Trouble TTC

Just got back from new RE and I'm depressed...2 new observations...IVF in future but DH unsure

Well I just got back from a consult with a new RE in my area. I'm CD10 so I was expecting to see a dominant follicle. Well turns out the second his assistant (woman doctor in her residency) shoved the wand up my vagina he made a note of a very small fibroid and a small section of possible adenomyosis. I have NEVER in my life heard of adenomyosis, but apparently it cannot be accurately diagnosed without pathology and there is no hard evidence that it effects fertility so pretty much I just hope if I do have it,  it doesn't get any worse. I also have NEVER had my old RE mention any fibroid issues. So pretty much I'm going to spend the whole day Dr. Googling adenomyosis and fibroids. So after these discoveries he goes on to say he sees two collapsed follicles, but doesn't know if I just ovulated or if these collapsed follicles were from my last cycle. I'm hoping to the SUN that I just ovulated because DH and I had sex last night and Sunday night, with the assumption I would ovulate CD12, which would be Thursday. So it is very possible this natural cycle is a bust already. 

The new RE mentioned he wanted to get my AMH tested. Apparently it is a better test for ovarian reserve than the FSH and he suspects since my periods last on average 24-26 days I might have a low ovarian reserve! My FSH came back at 6 last October so I thought my egg quantity was in good shape, but maybe not. So with the observation of a fibroid, possible adenomyosis and no dominant follicle for this cycle and the "well since you have a shorter cycle at your age of 33 you may have a low ovarian reserve" I might as well start drinking and crying into a pillow now. 

But I can't start drinking right now because it gets better. He explained that "unexplained" fertility usually means either the sperm can't penetrate the egg because the sperm runs out of energy or the egg has a tough outer shell and the sperm can't muscle through so if 3-6 cycles go by with no luck we will have to move on to IVF. That is fine, DH and I already talked about moving to IVF if I am not pregnant by July 2015, except when I called him and told him all this he was very hesitant to put $25,000 (estimate of course) towards having a kid if success wasn't guaranteed. I then screamed that being childless was not an option for me, so if it came to it we would have to pay for IVF or pay for adoption, both of which are expensive. So I'm SUPER pissed at him right now. He is a positive thinker and doesn't think I'm thinking positively enough about getting pregnant and that I'm jumping a head to the worst case scenario....HELLO I suffer from fucking SEVERE ANXIETY I like to assume the worse case scenario and make a plan of action. Planning for the worse soothes my anxiety. 

AHHHHHH I'm so upset, annoyed and wished it was later in the day so I could start drinking :(

Me: 33, DH: 32

TTC: 2 years
Fertility blood tests all normal
Tilted uterus
3 day ultrasound 17 follicles
HSG: 11/13/13- tubes open
DH SA: SUPER sperm (145 million, 84% motility, 22% morphology)
All infection disease and immunity blood tests NORMAL

FIRST IUI May 2014: 100 mg Clomid days 5-9, third ultrasound CD 13 revealed four follicles 27, 24 and 20 and 13mm. Trigger shot May 28 with IUI May 29 and 30 (fingers crossed) - BFN started spotting 11DPO :(

IUI #2 B2B 6/23 and 6/24, three mature eggs and 130 million sperm! FX this is the month!  BFN 7/8

3rd cycle benched due to cysts - TI with OPK tests -  BFN

3rd mediated cycle: Clomid+Trigger+TI  (three follies left side, one on right as usual....what the hell right ovary get it together and produce some damn follicles!) 7DPO progesterone level 43 with NO suppositories YAY for a natural strong ovulation. Beta canceled started spotting 13DPO - Third time is not a CHARM! 14 day cycle WTF! Everything looks normal - RE wants to start injectables next cycle so this cycle I'm benched

Officially benched until March....but still plan on trying the baking soda douche due to my excessive and thick CM

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Re: Just got back from new RE and I'm depressed...2 new observations...IVF in future but DH unsure

  • Ugh sorry you're having a bad day. My RE tested for both FSH and AMH. I have to double check but I'm pretty sure they tested both. Did you say your periods last 24-26 days? Or did you mean to say your cycle? Who says it's too early to start drinking :)


    TTC #1

    Me: AMA, DH: MFI

    Official DX - MFI due to Hemochromatosis

    IVF #1 Nov. 2014 - ER 11/10 (10R 6M 6F) - ET 11/13 

    3DT of 3 embies - no frosties - CP = BFFN!!!!

