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Day 3 baseline? Opk update

fuzzbumblefuzzbumble member
edited October 2014 in Secondary IF
Does everyone get a day 3 baseline u/s?  My RE I guess decided I don't need one any longer?  He said if I didn't have a cyst last baseline, we could forego them.  But I did have a cyst, just not a functional one??  My RE is fabulous...RE staff kind of sucks balls.  They were kind of rude when I questioned it, too

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June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

Round 2
Since March 2013
BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
ICSI, CCS Freeze all
6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
BFP 3dp5dt!
Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
<3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

Re: Day 3 baseline? Opk update

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    I always have. Things can change from cycle to cycle. I didn't have a cyst last month but have one this month. I would question it too. 
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    Me: 35, DH: 40
    TTC # 2 since 8/13, Dx: unexplained secondary infertility
    Clomid cycles 7/14 & 8/14= BFN
    IUI # 1 (clomid) 8/27/14= BFN
    IUI # 2 (clomid and follistim) 9/25/14= BFN
    IUI # 3 (femara and follistim) 10/23/14= BFN
    IUI # 4 (femara and follistim) 11/20/14= BFN
    12/12/14- saline sono shows two polyps
    2/15- two uterine polyps and "schmutz" (RE's words) removed
    8/15- surprise BFP! Beta #1 70 Beta #2 150 
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    Ditto ^^^ Always did a baseline u/s and b/w with the RE. You never know what will happen. I'm throwing them some major side eye especially since you DID have a cyst and it seems like they're like "Well it wasn't doing anything, so nothing could ever possibly go wrong" that is just dumb logic. I've gotten cysts on just about EVERY Clomid cycle, and didn't grow a functional cysts until the very last one. SO, the moral is, just because you have decorative cysts one cycle, doesn't mean they can't randomly turn into something more on another cycle. 


    Good for you for questioning that shit, and fuck them for being rude. If there's one thing I've learned in my bagillions of years of IF treatment cycles, it's that you absolutely MUST advocate for yourself. If it were me, I would ask to speak to the Dr directly, and let him (her?) you'd feel more comfortable doing a baseline just to err on the side of caution. The alternative is potentially going through half your damn cycle, only to find out you're canceled because of some dumshit that could have been seen during baseline, you know? 


    Good luck. 


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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    Ours always does. Will you still get CD3 bloodwork? My meds were cancelled last cycle on the info from CD3.
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
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    word, potato.  The other fun fact is my dr will be out for my midcycle so I get to see a nurse.  Not super pleased.  

    Maybe their 60-80% success rates with IVF is because they manage IUI patients so poorly, patients that could have succeeded with IUI if they were managed correctly are being corralled into IVF to boost their numbers....I will definitely be having a discussion.  Best in the country my ass.  I'm just pissed.

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    sailorgal said:
    Ours always does. Will you still get CD3 bloodwork? My meds were cancelled last cycle on the info from CD3.
    No, nothing!  I had a cancelled cycle in August because my E2 was 128.  But the two subsequent cycles, despite the cyst, I had normal bloodwork.  I don't know.

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    Maybe their 60-80% success rates with IVF is because they manage IUI patients so poorly, patients that could have succeeded with IUI if they were managed correctly are being corralled into IVF to boost their numbers....

    I've had that thought before too.
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
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    Totally agree with Potato and Jen4ny. There is a damn good reason for those baseline checks.  Insist.  Terrible of them for being rude!
    DS: Born November 2011
    TTC #2 since April '13
    DH 35, Me: 34
    DX: Unexplained Secondary Infertility, Slight DOR
    Sept 14 - IUI (Clomid + Ovidrel) = BFN
    Oct 14 - IUI (Clomid + Ovidrel + Progesterone) = BFN
    Nov 14- Benched due to cysts Looking for New Doc
    Feb - IUI #3 (Letrozole + Ovridrel)
    March/April - IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol - Follistim+HGH+Low Dose HCG - 11R/9M/5F - 2 8 cell 3dtransfer - BFN on April 23, 2014


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    Now it looks like I'm going to surge before im even done with the letrozole. Wtf? I don't get what the hell is wrong with my ovaries. Am I an over responder?

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    Wait a minute...can letrozole cause a pos opk? Omg duh!

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    What CD are you on? I don't think the drug would cause you to surge?


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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    It was almost positive, not quite. Cd 7.

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    I think maybe one or two of my early TI cycles I didn't have a baseline, but all of my IUI cycles I did.  I wouldn't want to start dumping money into a cycle just to have them half-ass monitoring.  I don't ever get CD 3 blood work done, but maybe that is that strange?

    I don't think Femara itself can cause a pos opk, but maybe it is just making you surge early?


    Me: 34 DH: 36 
    DD#1 04/28/11

    TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
    Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
    April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
    Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
    Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
    Beta #1 82, Beta #2 202 Please let this be it.
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    fuzzbumblefuzzbumble member
    edited November 2014
    pdxveg said:

    I wouldn't want to start dumping money into a cycle just to have them half-ass monitoring.



    Exactly. I feel like if they think we can pay for ivf they're pushing us into it a bit.

    If this is too personal I get it, it is the internet, but do you go to Oregon reproductive?

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    Yeah I do.  I was wondering if you went there too. 

    I haven't felt pushed into IVF, but I think I might have said from the beginning that it wasn't an option for us.  And I really stressed that I wanted to keep it as simple as possible for as long as possible.  

    2 of my mid cycle ultrasounds were done by one of the nurse practitioners and I think she did a great job.  I wouldn't worry too much about that.  
    Me: 34 DH: 36 
    DD#1 04/28/11

    TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
    Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
    April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
    Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
    Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
    Beta #1 82, Beta #2 202 Please let this be it.
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    I haven't met her yet. I think she'll do my iui too, Bankowski is out this next week. I cannot say enough good things about him. when I suggested triggering before my follicles got to cyst-size, he was all for it. He listened and didn't brush me off like I was crazy for thinking for myself. The nurses on the phone are another story. :/

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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    Yeah, the nurses on the phone are terrible at times.  I go to the westside office and the nurses/medical assistants that do the blood draws are just as bad.  It seems like in the world of health care it would be a pretty decent place to work so I don't get why they are so crabby all of the time.  
    Me: 34 DH: 36 
    DD#1 04/28/11

    TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
    Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
    April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
    Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
    Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
    Beta #1 82, Beta #2 202 Please let this be it.
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    I go to the lovejoy one, and I love the girl that takes blood. She's awesome! But the front office and nurses, yes, not that great. I think they are slammed busy all the time, that would be very hard.

    I go in today for my midcycle, and want to ask the np if we can test estradiol to see the health of the follicles. So we'll see how that goes. :)

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    June 19, 2010 - Miracle Baby Girl

    Round 2
    Since March 2013
    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
    <3 Twins! Our boy and girl coming end of February!  <3

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