Success after IF

Is this out of line rude? ***UPDATED***

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edited August 2014 in Success after IF
Without going into too much detail, my flower girl has had a troubled life. She was adopted by a BSC narcissist. Her father (DH's best friend) wasn't married to the mother, but for all intents and purposes, he is this little girl's father. The woman he eventually married basically wanted nothing to do with his daughter though after they started having bio children. I pretty much hate this woman based on how she treated the daughter. She was a troubled girl, and when things got really rough in the teenage years her mother kicked her out. Her father's new wife had already said there is no room for her here anymore. As you can imagine a girl in this situation looks for love in all the wrong places.

DH and I ran into her earlier this year; I hadn't seen her in a long time. Her boyfriend was sullen and either he just doesn't have the social skills to make eye contact with adults or he was stoned. She was going to be turning 18 in a week. I was worried about her after that meeting and decided to friend her on fb so I could keep tabs on her. (I don't normally friend my friends' children.) I figure she is 18 now so she can make her own decisions and I frankly don't care what the wife thinks about it.

Recently she has been making some weird, vague posts on fb and I suspect she is pregnant. I have a mother from DS1's class coming over tomorrow to pick up a bunch of clothes DD has outgrown. I have a massive pile of baby stuff I was planning on taking in to donate next week after this mom goes through stuff. But now I'm thinking I should save it for my flower girl if she is in fact pg as I suspect. Would it be super rude of me to send her a message and ask her? I would tell her that I respect her privacy and would not disclose any info to her dad. 

I've also been thinking about inviting her over for dinner ever since we ran into her, boyfriend included if necessary. 

GAh! I just love this little girl so much and seriously HATE what her parents did to her. I feel completely helpless. But I want to help. 
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Re: Is this out of line rude? ***UPDATED***

  • Woah, sorry! Maybe that was a lot of detail. 
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  • I think a private message is okay. It's coming from a place of love.


    TTC#1 for 19 months with PCOS and MFI IUI#3 + injectables = BFP!!!!  Beta#1-134(13dpiui) Beta #2-392(15dpiui) 
    #1 born December 2011
    TTC#2 - Beta #1 -51@10dpo Beta#2 -1353 @16dpo
    #2 born May 2013
    TTC # 3 June 2014 BFP 12-1-14
    #3 born August 2015 
    #4!!!!!!! due June 2017 
  • I agree!

    Maybe you could try and meet up with her for lunch (hopefully without the db bf) and get a better feel of whats going on before you ask?

    I sorry her life has been so rough; that's heartbreaking :(
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    TTC# 1 since 5/10
    Me:34 Type 1 Diabetes, Ankylosing Spondylitis, Hypothyroid DH:35 Perfect
    DX: Unexplained IF
    Many IUI's with various meds all BFFN
    IVF #1 11/11 canceled due to OHSS
    IVF #2 Feb/March 2012 ET of 2 on day 3 4/7 BFP! 5/1 u/s blighted ovum
    IVF #3 July 2012 ET of 3 on day 3 7/24 BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w4d on 3/9/13

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    TTC #2
    IVF #4 May/June 2014 ER 6/4 18R 8M 8F ET 6/9 1 blast, 2 frosties
    Beta 6/18 BFFN

    FET of 2 blasts 7/24...BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w3d on 3/17/15

    TTC#3
    IVF #5 June 2018- PGS planned, no surviving embryos
    IVF #6 August 2018- ET of 2 on day 3 - Chemical pregnancy
    IVF #7 August 2019-....?
  • I would message her about lunch or dinner as a night out for you and her. I don't think I would ask her out right in the message, but instead waiting until said lunch or dinner to see if she tells you. If she doesn't tell, I would say I've seen your FB posts and I am concerned. Please know that what I'm about to ask won't be repeated to your dad. It's strictly between us. Then ask your question. I don't think it's rude, it's out of concern.
    this!

    Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born. 

    6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived

    10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP 

  • mcgeeva said:
    I would message her about lunch or dinner as a night out for you and her. I don't think I would ask her out right in the message, but instead waiting until said lunch or dinner to see if she tells you. If she doesn't tell, I would say I've seen your FB posts and I am concerned. Please know that what I'm about to ask won't be repeated to your dad. It's strictly between us. Then ask your question. I don't think it's rude, it's out of concern.
    this!
    Double this. It sounds like you may be the only person who truly cares about her well being. She will probably open up to you since she doesn't have anybody but you looking out for her. 
    DH & I: 29
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    TTC #2 since October 2011
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    7/2013 - IUI #1: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFN
    8/2013 - IUI #2: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFP! Beta #1 (12 dpiui) 8/21: 45  Beta #2 (16 dpiui) 8/26: 301 Beta #3 (21 dpiui) 8/30: 1,929. 1st Ultrasound 9/4 - One perfect sac. 2nd Ultrasound 9/13 - Heartbeat at 124 bpm! Anniversary  

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  • I also like pinkmickey's idea. Hopefully she will open up to you on her own. How very sad :(
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility

    TTC #1 
    IUI's #1 - #3 Clomid = BFN's, IUI #4 Follistim = BFP
    Grayson arrived via emergency c-section on 7/28/12!

