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NWMR: INLAWS

I love my inlaws.. I really do. But they are just different than my parents in a lot of ways and in a lot of ways that I don't agree with. Nothing BAD.. just parenting decisions/life decisions/discipline/etc.. I am having a really hard time coming to grips with the fact DS will eventually have to spend the night/weekend with them. He has already stayed with my parents multiple times and I know that it is getting under MILs skin that they have not had him yet. Their house is just very rowdy and loud and so opposite from how I grew up and how I plan on raising DS... Hubby agrees thank goodness. Anyone have any tips?! We have tried to gently hint about how things are and how we expect them to be when he is there.. But things haven't changed. We have two overnight trips planned soon and I know they are going to wonder why DS isn't staying with them..?!

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  • It is not necessarily 'safety' concerns.. It is just that DS is crawling and into EVERYTHING and needs pretty constant attention. There is MIL, FIL, their 20 year old (her 1 year old), and an their extremely rowdy 8 year old daughter. 
  • I guess I should have mentioned he is 7 months! And the 8 year old thinks she can pick him up and carry him around (even though I have said from day 1 that is a NO!) and the 1 year old wants to liss and touch and lay on him all the time! That is my concern! 
  • I'll be in the minority and say that I think if you don't want your IL's to watch your LO, that is totally up to you.  I would never let someone watch my LO that I wasn't comfortable with just because that person might feel bad.  I recognize it's LO's grandparents but still, I think as mom you get a say.  My DS is 2 and neither set of grandparents has watched him overnight before (of course DH and I have never both been away overnight at the same time but part of that is because I'm not comfortable with DS not being with at least one of us).  I know that my parents desperately want to watch him overnight but I'm just honestly not comfortable with it yet, and I'm not going to go outside my own comfort zone just so that they can watch him overnight, you know? 

    FWIW, I think you should get used to your LO being around other kids if you ever plan on having any more kids.  My DD is constantly getting kissed, hugged, accidentally bopped in the head, stepped on, etc. by DS.  And a) she's fine, and b) there's nothing I can really do about that with an infant and a 2 year old both living in the same house, so I have to get used to it.  So I don't know that if that's your ONLY reason for not wanting your IL's to watch LO, that it's the most valid reason, but that being said, again, it's up to you 100%.  I really don't have any reason for neither set of grandparents watching DS overnight other than that I just don't feel totally comfortable with it and that he's at that age where he's just really particular about his routine.  The other night DH and I tried to switch off since I was able to get DD down early, and DS was not having it with me trying to get him down for the night.  Are those the best reasons in the world, of course not, but there will be PLENTY of time for DS to have a sleepover with grandma and grandpa and I'm not overly concerned about doing it now when neither I nor DS are probably totally on board with it.

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  • I guess I did not do a good job of explaining my reasoning because reading it, it sounds silly. lol And yes I know the 1 year old kissing on him is one thing. But they don't try and stop her when she is crawling all over him and grabs and (accidentally) scratches him or pulls his hair or things like that. They just let them "play" and sorry but a 7 month old can't "play" with a 1 year old!! And there are things like she gave him ice cream one time when I had made it very clear I did not want him having anything like that yet. And I know she thinks I am over bearing on protecting him and what I allow him to eat or drink but he is my child and what we say goes - bottom line! I am afraid she has the attitude "what she doesn't know won't hurt her" and that is fine when the child is older but not at this age. The 8 year old does gymnastics all over the house, tries to pick him up, etc. They have a large dog that comes inside and is very rowdy and while we have a large dog too I am very cautious with her and the baby! 
  • @Privacywanted Read my last post. I think that may make things a little more clear! And as you say it is a 'gut' thing w/ me on most of this. 
  • We had food issues with my ILs. Dd is sensitive to dairy and they thought I was making it up (she gets constipated and painfully gassy). She hasn't spent the night there. It took a while for me to trust them to watch her. As long as you are still allowing them to interact then I don't think you have to have them watch your child. I think the food thing is a cause for concern and a reason to wait until your child is one but the other reasons are really not concerning.
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  • I am tightly wound! I know I am and I get it honestly from my mother who I love and respect dearly! I just have very specific thoughts on raising him and what I think is right/wrong or ok/not ok. But I am like that in all areas of my life and I know it makes life difficult in some cases but that is who I am and I own it and own up to it! DH is completely on board and agrees completely with me.. I guess keeping the traveling news to a minimum is our best option!
  • My in-laws are similar into they not only let my kids have things that I don't prefer but MIL has actually gone out of her way to blatantly go against my wishes.  It annoys the crap out of me but it's not so bad that I would prevent my kids from having a relationship with them.

