Cows milk

Cassi215 · September 2014

Hey ladies so I have a friend who states that her child "will never have cows milk" but feeds her kid cheese all the time (and it's not specialty cheese) isn't cheese made with the same or similar milk? Am I missing something?

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Some people seem to have a been in their bonnet about milk. Whatever I love milk.

kmos816 · September 2014

It has something to do with how cheese is processed I can't think right now though so can't fully explain.... I did stop drinking milk and my skin improved; I used to have lots of breakouts now I don't. I still eat cheese from time to time.

MamaFantastic · September 2014

Foods like cheese and yogurt are made by using bacterial cultures. Some people who have a sensitivity to a glass of milk will be able to handle cultured milk products just fine.

stgeist · September 2014

@Cassi215 You have a PM

KatieGummow · September 2014

I don't think I will do cow juice either, maybe almond milk. But I haven't researched it. And I will most likely follow the pedi'a recommendation. Anyone do almond instead of cow?

kmos816 · September 2014

KatieGummow said:
I don't think I will do cow juice either, maybe almond milk. But I haven't researched it. And I will most likely follow the pedi'a recommendation. Anyone do almond instead of cow?

@KatieGummow‌ my sister does almond milk for her almost 2 year old and she is doing great! We will also do almond milk.

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

I find whole milk is losing ground to 2% milk even for really young kids. Which alarms me. I'm never giving up whole milk ever ever.

It is true that milk products are lower in lactose than straight milk.

Ashleypixie · September 2014

I don't know what we'll do. My family loves milk but I'm really disturbed by the stuff. It's not made for humans and dairy cows are often treated in a way that I don't find morally acceptable. Same with eggs. But I hate being that annoying person who people roll their eyes at and I eat the hell out of cheese, so I can't really talk. I'm leaning more towards almond milk but I'll study up and talk to my ped about it when the time comes.

Cecilbear · September 2014

LalaMama81 said:
The big thing w/ cow's milk is that if you wean from BM or F at 1 is that they still need that fat. They won't get that from some milk substitutes but you can make it up by other foods.

I doubt many pedi's in the US will advise anything but WCM initially - they might help you find another way to get the fat, etc. but their stand rec will be WCM.

It's very interesting - we aren't anti milk, my kids drink it but I never pushed it. We use it in cereal, w/ cookies, etc. But I think it's bizarre how WCM-centric our culture is for one year olds. People think it's weird to nurse or give breast milk past X age, but hey! Give the kid milk from another lactating animal instead!

Yes! My thoughts exactly. I don't consume dairy by choice, but my husband does and if it's the healthiest option for LO, then she will too. Though I'd prefer finding plant-based alternatives. Just always strikes me as odd to drink something intended for a calf.

KatieGummow · September 2014

Thanks for the knowledge, my smart mommas!

KatieGummow · September 2014

Didn't even think of that @poru! That's interesting that D is such a milk monster when you're not encouraging it! Maybe the sugars in it? At least it's not candy.

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

There's always goat, sheep or camel milk. These are all more similar to human milk than cow.

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

No. They're not. Urban legend.

Jessimax · September 2014

We do a mix, for me nothing can replace a glass of milk but for smoothies we do almond but mostly we just drink water. Hoping to keep LO on breast milk till about 2 then full fay milk

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Sorry that was abrupt. https://kellymom.com/nutrition/milk/milk-supplements/ "Using goat’s milk before 6 months or regular use between 6 and 12 months is not recommended. Goat’s milk is no more appropriate to give baby than cow’s milk. If you need to supplement and breastmilk is not available, formulas are a more nutritionally complete product. There are several comparisons of goat vs. cow vs. human milk in the links below. Using this information, goat milk is much closer in composition to cow milk than human milk. Goat’s milk is high in sodium (like cow’s milk) and is very high in chloride and potassium, which makes the renal solute load too high for babies. This can cause gastrointestinal bleeding and can result in anemia and poor growth (these problems are usually undetected until months later). Goat milk is also deficient in folic acid, which can lead to megaloblastic anemia. Also, infants who are allergic to cow’s milk protein are often allergic to goat’s milk too."

Ashleypixie · September 2014

Damn, you popped that article up in less than three minutes...

