STTN

Kabee4 · October 2014

What do you moms consider sleeping through the night?

I have a real life friend who told me that her little girl was STTN and she is just two day younger. When I asked her to clarify she said she keeps baby awake till 11 and then baby sleeps till 4 am.

My LO goes to sleep around 7 and sleep till 12 or 1. Then he sleeps till about 4 on a good night. He's 9 weeks (I'm at the end of the month). So since I get a 5-6 hour stretch do I consider my baby sleeping through the night? I'm looking for your opinions and experiences.

marsalisails · October 2014

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Heather100612 · October 2014

Any blog I've read considers a 5 hour stretch 'sleeping through the night'.

marsalisails · October 2014

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INmommy871278 · October 2014

DD sleeps 9:30/10pm to 7/7:30am, I didn't consider her sleeping through the night until she was sleeping until 6 or later. Like pp said 5 plus hours is usually considered sleeping through the night, but I think everyone has a personally opinion of when STTN is.

[Deleted User] · October 2014

For me, personally, it's any time before I go to bed until after 6 a.m. lol Mainly I think when he wakes and we don't have to go back to bed. 4 a.m. to me is still a MOTN feeding. 5 a.m. I could probably get myself up for the day but I'd be cranky.

I do think they consider 5-6 hour stretches to be STTN. But obviously I'd think midnight to 5 a.m. is closer to STTN than, like, 9-2.

jnnfrrose6 · October 2014

I consider STTN when LO goes down at least an hour before I go to bed and I don't have to go back to her until 6 (though I will take 5). DD started this around week 7 going down after eating at 8:30 and going until around 6. For about a month up to that she was getting up between 2am-3am to eat. Now she goes down at 7:30 and goes to 6. I will be honest and say this didn't just "happen." We worked on getting on a schedule like this.

Prncesta · October 2014

@jnnfrrose6‌ please do share how you get you're LO to sleep that long. I'm lucky if I can get mine to do 9-4 never mind 7:30-6!

[Deleted User] · October 2014

For us, LO goes to sleep around 10:30-11:30 and sleeps usually until 7-8:30 am. This will shift when I go back to work- more like 9:30-10 until 5 I'd imagine. Hopefully.

earichar23 · October 2014

Like PP said I've read STTN is a 5-6 hour stretch. LO does these but I have a hard time counting 9:30-3:30. So I tend to say she only has one night feeding and is sleeping well.

shamyfowler · October 2014

Like others, I've read that a 5 hour stretch is STTN, but not in my book! If she slept til at least 6, then I would count it.

alyss0nl · October 2014

DS2 sleeps 8-5:30am. He started doing that at about 7-8 weeks. Before then, he would fall asleep at 8 and wake up between 2-3. It's been such a blessing since going back to work in September. I consider STTN when baby sleeps at least 5 hours at night. I don't know if there is a real definition though.

ashleymarie1027 · October 2014

We do bed between 7:30/8:30 and he wakes up around 7am with one MOTN feeding, usually around 3am.

It used to be two MOTN feedings (1am and 4am) ... then I went to bed one night with the monitor volume turned off (on accident) and he woke me up with a more vigorous "ok I'm really hungry now" cry that I heard from down the hall around 4am. Since then it's been only one MOTN wake up. Happy accident? He was about 7-8 weeks old, so he was probably ready for longer sleep anyway.

For the OP question, I would not consider 5-6 hours STTN.. I'd be looking for something more like 8-9 hours in one stretch.

lamarei · October 2014

I'm not aware of anyone (big or small) that actually STTN. Humans wake up for lots of different reasons. Thirsty, hungry, bathroom, too hot/cold, repositioning...
Why is this a goal? Happy, healthy, rested is what we are aiming for I guess.

VTKatie · October 2014

I definitely don't consider that STTN. I put my LO down at 9 and she wakes up at 2:30. That's 5.5 hours and clearly not "through the night". 8-9 hours is when I will consider her STTN.

TwizzyG · October 2014

No way is 5 hours STTN. I considered my LO STTN when she did 8:30-4:30. Now she does 8:30-7, but with a wake up at 5 cause she wants her paci back in.

ETA: we use the moms on call schedule.

Kabee4 · October 2014

I appreciate all of the responses and personal experiences. I had heard that 5-6 hours was sleepin through the night too.