    FWIW, I know that there are things that my parents do that drive DH crazy.  I think it's easier to ignore your own parents quirks because you've grown up with them and are used to it.
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  • I am in no way trying to stop a "relationship" it is just the overnight at THEIR house with all they have going on! They have kept him many times at our home when we had something to do or somewhere to be.  And yes, I know my parents do things as well that DH thinks is crazy but they have an empty nest and the atmosphere is just different. Plus, I can easily communicate w/ my parents on what I think and feel. My IL's are not quite as receptive to our wishes and not to mention IMPOSSIBLE to get in touch with. I can count on one hand the number of times I have called and she has answered or responded quickly to a text. One time they kept DS at our home her phone was dead and we don't have a house phone! I can't deal with that!
  • I get what you mean about the 8 year old thinking she can carry him around. I have a 7 year old niece with the same thoughts. I've found that after the initial excitement of LO being at her house or at grandmas (who watches LO and the niece after school) she goes and plays somewhere else and acts like he's not there until it's time for him to leave. As for the 1 year old, I would think between making sure both babies are fed, changed, kept happy, etc, there will be minimal time for them to play rough. I don't know though. But Grandparents are there for kids to get away with things that their parents wouldn't let them do normally. Eventually your child and the grandparents will have "secrets" and special treats and that's what cteates
    that bond and relationship. It's hard to not be uptight and micromanage, but I've found things go much better when I loosen up and pick my battles.
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    I haven't done any overnights with my kids in someone else's care at all. I can see doing it in the future but we just haven't done it, so I know this puts me in different shoes than most of the posters. However, in my mind you aren't preventing the relationship with them, you are talking about overnights, which is a different thing than going and hanging out, asking them to babysit for a few hours etc.

    It's my personal opinion that overnights are not necessary to a relationship with your grandparents.

    Also, I don't think grandparents or other family members for that matter have to be even in overnight visits just b/c they want to be. I think that deciding what you are comfortable with and what you aren't is your and your H's prerogative.

    The way I would personally handle it is to not bring up the subject of overnight trips and not bring up the subject of where your kid is staying when you go overnight.

    If your ILs bring it up, I'd probably just tell them that you'll keep them in mind next time and then do whatever you want when the time comes. Basically, I'd just avoid avoid avoid telling them anything definitive. And maybe when your LO is older you'll feel differently, and certainly the 20 year old won't be living there forever with her kids. I just don't see that any good will come from being less passive aggressive than that.

    ETA: holy run on sentence! Corrected for some grammar.



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  • I can understand where you're coming from. My IL's are totally, totally different from my family. My girls (20 months and 6 YO) have spent the night with my mom and my sister a few times, but with my IL's only once. My hesitation is because my MIL is extremely religious, to the point that I think it's crazy. ie- kids can only watch bible cartoons- things like that. That being said, they are completely cared for and they enjoy being with my IL's. My sister and mom on the other hand take great care of the girls, but their homes are I guess a little rowdy. My mom lets them have lots of sugar (last time I went to pick them up, baby was drinking a Capri Sun) and at my sisters, she has a wild four year old boy plus a puppy. Someones bound to get their head bonked or something like that. Regardless of the house, the girls are always cared for and come home happy and just fine. The rules are always different at other peoples houses (my Grandma would put peppermint schnapps on our ice cream- for real), but unless it's a true safety concern, I feel fine with it.

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    I don't disagree w/ what other people are saying.  But I have to say this:

    First, while I give my parents some leeway because "they are the grandparents", I DO feel there is a line between letting them spoil your child a little and then out and out disregarding your rules.  I do NOT feel that grandparents should just be given free reign to do whatever they want with your child.

    And I hate the argument of "they raised your DH!".  My ILs did a great job raising DH, but they aren't the same people that they were 40 years ago!  On many levels. 

    If you aren't comfortable, then you aren't comfortable.  There is absolutely no rule that because your LO spends the night w/ your parents means you HAVE to let him spend the night w/ your ILs.  Perhaps some of your reasons are a bit nit-picky, but in the end, this is YOUR child and if you AND your DH don't want to let LO spend the night then you don't have to


  • As a FTM, I am in the, if you aren't comfortable, don't do it camp.  I would not leave my LO with my in laws because they make poor decisions, safety issues, and a million other reasons.  It would be nice if we got along better and that just isnt in the cards right now. 

