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Women Networking event caused my rage spiral today

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Ok, I'm prefacing this with I like my company a lot, and I've never had an issue getting promoted. But their Women Networking initiative is just the goddamn worst. 
Some background: I actually bitched about this same initiative in a post this time last year. It was the first ever event, and I complained that our sponsor was a male (wut), he called us "girls" 3 times (grrrrr) and the event was limited to managers and above, so women non-managers could not participate even though one of the key problem areas of concern in our industry is how difficult it is for women to break into management.

So today's fucking shit show...kicks off with the male sponsor passing the torch to a woman sponsor! Nice! I am hopeful that this means they are using common sense going forward.   The new sponsor brags about how many women showed up today, and that this is the third networking event since the launch last year. Notice there are no actual results or accomplishments of this initiative.  Just YAY YOU GUYS KEEP SHOWING UP! So I realize this is just going to be a fluffy circle jerk, as usual. 
Our CEO comes out, and I am initially pleased to see him, as it shows the company really prioritizes this stupid initiative.  But then he speaks about how awesome white men are for realizing that maybe they should hire some minorities and ladies for a change. Like, look how smart and generous white men are for finally bringing on some token lessor folk. I am less than pleased.
The next act is some HR type lady who talks about how to get promoted. Apparently, the answer is "projecting the right image" and "networking". Like, if only you dumb fuck ladies would learn how to act right in a professional setting, maybe then you'd be getting promoted. "Smile in the hallway!" was actual advice she gave to a group of human business women professionals. Fuck you, you would not give that advice to a man.
So at this point I am making my WTF face from the second row and seething. Then they bring out this panel. This fucking panel, man. First panelist is a high ranking man in the company. He wisely wants no part of this clusterfuck and basically just says "women, yay!". Panelist 2 is a woman who, whilst telling her background, explains that she only got her job because of her powerful dad (thanks, again, men!) and credits her "softer touch" for scoring clients (woo, stereotypes).  Panelist #3 is a CPA who runs her own leadership group at her company. She indicated that a great piece of advise she received from her boss when taking on high profile clients was "treat clients like you are dating them!". At this point I am super ragey, as how condescending is that noise?? "Listen, I know your woman brain could not possibly comprehend how to interact with clients in a business setting. So I'll put this in terms you can understand. It's like a date! Women know how to date!"
So then they finallllly open the floor to questions, and I am raring to go because YES I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS CHOICE PANEL.  I know this is a fluffy event, and you're supposed to ask questions like "where can I purchase sensible lady business sweaters?" but goddammit it, that HR lady just advised us to smile in the hallway for the second time, and told us not to wear bikinis in our LinkedIn profile pictures, and I have had it! So I ask, "Since it's been acknowledged that there is a drought of women in senior leadership positions in our industry, doesn't it oversimplify the issue to suggest that this disparity would not exist and we'd be promoted at equal rates as men if we just "projected the right image" as well as our male counterparts?"
::Drops mic::
There was a fucking gasp, hahaha. Male panelist one just waved his hands frantically and said "Yes! It does oversimplify things!! I'm staying the fuck out of this!". Panelist 2 sputtered some shit about women backing out of the industry at the higher levels to go raise babies or whatever. Yes, that is my fucking point! Since the birthin' and raisin' of youngins is a need of society, and this burden disproportionately impacts women and women's careers, can't a group like this focus on actual ways to attract and retain women in the workplace, rather than just congratulate itself for successfully putting women together in a conference room?

Thanks to all who stuck around for my vent. I am looking forward to the promised electronic survey so I can share some constructive feedback.


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Re: Women Networking event caused my rage spiral today

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  • Did you get the sense that others were as outraged as you?



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  • Did you get the sense that others were as outraged as you?
    No, but some people did stop me after to say they liked my question. I am hoping that others were bothered and will share feedback. But I think a lot of women just didn't take it very seriously, or have just accepted some of these things as a normal part of business.


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  • What a load of crap. Your recap was awesome though. So are they just doing this seminar so they (the company I guess) can feel better about promoting women or can say that they are encouraging women in business or something?
    SQUIRREL!!!

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  • Wow. I guess I'll never get another promotion since I can't fake wanting to date my contacts

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  • Did you get the sense that others were as outraged as you?

    No, but some people did stop me after to say they liked my question. I am hoping that others were bothered and will share feedback. But I think a lot of women just didn't take it very seriously, or have just accepted some of these things as a normal part of business.

    That was an awesome question. I have a weird feeling we may work for the same company as something very similar is currently going on in my office.
  • What sort of bullshit is that?

    Freaking SMILE?!


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  • UGH! How painful to have to sit through something so revolting. I don't know if I could have made it through without some sort of Louis Black type meltdown. Here's hoping the women you work with that didn't speak up during Q&A, rage about how disgustingly sexist this program is in the survey they receive.
    I also hope you never have to suffer through bullshit like that again.


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  • I once had my female manager downgrade my review from exceeds to meets, because I looked sad and frustrated too often.  She also said I couldn't expect others to work as hard as me and that I wasn't cut out for my new job when I gave my notice.  So glad to not work for her anymore.
  • WTF. I don't think I would have been able to stay.
  • I would have been shaking with rage...


    ... as I burned that place to the ground. 



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  • Sorry to bump a thread, but I have an update! Just got an email from the organizer saying they found my question "thought provoking" and want to chat with me next week! I am hopeful about this. I would love to get involved in this group and shake shit up.

    Good for you!  (and I'm glad you bumped this because I didn't see it before.)
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