@cko521‌ I'm not too worried about technically if he is sleeping through the night. My goal is a happy healthy baby tok. But I find that most often when people ask me about LO, they ask how old he is and then is he sleeping through the night. I get many eye rolls/judgement sighs when I say he isn't sleeping through the night.

Anyways I guess I have a lot of curiosity about it too.

argonne · October 2014

Well...DD was "STTN" according to the whole 5-6 rule. She'd go down around 8 in her crib and I wouldn't hear from her until 1-3 in the morning. Now, it seems like I only get a stretch from 8-11 or12 and up every hour from then on. Is this a growth spurt? She eats a ton at these wakings. DS was always a shit sleeper and I co-slept with him the whole night., so I don't really have anything to go by.

argonne · October 2014

Summerlovin314 said:

How do you get your LOs to go to bed so early!? We have tired earlier, but out LO will go to sleep anytime between 930 and 11 pm. She typically only wakes up once per night, but I can't even imagine her going down for the night at 730 or 830.

DD has always shown her tired signs around 7-7:30, so we just went with it and it worked. I read Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, by Dr. Weissbluth and he basically said that babies, especially 4 months or older, should be in bed between 6-7 every night and it will make the total nighttime sleep better. For babies that go to bed later, he suggests moving bed time forward incrementally by 15 minutes every few days.

Kabee4 · October 2014

Exactly what @argonne‌ said. I read the same book. Our goal is to start his bed time routine at 7 but if he shows signs earlier we start then.

ADC1979 · October 2014

Summerlovin314 said:

How do you get your LOs to go to bed so early!? We have tired earlier, but out LO will go to sleep anytime between 930 and 11 pm. She typically only wakes up once per night, but I can't even imagine her going down for the night at 730 or 830.

I'm with you on this. LO was in bed by 11pm last night, and that's typical. Everything I've read says that a 6 or 7pm bedtime is best, but I can't make that work in my house. (For starters, there's nights like tonight when I don't get off work till 8 PM.) DH doesn't get home till 7pm most nights (except when I get off at 8) so between the two of us, we'd never get to spend waking time with Elias if we did that.

So here we are, going to bed late but I think we're kinda making it work for us. He'll nap in the evenings before bed, but he still interacts with us and he's not in bed so I don't count it as bedtime. (But maybe it is if he's napping...I don't know...just know this is the new normal for us!)

And calling a 5 hour stretch STTN is poppycock.

Dracula agrees. Even bloodsuckers want babies to sleep normal human hours before calling it STTN.

BBColt78 · October 2014

Sleep posts!! I ready every sleep book with DD #1. She was a great sleeper and no exaggeration... At 7 weeks she was sleeping 12 hours a night. I swore I "made" that happen.

DD#2 has a mind of her own. Same sleep books, same everything. No 12 hours here. We got 8pm to 5a for a long time. Now she's 7pm to anywhere from 3:30-6am. My husband and I think she's broken as our first was a miracle sleeper lol

argonne · October 2014

BBColt78 said:

Sleep posts!! I ready every sleep book with DD #1. She was a great sleeper and no exaggeration... At 7 weeks she was sleeping 12 hours a night. I swore I "made" that happen. DD#2 has a mind of her own. Same sleep books, same everything. No 12 hours here. We got 8pm to 5a for a long time. Now she's 7pm to anywhere from 3:30-6am. My husband and I think she's broken as our first was a miracle sleeper lol

Dude, I would kill for that right now. I would do a naked happy dance if DD slept until 1. I would feel like I hit the lottery if she slept until 3:30.

MrsLele · October 2014

DD is a miracle sleeper. 10pm - to anywhere between 6-8am. Sometimes I do an early morning "dream feed" just so I don't have to pump. She is pretty wide awake and pleasant before 9, which is when we start her bedtime routine. This also works so we can get DD #1 to bed at 8. I imagine eventually we will put them to bed at the same time.

ashleymarie1027 · October 2014

cko521 said:
@Kabee4‌ that drives me insane when people ask that. Why do people care? But that's always the first question.

Seriously! I'm sure I did this to new parents before because I just didn't how f*ing frustrating it is to here this question. I want be like "my kid does more interesting things than sleep, why don't you ask about that!?"

But if they're not parents I let it roll off, cause they don't know. When it's older moms (ladies at work) it really bugs me... I just sigh, roll my eyes, fill up my coffee mug and go back to my desk.

