February 2014 Moms

Update: Need advice on medical research. I am so heartbroken! (warning sick child involved)

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edited September 2014 in February 2014 Moms
I just got news that my first cousins son who is 2 months older to K so about 9 months was just diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his liver. We've celebrated our pregnancies and birth of our kids together. I even took pics of both the boys when I was in India. I just don't even know what to say. I am so so heart broken for them. I want to offer support but how do you even start with this. I don't know anything about the disease, he lives in India and probably will be money crunched. How do I approach this? What should I say? My mom told me the treatment will probably we very aggressive as the tumor is growing very fast and the prognosis is not great. Every time I think about it I cry. What should I do? As you can see from my post I'm just very emotionally distraught.

Update: Ok so I just had a long chat with my cousin. He said the Dr's in India are suggested Chemo as well as surgery. He is very upset as it seems just too much for an 8 month old. He wants to know what his options are before he goes in for treatment. He says he is fine financially for now as would rather take a loan and get the right treatment for his son than just go blindly with what is being told. He asked me to help with identifying treatment options in the US. We know the childrens cancer treatment centers are great here. I will post this on other boards too but wanted to ask those who have a background in medical field, how do I research the best treatment options? Hospitals? Dr's. I mean I can start with google and go from there but any suggestions on who can help? Any resources I can tap into directly? Please any suggestions to help him identify a good treatment plan for his son?

Re: Update: Need advice on medical research. I am so heartbroken! (warning sick child involved)

  • Oh my! :( I'm so sorry for you and your family. I can't even fathom what you all must be going through. I think @avswolf has offered the same advice as I would have. ((Huge hugs)) I'm sending my thoughts and prayers.
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  • You've got to start with "I'm so sorry" and "can I do anything to help?"

    Offering the fundraiser is a good idea.


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  • I'm sorry your family is going through this. I would offer as much support as possible and remember what type of support they need will likely change through the treatment process. Many T&Ps for you guys. (((Hugs)))


     

     


     

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  • Huge huge hugs to you and your family. I think fundraising could be a great option. I really hope that he beats it.
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  • I'm so sorry hon. I don't know that there is any "right" thing to say...you just need to let them know that you love them and are there for them.
  • I'm so sorry! I hope you can find a good way to offer support. I can't even imagine! My thoughts and prayers will be with your family.
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  • No new advice but want to add my hugs. Ill he keeping you and your family and that precious little one in my prayers.
  • Thanks ladies! I am going to call him tonight to just let him know I am there for him. I think they should be fine financially for now but depending on treatment not sure just yet. I just hope and pray this is something they can treat and the poor child is back to good health.
  • RondackHikerRondackHiker member
    edited September 2014
    As far as research, you can't really do it. Cancer treatments vary SO MUCH based on the type of cancer and the specific cells and the spread and so on. It's not really googleable or something you can teach yourself--it requires years of schooling to figure out the best treatment method.

    Chemo is pretty standard cancer treatment and likely to be recommended by doctors here as well. The type of chemo is what is important.

    If you want to reach out to doctors here, you'll need all his medical records as well as permission to share them and permission for the doctors to see them. Then you need to find a children's cancer specialist or better yet, a specialist in the type of cancer the baby has. You'll need to pay for the consult and the doctor may request more tests.


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  • @rondackhiker thank you. I think this is what I need to understand and help my cousin understand as well. I have a copy of some of his reports (MRI, C-scan). So I will use it as and when speaking to Dr's. His Pedi in India is my childhood friend so I can ask him to help me understand someone the medical terms in the report that will help me focus the research as well.

    I will ask my cousin what type of chemo they are asking him to go under because he seems to be freaked out with just the idea of it.
  • I have heard that St. Jude's children's hospital in Los Angeles offers free cancer treatment. Also, Ronald McDonald houses house families during treatment free of cost. No patient is ever charged. I know they live in India but they may want to consider something like this.
  • I have heard that St. Jude's children's hospital in Los Angeles offers free cancer treatment. Also, Ronald McDonald houses house families during treatment free of cost. No patient is ever charged. I know they live in India but they may want to consider something like this.

    St Jude's is very selective.


