, 3 transferred day 5 = BFN

    October 2014 IVF (micro-lupron protocol: mircrolupron, Menopur, Follistim, dexamethasone): 8 eggs, 4 mature, 3 fertilized w/ICSI; 3 transferred day 3 = BFP! Beta 1=121; Beta 2=287; Beta 3 =678. Miscarriage @ 8w2d. :(
  • I do Endometrin and I'm fine with it. Just stock up on pantyliners. 

    *early loss mentioned*
    Me: 34   dx: endo and DOR
    DH: 38   dx: normal
    Endometrioma removed from left ovary 4/'09 
    Started TTC Aug. 2012 
    BFP Jan. '13 - (no heartbeat at 8w appointment) spontaneously MC at 9w 
    Nov. '13 AMH level 0.98 
    April '14 IUI w/clomid BFN 
    May '14 IUI w/clomid BFN 
    June '14 AMH level 0.5 
    IVF #1 July '14, 4R/4M/3F   2 8 cells transferred on day 3, nothing made it to freeze, BFN 
    IVF #2 Nov '14 EPP stimmed for 12 days 9R/4M/4F   2 7 cells transferred on day 3, nothing to freeze, BFN
    IVF #3 May '15 cancelled after highest possible meds dosages for over two weeks. converted to IUI, BFN
    DE IVF #1 Dec '15 transferred one BB2 blast, BFP due August 2016

    ALL Welcome

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