KatWAG · October 2014

My LO is 13 weeks old. And he does STTN. He goes down at 10 or 10:15 and will wake up between 7:15 and 7:45. (I am knocking or wood while I type this, he has been doing it for over a week now.)

Maybe this is the wrong way to look at it, but I dont consider 5-6 hours STTN, bc I am still getting up at night to feed him.

My ped said if you could sneak a couples extra ounces in during the day it would help LO sleep longer at night. It worked like a charm for us.

littlemissmarla · October 2014

DD has her last feed between 8-9pm and is asleep by 9:30, the past 3 nights shes been sleeping until 5am, which I def consider STTN. I get up once or twice to pop the paci back in but other than that she's out. We just followed her lead and this kind of just appeared.

Morgieloo · October 2014

I consider 6-8 hours STTN. DD is 11 weeks and sleeps 9-7. Once she was sleeping until 6am with no MOTN feedings for a week is when I felt lik she was STTN.

Morgieloo · October 2014

cko521 said:
@Kabee4‌ that drives me insane when people ask that. Why do people care? But that's always the first question.

I completely agree. I feel like you are judged as a parent based on how long your kid sleeps. Some kids sleep and some don't.. Simple as that.

honeybee434 · October 2014

Just seeing STTN right now makes me want to punch someone. I really am starting to think DD started the 4 month sleep regression at 3 months. I don't think there is any way that her sleeping could get worse. She definitely just takes about 4-6 "naps" from about 9:30pm until 8am. I'm jealous of all of your good sleepers! I guess I could try putting her to sleep earlier, but then I would literally get home and put her straight to bed, which I don't think I can handle not getting any time with her. And DH sleeps until 9ish at least, so I need her to sleep in a little later.

nolemomma14 · October 2014

honeybee434 said:
Just seeing STTN right now makes me want to punch someone. I really am starting to think DD started the 4 month sleep regression at 3 months. I don't think there is any way that her sleeping could get worse. She definitely just takes about 4-6 "naps" from about 9:30pm until 8am. I'm jealous of all of your good sleepers! I guess I could try putting her to sleep earlier, but then I would literally get home and put her straight to bed, which I don't think I can handle not getting any time with her. And DH sleeps until 9ish at least, so I need her to sleep in a little later.

This exactly! DS will be three months on the 14th and his sleep has gone from great to terrible in a week and a half. He had been sleeping from 8:30 until 2 or 3 and then back down until 6. I could fully function on that schedule. Last night he went down at 8:30 and was up at 11, 12, 2, and 4:30. He only wanted to eat at 12 and 4:30 though. He refuses to eat at the other times, and we are able to rock him back to sleep. We've tried putting him down earlier, and for us it just added a wake up at 9:30 lol. I'm really praying it's just the 12 week wonder week/ growth spurt and it will pass soon. If I get asked one more time if he's STTN or someone tells me to add rice cereal to his bottles I will lose it!!!!

honeybee434 · October 2014

@tundrabunny‌ She is with either DH or my SIL during the day. She hadn't wanted to drink that much out of her bottles lately, so I think part of it is she tried to catch up on her eating when I'm home because she gets to nurse. We tried some new bottles today so I'm hoping to find one where she drinks more ounces while I'm at work. That and I ordered the sleep suit because she breaks out of her swaddle a lot at night.

littlemissmarla · October 2014

cko521 said:

Damn it. I think I jinxed myself saying DD sleeps 10-4,5, or 6. Now she keeps waking up every 3 hours starting at 1 or 2.

Me too. We had an earlier than usual wake up this morning, grrrr.

nolemomma14 · October 2014

@tundrabunny‌ DS is home with me during the day. He naps about 4x a day and I usually don't let him nap more than 2 hrs unless he seems like he really needs it. The other day we kept him up after waking up from a nap at 6pm and by 8pm he was so overtired. He still woke up the same. We've tried putting him down earlier and later. I cut caffeine out to see if that would help. I'm thinking at this point we just have to wait it out until he gets back on a better schedule.

Lindsay2907 · October 2014

jnnfrrose6 said:
I consider STTN when LO goes down at least an hour before I go to bed and I don't have to go back to her until 6 (though I will take 5). DD started this around week 7 going down after eating at 8:30 and going until around 6. For about a month up to that she was getting up between 2am-3am to eat. Now she goes down at 7:30 and goes to 6. I will be honest and say this didn't just "happen." We worked on getting on a schedule like this.

Pretty much what she said.

DD sleeps 8:30-7am.

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