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

@Rrrrrachel‌ that's interesting, I stand corrected

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Yeah I've seen the goat milk thing so many times I know exactly where to find that one. Very common claim in the crunchy mom community.

RedDawnsRevenge · September 2014

Rrrrrachel said:
Yeah I've seen the goat milk thing so many times I know exactly where to find that one. Very common claim in the crunchy mom community.

Actually I got the camel thing from dirty jobs when mike Rowe went to the camel ranch. I don't know any other crunchies but y'all

thejewelster · September 2014

We will likely be almond too. Lo has cmpa and I've switched to almond as has my hubby. Seems weird to drink cow's milk now! But I love cheese... I cannot wait to eat a brick of Brie!!!

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

I always drink organic dairy. is one of my top organic priorities.

lokimau · September 2014

I only use cow milk in baking, only organic though. I don't like the texture when substituting other products. For drinking & cereal, we use almond milk. I like soy but DH hated the texture. I love me some cheese though. At least my favs are fresh mozzarella, goat cheese, & Brie.

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Milk in an opaque carton will last longer than milk in a light permeable one. I always assumed that was the difference.

Teresa1896 · September 2014

Our stores are labeling their non-organic milk as rgbh-free. Good enough for me.
Fwiw, I have our milk delivered by a local dairy for dd and some day DS. I think it tastes better but mainly I like the convenience.
For myself, I buy unsweetened almond/coconut milk for cereal, coffee drinks, and oatmeal, but I don't drink it plain. My main reason for using it is that it has fewer calories and way more calcium than even skim milk.

MamaFantastic · September 2014

Almond milk is not going to have the same amount of protein, nor the same amount of fat or calories, as whole cow's milk. I get that it's trendy to drink almond milk now. 10-15 years ago, it was soymilk. The important thing to remember when substituting cows milk for another product in your child's diet is that you need to replicate the macro- and micronutrient profile (specifically: fat, protein, calcium) in whatever other foods you offer. If you're offering whole milk yogurt instead, great. If you're still breastfeeding, great. It's easy to stir a little calcium citrate into almond milk, but at 25-40 cal/8oz it's not nearly as nutritive to a 15 month old as whole cow's milk.

Science corner: proper amounts and types of fatty acids are ESSENTIAL for little growing brains... literally. They help form the myelin sheath that conducts nerve signals down the axon of a brain cell... quite simply building and sustaining your child's mind.

Bottom line: it's not milk itself that's important for young kids 12m and up... it's what's IN milk. Compensating adequately via other foods is fine... just be smart and intentional about it.

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Also as long as you're bf 2-3 times a day they don't NEED any supplementary milk.

J&NL · September 2014

DD drinks milk all the time. I just make sure to buy organic so she doesn't get all the extra hormones.

BuggasMom · September 2014

I buy a gallon of cow milk and 2 quarts of almond milk weekly we plow through it all like it's going out of style. Milk is delicious. I don't get what all the hype is. I drank regular old cow milk growing up I turned out awesome.

LaNorte · September 2014

This whole thread is fascinating to me... DH and I go through 2 gallons of milk a week, and we are in farmville Wisconsin, so the idea that other people don't drink obscene amounts of milk is just completely foreign to me.

MamaFantastic · September 2014

2 gallons a week is just over 2 cups per day per person. I wouldn't call that obscene.

Our whole family (2+1) goes through half a gallon in 5-7 days. I only use milk on cereal and in recipes. Kiddo has never been a big milk drinker either.

But we eat a crapton of yogurt! Shoutout to @Stonyfield!

Cassi215 · September 2014

Thanks ladies for the info. I guess it kinda annoys me that she says that and then he eats cheese and other dairy. But it's the same as telling people "my baby only eats organic" and then I see him eating mcdonalds.

ashcole28 · September 2014

DS loves milk he drinks about 5 cups of it a day. I don't see the big hype.

Rrrrrachel · September 2014

Fage is the way to go for yogurt.

chichi589 · September 2014

I grew up on a glass of milk with dinner my kids will do the same. If we didn't want milk we could have water. I think it's healthy and good for them. And milk is better then juice IMO.

edoliesmom · September 2014

Milk by itself is gross.

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