May 2014 Moms

Does this count as CIO?

At night, DS goes in his crib awake and falls asleep on his own with no issue. During the day is another story. He fights sleep like no other. If I don't get him to sleep the second he gets tired, he gets very fussy. Holding him doesn't help the fussiness. Basically he just grunts and fusses until he finally falls asleep. Not a full on cry. If he is in his swing he will grunt and moan for about 5-10 min then he is out. If I try to hold and soothe him, it takes longer. I do not want to have him cry it out and I'm not sure if this counts.

Re: Does this count as CIO?

  • From what you describe, I say it doesn't count. DD does the same thing. At this point, we know the difference in each of our own LO's crying vs fussing.
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  • Not CIO. It sounds like your LO just needs to release some tension in order to fall asleep.
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  • We do the same thing. If it goes on for more than 10 min or escalates, we get him.
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  • Fussing isn't CIO.

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  • D'S is the same. He will fuss held or not. How he is before he falls asleep. Not CO.
  • If we said yes would it matter?

    Do what works for you and your LO.
    Fwiw, no I don't think that is CIO.


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  • Ageee with @mrsbtobe20122‌ . Does it matter? What is best for you and your LO?

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  • Yes I think it does matter. If it was CIO, even though nothing helps, at least if I was holding him, he would know I was with him. If he is in the swing, he would think I'm ignoring him. I think I read somewhere with colicky babies, even though you can't stop the crying, the fact that you are there teaches them to trust you.
  • Sorry, didn't mean to be snarky. I just meant do what you think is best for you guys. If you think you should hold him, go for it. Likely, if you think he needs to burn some tension by fussing a bit, go for it.
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  • Someone posted this blog post the other day. Describes your LO exactly.
    https://askmoxie.org/blog/2006/06/babies_and_cio.html
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  • ns1 said:

    Sorry, didn't mean to be snarky. I just meant do what you think is best for you guys. If you think you should hold him, go for it. Likely, if you think he needs to burn some tension by fussing a bit, go for it.

    This. I meant... Internet strangers shouldn't define if it is or isn't CIO for you. You know your baby's cries of need vs fussing. Do what works for your family.


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  • @lica001‌ thank you for posting that article. My LO cries Every. Time. She goes to sleep. Naps, bedtime, it's all the same. It varies from a few short bursts of fussing to 20 minutes of crying off and on until she finally settles to sleep. If I try to hold and rock her it just escalates to full blown purple face crying, so I put her down and only get her if the crying gets worse. It's been making me feel like a bad mom who can't soothe my own baby, but this article makes me feel a little better.

    OP, I agree that we gotta do whatever works.
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  • I'm happy to see this post because I have been wondering the same thing. DS used to need to be rocked/bounced to sleep but now it just keeps him awake ... I put him in his crib and he'll either not fuss at all or fuss for 10 mins then put himself to sleep. I know the difference between crying and fussing for him but I still feel neglectful leaving him in there to fuss... Even though it's how he falls asleep. Sounds silly now that I typed it out.

    Long story short... I get how you're feeling! And glad others agree it's not CIO =)
  • @ns1‌ no snark detected. I just wanted to explain why I thought it was important because you are right, you have to do what works. I just didn't want him thinking I was ignoring him

    @lica001‌ that sounds exactly like my son. Good to know. Thanks
  • Whatever your comfortable with momma! My son sometimes freaks while he's sleeping just grunts and cries out moving lots when he first falls asleep as I'm holding him...he's just getting out steam so he can go to sleep.

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