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    @rondackhiker thank you. I think this is what I need to understand and help my cousin understand as well. I have a copy of some of his reports (MRI, C-scan). So I will use it as and when speaking to Dr's. His Pedi in India is my childhood friend so I can ask him to help me understand someone the medical terms in the report that will help me focus the research as well.

    I will ask my cousin what type of chemo they are asking him to go under because he seems to be freaked out with just the idea of it.

    You need copies of ALL of his reports. Types of cancer cells, blood tests, liver function tests, etc. And releases from the baby's parents.

    Then you take those reports and your job is to find an expert to analyze and make recommendations. You're not going to be able to look at studies and decide the best cure. Studies don't equal a medical education and you need that background. Your job should be to find experts to look at this baby's records, not to look at treatments. Look for hospitals that take international patients, like Johns Hopkins. You understanding the medical terms won't help. You need experts in that field. Cancer is incredibly specialized.

    Also... If they're recommending chemo that's likely needed to save the baby's life. If they want to roll the dice and just do surgery, or opt out and enjoy the time they have left, support them.


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  • I have heard that St. Jude's children's hospital in Los Angeles offers free cancer treatment. Also, Ronald McDonald houses house families during treatment free of cost. No patient is ever charged. I know they live in India but they may want to consider something like this.

    St Jude's is very selective.
    And is located in Tennessee. You would have to be referred in, but it is an outstanding place.

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  • Md Anderson in Houston Texas is a top cancer center in the United States. I recently read about a child in Ireland who went there for treatment. The family raised the money through social media and one of those go fund me type accounts. What is the primary tumor? You need more than the copies of the reports. You need to collect the images themselves and if you can get your hands on the pathology slides themselves that is golden
    Thank you! My cousin is going to send me everything. I will add to a list of places to explore.
  • I'm so sorry. Lots of great advice here. I'm sending lots of thoughts & prayers.
  • jenni812 said:

    I have heard that St. Jude's children's hospital in Los Angeles offers free cancer treatment. Also, Ronald McDonald houses house families during treatment free of cost. No patient is ever charged. I know they live in India but they may want to consider something like this.

    St Jude's is very selective.
    And is located in Tennessee. You would have to be referred in, but it is an outstanding place.
    We have one out here as well. Shame about them being very selective.
  • jenni812 said:

    I have heard that St. Jude's children's hospital in Los Angeles offers free cancer treatment. Also, Ronald McDonald houses house families during treatment free of cost. No patient is ever charged. I know they live in India but they may want to consider something like this.

    St Jude's is very selective.
    And is located in Tennessee. You would have to be referred in, but it is an outstanding place.
    We have one out here as well. Shame about them being very selective.

    Well, they're a research hospital (so cases need to fit) that relies on public donations. One way they get great donations is to have a high cure rate... By selecting cases that will most likely be cured.

    They're not evil. They can't take all cases and they do a lot of good, but it's not as simple as "get cancer, go there".


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  • I'm so sorry your family is dealing with this.
    From what I know, both surgery and chemo are part of the treatment plans for this kind of cancer,

    If I were you, I would chose an academic center for treatment, as they will have access to more options in the way of clinical trials if initial treatment isn't successful.
    If it were me, I'd call Dana Farber first...that would be my first choice for treatment.

    Good luck....I'll be sending prayers
  • Thank you ladies. I will be doing some basic research and send it to my cousin and let him discuss with his Dr. It's not going to be easy paying for treatment in the US but at least he can get a sense of how much different treatment and chances of recovery will be. Perhaps I can help him get a consult with a specialist. I do pray that this is treatable and cured that's all.
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  • No advice. Just hugs, thoughts, and prayers!
  • I'm sorry you're going through this. In terms of researching and asking people who have been through something similar, Babycenter has a lot of really specific boards for different types of illnesses and I found a huge amount of information and support for DS on a heart defect-specific board. They also have a board for childhood cancer. Obviously you have to watch out for misinformation and biased opinions like anywhere on the internet, but I hope it helps. https://community.babycenter.com/groups/a53465/childhood_cancer_support
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  • Oh my heart aches for you and your family's pain :-( I have no advice but wanted to send cyber hugs to you

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