October 2014 Moms

The Politics of Baby-Naming

Hey ladies,

Sorry for another Baby-Naming post, but I wanted to get your thoughts on the politics of baby-naming, specifically naming your child after a loved-one. Are you doing it? For a special person, special reason, religious reason? Are you avoiding it all together?

A little background, I'm Italian and the hubs is Jewish. The tradition in my family is the first-born is named after the mother's maternal grandmother (my mom's mom). The tradition in his family is that a child is named after someone who has passed (or is an elder). In the Jewish tradition, it also doesn't have to be the exact name but start with the first letter of that person's name. After some discussion early on, we agreed that we wouldn't name the kid after anyone in either side of the family as to avoid anyone feeling slighted (specifically, we know that his mom and my mom would never let it die if they found out we named our child after one side and not the other. neither would ever admit it, but yes, they can be that petty). I thought it was helping narrow down names (No J names, No H names, etc...). Now he's going back to the traditional view (described above). I'm just weighing everything to see if it's really worth it to put up a fight, in the long run.
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    edited September 2014

    We are having the middle name after my Mother's deceased father. I'm also Jewish, and traditionally you won't name a child after someone who is currently alive (bad luck, etc.) but we're not doing it because of any specific tradition. More so for personal reasons, and hubby is happy with it

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  • My son will have his own first name, but his middle name will be after DH's grandfather, who is still living. We know how much it will mean to him, plus he and DH's grandma are the sweetest people and have been so generous to us over the years. Part of me is sad I'm not giving him my dad's name as a MN, but my parents were so supportive of the idea when we told them LO's middle name would be after DH's grandpa. They think it's great!
  • When we chose our first son's name (Jack) I had actually suggested it, then DH mentioned that it was his great grandpa's name. We both loved the name, so we used it.

    With our second son, we picked Charles/Charlie just because we liked the name... then found out DH and I both have great grandfathers named Charles, so that worked. His middle name is after my brother that died.

    For this girl we decided on Violet for a fn which has no family connection. Her mn is Ann which is my mom and grandma's middle names. It was actually DH that suggested using my mom's middle, which makes me really happy. My mom is a huge part of my kids' lives and DH and I think it's a special way to honor her. Honestly, DH's mom doesn't really put in much effort so I don't feel bad using one over the other.
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  • Yes, our children have family names. It was important to us to continue traditions and to honor family. Luckily for us, there wasn't the pressure that you and your DH are facing as to who's name to use!
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  • Picking a name is hard!  My family tends to use a family name for the middle name, although there are a few kids that have a family name as a first name.  DH's family also does something similar, although it is a little less predictible (some have a family name some don't).  We both have deceased brothers and used DH's brother's name for our first son's middle name.  I'm thinking of using my brother's name for either the first or middle name for our second son- we haven't even settled on a list of first names, though.

    I think that it is a great if you can find a way to equitably use both family traditions and hopefully both mom/grandmas will respect how you decided to choose the name for YOUR child.   If you plan on having more than one child, you could use one family tradition with the first and the other with the second.  At the end of the day- it is a decision between you and your husband, not either family. 
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  • I think your original decision not to honor either tradition is the right one. Hubs and I are two different races and come from two different cultures and for the most part, we have chosen not to incorporate either culture into big decisions that we make. Our wedding didn't honor either culture, our kids will speak only English and maybe Spanish (which is not part of either of our cultures) because it's a useful language. This approach has just worked for us and it helps that neither of us are pretty big into our culture anyway.

    I am all about fairness and in my mind you either ignore both traditions or if you are planning on having multiple kids, use one tradition with the first kid and the other tradition with the second kid.

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  • The first name is not a family name on either side as far as we know.  For her middle name, there is some family connection on my side and the initial is the same as DH's beloved grandfather.  

    DH set the rule that any child shouldn't be named after someone still alive - he was named after his grandfather and said it was very confusing as a child when there were two people in the family with the same name.  


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  • No traditions in my family about baby naming, but for my husband's culture, they name the baby after the grandparents. But I didn't like MIL's name, so no way was I going to use it for DD. Instead we settled on a traditional name we both liked (which actually happened to be a family name on MIL's side), and our daughter's middle name is my husband's maternal grandmother's name (which is the Greek version of my maternal grandmother's name), so it had special meaning to both of us. My MIL was pissy about it, but it's hard for someone to stay too pissed off about not getting their way regarding baby naming when 1) they didn't participate in said making, and 2) they're looking in the face of a beautiful baby.