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  • Tiko99 said:
    He is a positive thinker and doesn't think I'm thinking positively enough about getting pregnant and that I'm jumping a head to the worst case scenario....HELLO I suffer from fucking SEVERE ANXIETY I like to assume the worse case scenario and make a plan of action. Planning for the worse soothes my anxiety. 
    This is DH and me, exactly. OMG, it drives me BSC. I'm sorry :(
    Big hugs and lots of alcohol for you.
    Love 2010 | Marriage 2011 | TTC #1 since 2012
    PCOS | Anovulatory | Metformin + Letrozole
  • Hollowvic said:
    Ugh sorry you're having a bad day. My RE tested for both FSH and AMH. I have to double check but I'm pretty sure they tested both. Did you say your periods last 24-26 days? Or did you mean to say your cycle? Who says it's too early to start drinking :)
    My cycle usually last 24-26 days. I think I would die if my period was that long lol. TYPO BRAIN!

    Me: 33, DH: 32

    TTC: 2 years
    Fertility blood tests all normal
    Tilted uterus
    3 day ultrasound 17 follicles
    HSG: 11/13/13- tubes open
    DH SA: SUPER sperm (145 million, 84% motility, 22% morphology)
    All infection disease and immunity blood tests NORMAL

    FIRST IUI May 2014: 100 mg Clomid days 5-9, third ultrasound CD 13 revealed four follicles 27, 24 and 20 and 13mm. Trigger shot May 28 with IUI May 29 and 30 (fingers crossed) - BFN started spotting 11DPO :(

    IUI #2 B2B 6/23 and 6/24, three mature eggs and 130 million sperm! FX this is the month!  BFN 7/8

    3rd cycle benched due to cysts - TI with OPK tests -  BFN

    3rd mediated cycle: Clomid+Trigger+TI  (three follies left side, one on right as usual....what the hell right ovary get it together and produce some damn follicles!) 7DPO progesterone level 43 with NO suppositories YAY for a natural strong ovulation. Beta canceled started spotting 13DPO - Third time is not a CHARM! 14 day cycle WTF! Everything looks normal - RE wants to start injectables next cycle so this cycle I'm benched

    Officially benched until March....but still plan on trying the baking soda douche due to my excessive and thick CM

    JANUARY SIGGY CHALLENGE...This is so me!

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    Love this man....he was so before his time in his thoughts and ideas about the world....been obsessed about him lately bringing it back to the early 90s.

    image

    Never thought I would like long hair....

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  • ick. Sorry. That's tough stuff on all sides.

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    ***** Siggy Warning *****

    TTC since Dec, 2012. Me: 33; DH: 34

    - Ultrasound to look at "lay of the land": normal
    - Blood work: normal
    - OPKs and ultrasound to confirm ovulation: Yes
    - SA for DH: Normal (a couple numbers on the low side of normal)
    - HSG: Normal
    - Doing several cycles of Letrozole, TI and progesterone
        - Aug cycle of Letrozole, TI and progesterone came back with a BFP-MC at 7 weeks.
    - Benched until Jan
    - Starting Letrozole, TI, Progesteron and HCG Trigger in Feb cycle

     

  • I'm so sorry, that's too much stressful/uncertain news for one day! :(

    I hope the fibroid and the adeno....thing turn out to have no impact on anything. 

    And if your cycles are 23-26 days, it makes sense that you may have Oed before CD10. It's not unheard of at all. I never heard that it was related to lower ovarian reserve, but I guess that makes sense if there aren't as many follicles producing estrogen and dampening the follicle stimulating hormone. Hopefully it's not an issue and you had a nice healthy ovulation!

    MH was the same way when we first got our official diagnosis. He went so far as to blame my "negative" (read - not idiotically optimistic) attitude for harming our fertility. It didn't take long for him to start to respect my feelings as simply different from his, though. I was surprised, but he told me he still believe 100% that we will get KU every cycle we try, but he doesn't mind if I give up totally and we just wait for AF/beta together. :)

    And thanks for that explanation of unexplained fertility - it's a nice clear picture of the tired sperm or walled-off egg and I think it will come in handy if I need to convince DH to move on to IVF. :D
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
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  • Sorry for the unpleasant news. Hope it ends soon. Did they mention an action plan and how long until you're back on track?
    Me: 26 (IC/PCOS-2000mg of Metformin daily)

    June 2014- HSG=clear

    DH: 27 (SA results were great minus the slightly low morphology)
    Started dating DH in 2002 at 14 years old
    Married on 03.01.2014
    Officially TTC since April 2014 
    January 2013- Surprise BFP, m/c at 6 weeks, D&C 2 Weeks later
    April 2014- First RE appointment
    July 2014- IUI#1-Canx due to scar tissue and polyps. TI with the help of Ovidrel. BFN

    August 2014- Hysteroscopy to remove scar tissue and polyp

    September 2014- IUI #1.1-100mg Clomid, Ovideral, 11.5 million swimmers=BFP

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  • Sorry for the unpleasant news. Hope it ends soon. Did they mention an action plan and how long until you're back on track?
    The new RE wants to view my records from my old RE and do the AMH to review my ovarian reserve. Next cycle he wants to use letrozole instead of clomid. He stated there is a higher pregnancy rate using letrozole, though I haven't read this in any research, but I'm down for trying a new drug that won't make me emotional with bleeding gums. He was OK with TI and not an IUI. At this point my DH is leaving the house at 4:30 AM for his lovely 2 hour commute to Los Angeles every morning so logistical there is just no way to get a sample from him in time for an IUI. So he wants to do 3-6 cycles and if no luck he wants to explore IVF which is music to my DH's ears (sarcasm). 

    The RE had nothing to say about the fibroid since it was no where near anything so that is good, I just have to educate myself on fibroids because I know nothing about them. Yay for a night of Dr. Googling all my issues!

    Me: 33, DH: 32

    TTC: 2 years
    Fertility blood tests all normal
    Tilted uterus
    3 day ultrasound 17 follicles
    HSG: 11/13/13- tubes open
    DH SA: SUPER sperm (145 million, 84% motility, 22% morphology)
    All infection disease and immunity blood tests NORMAL

    FIRST IUI May 2014: 100 mg Clomid days 5-9, third ultrasound CD 13 revealed four follicles 27, 24 and 20 and 13mm. Trigger shot May 28 with IUI May 29 and 30 (fingers crossed) - BFN started spotting 11DPO :(

    IUI #2 B2B 6/23 and 6/24, three mature eggs and 130 million sperm! FX this is the month!  BFN 7/8

    3rd cycle benched due to cysts - TI with OPK tests -  BFN

    3rd mediated cycle: Clomid+Trigger+TI  (three follies left side, one on right as usual....what the hell right ovary get it together and produce some damn follicles!) 7DPO progesterone level 43 with NO suppositories YAY for a natural strong ovulation. Beta canceled started spotting 13DPO - Third time is not a CHARM! 14 day cycle WTF! Everything looks normal - RE wants to start injectables next cycle so this cycle I'm benched

    Officially benched until March....but still plan on trying the baking soda douche due to my excessive and thick CM

    JANUARY SIGGY CHALLENGE...This is so me!

    image


    Love this man....he was so before his time in his thoughts and ideas about the world....been obsessed about him lately bringing it back to the early 90s.

    image

    Never thought I would like long hair....

    image

  • @Tiko99‌ I figured that's what you meant but just wanted to be sure, I would die if my periods lasted that long also!