    TTC #2 
    IUI's #1 - #4 Follistim = BFN's
    IVF #1 w/ ICSI + PGS: Lupron/Follistim/Menopur
    ER 4/13 - 19R, 13F, 4 PGS tested embryos, 1 normal
    5/14 FET: BFP. Beta #1: 123, Beta #2: 327, Beta #3: 854
    Cora arrived 1/23/15 via RCS!
  • I'm not sure I'd want someone outright asking if I am pregnant but some friendly concern can't hurt.  I would probably word it as "is there anything you need right now or that you want to talk about/work through?  I'm open for talking anytime and it would just be between you and me."  Or, something along those lines vs asking her if she's pregnant. 

    Kelly, Mom to Christopher Shannon 9.27.06, Catherine Quinn 2.24.09, Trey Barton lost on 12.28.09, Therese Barton lost on 6.10.10, Joseph Sullivan 7.23.11, and our latest, Victoria Maren 11.15.12

    Secondary infertility success with IVF, then two losses, one at 14 weeks and one at 10 weeks, then success with IUI and then just pure, crazy luck.  Expecting our fifth in May as the result of a FET.

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  • Thanks, ladies! I will send her a message inviting her to a lunch date or something.
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  • Good luck qb! I hope she can confide in you; whatever the case may be!
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    TTC# 1 since 5/10
    Me:34 Type 1 Diabetes, Ankylosing Spondylitis, Hypothyroid DH:35 Perfect
    DX: Unexplained IF
    Many IUI's with various meds all BFFN
    IVF #1 11/11 canceled due to OHSS
    IVF #2 Feb/March 2012 ET of 2 on day 3 4/7 BFP! 5/1 u/s blighted ovum
    IVF #3 July 2012 ET of 3 on day 3 7/24 BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w4d on 3/9/13

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    TTC #2
    IVF #4 May/June 2014 ER 6/4 18R 8M 8F ET 6/9 1 blast, 2 frosties
    Beta 6/18 BFFN

    FET of 2 blasts 7/24...BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w3d on 3/17/15

    TTC#3
    IVF #5 June 2018- PGS planned, no surviving embryos
    IVF #6 August 2018- ET of 2 on day 3 - Chemical pregnancy
    IVF #7 August 2019-....?
  • **UPDATE**

    Well, unfortunately my suspicions were right, she is pregnant. We had her over for dinner tonight and she told us. She is currently living in a foster home for girls, but she and her boyfriend plan to keep the baby and they are making plans to move in together. I'm not sure if he has a job or not. She doesn't. 

    So I'll pack up all our baby stuff and return it to the attic until she needs it. Sigh. It is just not a great situation. She has told both her dad and her mom. She said they are both mad at her right now and she hasn't spoken with either of them in several weeks. 

    Please send good thoughts her way. She needs all the cosmic support she can get. 
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  • Oh, that is very unfortunate :( many T&Ps for her situation to improve!

    It's very kind of you to help her ❤
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    TTC# 1 since 5/10
    Me:34 Type 1 Diabetes, Ankylosing Spondylitis, Hypothyroid DH:35 Perfect
    DX: Unexplained IF
    Many IUI's with various meds all BFFN
    IVF #1 11/11 canceled due to OHSS
    IVF #2 Feb/March 2012 ET of 2 on day 3 4/7 BFP! 5/1 u/s blighted ovum
    IVF #3 July 2012 ET of 3 on day 3 7/24 BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w4d on 3/9/13

    Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
    TTC #2
    IVF #4 May/June 2014 ER 6/4 18R 8M 8F ET 6/9 1 blast, 2 frosties
    Beta 6/18 BFFN

    FET of 2 blasts 7/24...BFP!
    Healthy baby girl born at 36w3d on 3/17/15

    TTC#3
    IVF #5 June 2018- PGS planned, no surviving embryos
    IVF #6 August 2018- ET of 2 on day 3 - Chemical pregnancy
    IVF #7 August 2019-....?
  • That's so sad

    Married: 5/09 ~ TTC Since: 10/10 ~ PCOS ~ Progesterone from 10/10 - 2/11 ~ HSG on 3/18 - Clear ~ Started Metformin 1000mg & Clomid 50mg 2/11 ~ Metformin upped to 1500mg 4/6 ~ 6/7 Now going to SG and put on Clomid, Ovidrel, Gonal F, Prometrium, Estrace ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP!!!!!! March 6th our little man was born. 

    6/17/13 - Ovidrel, Follistim, Prometrium ~ IUI #1 7/2 = BFP! March 17th our St. Pattys day baby arrived

    10/29/17 - Started process for IVF, got pregnant & miscarried a 2nd time since summer. 2/22 started stims - Menopur, Gonal F, Cetrotide - retrieval 3/6 - , PIO, estrace 3xday - FET 4/18 = Beta 1: 616; Beta 2: 1342 = BFP 

  • Very sad :( I'm sure she appreciates having your love and support. I hope things work out for the best.
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility

    TTC #1 
    IUI's #1 - #3 Clomid = BFN's, IUI #4 Follistim = BFP
    Grayson arrived via emergency c-section on 7/28/12!

    TTC #2 
    IUI's #1 - #4 Follistim = BFN's
    IVF #1 w/ ICSI + PGS: Lupron/Follistim/Menopur
    ER 4/13 - 19R, 13F, 4 PGS tested embryos, 1 normal
    5/14 FET: BFP. Beta #1: 123, Beta #2: 327, Beta #3: 854
    Cora arrived 1/23/15 via RCS!
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