     I tried to convince myself for a while to let MIL babysit for just a few hours, but just couldn't do it.  The reason was some safety issues that took place with my niece when she was caring for her.  And MIL didn't see any of it as wrong (just one example, taking the baby out of the car seat on the highway because she had to burp.  Didn't pull over, just had her BF keep driving on 95 while she burped my niece.  This happened more than once and is just one of many examples.).

    Anyways, I digress.  My point is, I thought it was silly I was trying to "convince" myself to let her babysit.  I am LO's advocate and will do what I think is best for her and our family, and stressing myself out about trying to please others just didnt make any sense.   I am just normally pretty vague anytime my MIL brings baby sitting up and never really tell her when we go anywhere.  This works for us because we are not very close
  • VOR said:
    I don't disagree w/ what other people are saying.  But I have to say this:

    First, while I give my parents some leeway because "they are the grandparents", I DO feel there is a line between letting them spoil your child a little and then out and out disregarding your rules.  I do NOT feel that grandparents should just be given free reign to do whatever they want with your child.

    And I hate the argument of "they raised your DH!".  My ILs did a great job raising DH, but they aren't the same people that they were 40 years ago!  On many levels. 

    If you aren't comfortable, then you aren't comfortable.  There is absolutely no rule that because your LO spends the night w/ your parents means you HAVE to let him spend the night w/ your ILs.  Perhaps some of your reasons are a bit nit-picky, but in the end, this is YOUR child and if you AND your DH don't want to let LO spend the night then you don't have to


    I agree on "they raised DH" comment as well. Yes they raised him but he also now sees faults in their ways so that doesn't really matter to me.

    And totally agree that there is a line between being grandparents and stepping over boundaries that parents have set. 

    Thanks everyone for the comments. At the end of this I am obviously much more over protective than the norm but that is OK! I think at the end of the day we have to do what we know/feel works for us and for now that will be avoiding the subject and keeping travel on the DL :)
  • I don't leave my LO with my in-laws overnight.  I don't trust their judgement or their ability to stay focused on her. They also don't respect my feeding choices and she has come home from their place with diarrhea numerous times.

    I also don't let them drive her around.  My MIL has actually Skyped with us on her while driving.  As in holding the wheel, driving down the road, and Skyping on her phone in her other hand. 

    I also hate the arguement, "They raised your husband."  My husband is 28 years old.  He hasn't lived with them in 10 years.  Sheeet.... I had to undo a lot of that " great parenting" anyway once he got to me hehe.

     

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  • I don't leave my LO with my in-laws overnight.  I don't trust their judgement or their ability to stay focused on her. They also don't respect my feeding choices and she has come home from their place with diarrhea numerous times.

    I also don't let them drive her around.  My MIL has actually Skyped with us on her while driving.  As in holding the wheel, driving down the road, and Skyping on her phone in her other hand. 

    I also hate the arguement, "They raised your husband."  My husband is 28 years old.  He hasn't lived with them in 10 years.  Sheeet.... I had to undo a lot of that " great parenting" anyway once he got to me hehe.

     

    That is exactly how I feel. And yes, I have undone quite a bit of the damage as well!!!! ;)

    And skying while driving... EEEKKK! I would FREAK!
  • @chloebeth930‌ I hope you refused to skype with her. I'm very anti-distracted driving since my brother was killed by a distracted driver who looked down at his phone to make a call. Mere seconds meant that when he looked up it was too late to stop him from slamming into my brothers patrol car ( with lights flashing). For me ending distracted driving behaviors is a two way street. If you know someone is driving while texting/skyping/dialing or talking to you please refuse to continue the conversation


    I did!  Once I realized what she was doing I told her that we were getting off Skype and that she could either call back once she arrived at her destination or pulled over.  She has attempted this multiple times.  She says, "She didn't want to miss out on the chance to see DD." 

    Sorry crazy... I don't want my DD to witness you get into an accident. 

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  • OP--can your in-laws come to your house to babysit overnight and you and DH go somewhere for a quick getaway? You wouldn't have any non-approved food on hand and the atmosphere would be quieter without the other kids and big dog. 

    My in-laws do drive me a little crazy with my son, but I try to pick my battles. They live in our neighborhood and go to our church so we see them probably 5 out of 7 days of the week. 

    They love our son with the intensity of 1,000 suns...MIL is obsessed. It gets to be a bit obnoxious at times but she loves him...isn't that what we all want? 

    The thing that gets on my nerves is that she will do something she knows we don't want her to do with DS and then do the whole "Oops! