February 2014 Moms

WWYD? Ebola-related **Update**

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edited October 2014 in February 2014 Moms

Update: we pulled the kids and have kept/will keep them home this whole week using PTO, family, and backup care offered by my employer.

I called around like a crazy person Monday searching for a new school, and actually found one that had an immediate opening for an infant and preschooler, by some miracle. They start there Monday; hopefully it turns out to be just as good as the school we're leaving.

The infection of nurse #2 makes me feel a lot less crazy for pulling the kids.

Now the real question: do I go there to get all their stuff, or call it a loss? Someone pass me a Xanax, plz.

 

Long story short, my children attend daycare with the children of numerous healthcare workers from the hospital in Dallas that's been treating the ebola patient(s).

Am I totally over reacting if I pull them out, at least until this all gets under control?  I was cool when it was just Patient Zero.  Now that a healthcare worker has been infected, I keep wondering if the next healthcare worker to be infected might be a mother/father of a child that shares a classroom with my child(ren).  The scientist in me says there's virtually no chance that anything could happen.  The school has released numerous memos since this all started about the precautions they're taking, but it is a daycare, and kids are dirty creatures.  

WWYD? Pull them? Ride it out? My husband and I are trying to figure out how we could flip flop working from home...his job doesn't lend itself to working from home.  Mine does, to a degree. I'm so frustrated by this whole situation.

Ethan Michael - 12/21/09
Norah Jewel - 2/26/14

Re: WWYD? Ebola-related **Update**

  • I don't feel like I have a good answer for you, but I do want to say I'm sorry you're dealing with this! It is scary.

    My husband was an air medial pilot during the swine flu epidemic in 2009, and it was super scary to have him fly a swine flu patient and then come home to me and my newborn.  He would go straight to the shower and put his clothes in the wash before he even said hello to us.

    Some of my thoughts/insight:
    1) The flu is way more contagious and common than Ebola, and can absolutely be fatal.  Think about what your response would be if there were a flu outbreak.  That might help you judge whether you're thinking clearly.
    2) When you say, "healthcare workers," do you know in what capacity?  I wouldn't be worried about L&D nurses, but if you know they're working in the communicable diseases unit, I'd be more concerned.
    3) If your job was really flexible and pulling them out wouldn't be a problem, it's an easier call, but it sounds like it would be problematic.  That means the cost of pulling them out is probably a lot higher than the infinitesimal risk of leaving them in.

    Overall, I probably would not pull them out of day care yet, but I would not judge you if you did!
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  • @Soap1‌, the school won't tell which, if any parents, are directly involved with the Ebola patients. Let's just say that I'm pretty sure there are, but I'm not going to say why for privacy reasons.

    @adinashoshana‌, yes, I'd pull them till there were no more cases among healthcare workers. I would have been fine if other people from the general public (patient Zero's family, those he had contact with prior to diagnosis) had been consequently infected. It's the fact that this was a nurse, wearing PPE, who knew she was being exposed that's bothering me. Either protocols weren't being followed, or they aren't sufficient. Either way, what would keep Ebola from being tracked into school on contaminated shoes, clothing, hands, etc?

    And with that, I think I've made the decision to pull them. I'll just have to figure something out...

    Ethan Michael - 12/21/09
    Norah Jewel - 2/26/14

  • I'm so sorry this is affecting you! Such a hard decision!
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  • @golfergirl08, that's exactly why I feel silly. I know the risk is infinitesimal, but the mom in me is playing the "what if" game.

    Ethan Michael - 12/21/09
    Norah Jewel - 2/26/14

  • I'm sorry this is effecting your family directly, so scary. If it was feasible to work from home until the risk dissipates, I would keep them home.
  • I can see where you're coming from. Knowing rationally that the risk is low, I would still be concerned. For me I would try to decide whether I had a reasonable option for keeping them home and keeping my job. I don't think that my admittedly somewhat irrational fears would be worth other hardships for my family, like financial hardships.
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  • I will say that Ebola is certainly more contagious than HIV, per the linked article above.  A person with HIV spreads it, on average, to 4 people as the graph suggests, but that is over the 20-30 year period that they live with the disease after they contract it. Ebola is spread, on average, to 2 people, but that's just in the few weeks they survive with the disease. 

    But the flu is more common and probably more of a threat to our little ones!
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  • IblissIbliss member
    edited October 2014
    FWIW, Ebola can also spread through contact, not needing to be direct contact. Example, someone sneezes, grabs a hand rail, someone later grabs the same handrail and then eats an apple for lunch. Contamination is much harder to avoid with Ebola. Just my thoughts (slinks back into the shadows).

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  • While I don't think it's an overreaction to want to ensure your kids are safe - especially since kids aren't known for keeping things out of their mouths/etc, I just don't know how realistic it is to pull your kids from DC and work from home for the next 21days+.  If another person becomes ill, that will "reset" the clock again.

    I know I wouldn't get crap done work-wise if my kids were home. And with the long incubation period it could be a long time before there's a sense of "all clear". The good news is, ebola is relatively hard to catch and you're not contagious until you have symptoms so the chance of a DC child's parent getting sick, then passing it along to their LO, and that child passing it on to yours is quite low.

    I get the worry, but it doesn't sound like pulling them out is really a viable long term solution without some other childcare arrangement. Could you afford a nanny or do you have family that could help?


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  • Wow I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. Ebola seemed so far away when it was confined to other countries, then still (for me ) when it was dx here in the states, but hearing this feels like it hits closer to home. I am not a nurse so I don't know the ins and outs of protocol, contaminated things, chain of infection etc... But with that being said I took a moment to put myself in your shoes and my reaction was hands down id keep my LO home. Could you search for a short term sitter/nanny to come in for a month or so? I think id want to wait to see if this goes anywhere else. Could it just be a freak thing and this poor nurse will be the only other? Yes. Could it be a lot worse? Yes. We just don't know. So waiting 3 weeks and figuring out something else for a few weeks would be a small inconvince and I think I'd rather do that than take chances. This is coming from someone who has anticipatory anxiety about a lot of things. I'm a worrier, even before kids, and it's heightened now! Haha my dad
    Just flew home from JFK on a flight with a few passengers who had to get screened and I'm afraid of him coming this weekend. Lol talk about overreacting ;) trust your gut!
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  • I would probably keep my kids home, too even though it may be an over reaction. I'm usually pretty low key about illness but this is a unique situation and new information is constantly updating.
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  • I think because of the area and it is known, more and better precautions are being taken and your kids would likely be fine.

    I'd be more worried about the playgrounds or malls or public places, where extra cleaning and precautions are likely not being taken.

    At the end of the day though, you need to be able to sleep at night (as much as LOs let you of course), and do what you think is best for you and your family.
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