    TTC #1

    Me: AMA, DH: MFI

    Official DX - MFI due to Hemochromatosis

    IVF #1 Nov. 2014 - ER 11/10 (10R 6M 6F) - ET 11/13 

    3DT of 3 embies - no frosties - CP = BFFN!!!!

    ****All Welcome****

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  • So sorry! It's NEVER to early to have a drink, or two, or three. I'm the same way...I always analyze everything and think the worst. My DH sounds like yours. Can be a huge pain in the ***. Ugh. Hugs!!

    ***SIGGY WARNING***

    Me (26) & DH (26)
    Dog Momma to 2 amazing furbabies
    Started dating: May 6, 2005 & Married: August 4, 2012
    Diagnosis: PCOS


    September 2013 - January 2014: Not trying but not preventing
    February 2014:
    Officially TTC (BBT, OPKs, etc)
    February-August 2014: Irregular Cycles, U/S showed Fibroids/Cysts, Provera required to get AF, BFNs
    September & October 2014: Testing Months with Reproductive Endocrinologist!
    DH's SA: Normal (116.4 million sperm, 97% motility, 36% morphology) - WHO criteria
    DH's Repeat SA: Poss. Low Morph. (138 million sperm, 73% motility, 8% morphology) - Kruger criteria
    HSG and SIS: Normal (tubes clear)

    Medicated Cycle:
     5mg Letrozole + Trigger Injection + TI = BFP!!

    ESTIMATED DUE DATE: AUGUST 13, 2015

    Beta #1: 12/8 - 1,040 Beta #2: 12/10 - 2,902 Beta #3: 12/16 - 19,321
    Ultrasound #1: 12/12 (5 weeks 1 day) - Gestational sac and yolk sac present
    Ultrasound #2: 12/18 (6 weeks 0 days) - Measuring good, heart rate 99
    Ultrasound #3: 12/26 (7 weeks 1 day) - Measuring good, heart rate 150




  • Sorry for the tough day! Before venturing into IVF, have you looked into any shared risk programs with a money back guarantee? The money aspect is super scary! A failed IVF may disqualify you, so if you think you might be interested, look into it now.
    Me: 34 | He: 40
    TTC since 08/2012
    DX: DOR




  • It is officially past 5 and now the drinking will begin. 

    For some weird reason I've really been into Nirvana lately (ever since watching their induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame) so I started blasting their music while I chug back wine, try to play my electric guitar along with the music (it's been 17 yrs since I've played the guitar so I suck) and sing. What a great night I have ahead. Thank the SUN my DH is away on business so he doesn't have to hear me LOL. 

    Me: 33, DH: 32

    TTC: 2 years
    Fertility blood tests all normal
    Tilted uterus
    3 day ultrasound 17 follicles
    HSG: 11/13/13- tubes open
    DH SA: SUPER sperm (145 million, 84% motility, 22% morphology)
    All infection disease and immunity blood tests NORMAL

    FIRST IUI May 2014: 100 mg Clomid days 5-9, third ultrasound CD 13 revealed four follicles 27, 24 and 20 and 13mm. Trigger shot May 28 with IUI May 29 and 30 (fingers crossed) - BFN started spotting 11DPO :(

    IUI #2 B2B 6/23 and 6/24, three mature eggs and 130 million sperm! FX this is the month!  BFN 7/8

    3rd cycle benched due to cysts - TI with OPK tests -  BFN

    3rd mediated cycle: Clomid+Trigger+TI  (three follies left side, one on right as usual....what the hell right ovary get it together and produce some damn follicles!) 7DPO progesterone level 43 with NO suppositories YAY for a natural strong ovulation. Beta canceled started spotting 13DPO - Third time is not a CHARM! 14 day cycle WTF! Everything looks normal - RE wants to start injectables next cycle so this cycle I'm benched

    Officially benched until March....but still plan on trying the baking soda douche due to my excessive and thick CM

    JANUARY SIGGY CHALLENGE...This is so me!

    image


    Love this man....he was so before his time in his thoughts and ideas about the world....been obsessed about him lately bringing it back to the early 90s.

    image

    Never thought I would like long hair....

    image

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