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  • That's a tough situation.  I agree that your initial inclination to not follow either tradition seems to be the best one in your situation.  it's unfortunate that either side would be so petty as to hold it against you, but if that's really the case, I think it's probably best to ignore all of it and pick a name completely independent of traditions and family names.

    DD's middle name is my maternal grandmother's name.  She was my only grandparent ever, and we were very close.  It was my idea, but DH was completely on board and even asked if I would prefer to make that her first name instead of middle.  I think this baby will have a family name as a middle name as well, and it'll either be DH's name (also his dad's name and pretty common through his family history, I think) or it'll be from my side (my maiden name, my brother's name, or one of the Swedish names of my great grandfathers).  The reason is that those are the family names we like.  Neither DH or I really care for most of the other family names on his side (at least the ones I know).  But we don't have the cultural traditions that you do, so I guess it's easier for our families to stay out of the name discussions.

    Good luck!
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  • DS1 is named after DH's grandfather.  Because DS1 had a family name and our girl name was family name, we decided to keep with our own tradition and have one family name for DS2.  We are using DH's middle name for DS2's MN.  It's a family name we both like, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything to either of us (though I bet DH will feel more strongly about it in the future).  A future child will be named after someone on my side of the family, just to keep things even.

    There is nothing wrong with making your own traditions.
  • We're naming him after DH's father (Michael).  DH has always had a Michael in his family.  His dad is thrilled and let's just say I'd better be earning about 157,000 points with his family.  Middle name will be my stepdad's name (Timothy); I don't think my stepdad felt slighted that it is Michael Timothy and not Timothy Michael.  Now if we were dealing with my mom and MIL, that would be a totally different story!

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  • Naming a human is hard work! Both my kiddos will have family names from my side as their middles and we pick names we both like for the first names. My son is Luke William (a grandfather, maiden name, my brother and nephew's middle) and this baby doesn't have an official first name yet, but her middle name is Jean after my great aunt.

    In your situation, I think you should pick a name you like regardless. You don't want to choose a name and then decide later that you were bullied into picking something you don't love or regret.
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  • Will this be your only child? If not, you can honor one tradition now and one with the next. Or do one for first name and one for the middle name. I find the choice to avoid tradition rather than try to embrace both sad, as I find it can enrich experiences and decisions.
  • Team green here so if LO is a boy he will be a jr. If LO is a girl we finally settled on a name- first name is after a great aunt of DH that he was close to and middle name will be my great aunt. Works out great haha no pun intended
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  • My first 2 have my parents' middle names - we are still deciding what to do for this one's middle name.  It's becoming a tradition on my side that the kids have a family middle name. 

    A couple thoughts if you are willing to compromise with your DH on this issue - you could use one family's tradition for the first name and one for the middle.  Or, (and I don't know if you are having a girl or a boy) you could do two first names (think something like Mary Ann) which could potentially incorporate both family traditions.

    It seems like someone on one side of the family is always upset over the name no matter what!!


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  • My husband and I had some baby name drama as well with my MIL.  My MIL Is from Russia and in her traditions a first born son (which we are having) is supposed to be named after either the father or a relative on the father's side.  See the problem is that all of my husband's family is named either Bill or John. I am really not kidding, there are so man first cousins named Bill or John that it actually get confusing when listening to my husbands childhood stories.  

    So we decided to not name him after a family member on my hubby's or on my side because I find it kind of annoying.  Also, typically sons and daughters in their culture are supposed to have the fathers first name as the middle name.  However, again my husband's name is Bill.  Every variation of a baby boy name with Bill as the middle makes him sound a little uneducated.  So we opted to use the formal William for LOs middle name.
  • My DS' middle name is my grandmother's maiden name and also my middle name. We have a whole genealogy surrounding that name, going back to some historical figures, so DH and I thought it would be cool to continue the tradition.

    If we have a daughter someday, she will likely have DH's mother's maiden name as a middle name. It's feminine and pretty and we will be happy to keep the name running.

    I am a huge fan of honoring family members by using their names, but I also like the name search and coming up with something unique. That's why it's great that babies have middle names. ;)

    IMO, if it's important to DH and doesn't bother you, I would keep some traditional names in the running.
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  • Our daughter's name is a family name. My grandmother, my aunt, my great grandmother, my great great great grandmother and fifth great grandmother all have the name Charlotte. We loved the name first and foremost, but I also wanted to use a family name since no one else had had a girl and uses the name.

    We went with Ann as a short middle name since Charlotte is so long. My great grandmother and grandmother at Charlotte Mae's.... My grandmother hated the middle name, so we had no problem switching it up. Anna is my other grandmother's name too, so in a way it is fitting to have a little of both of them in our LO.



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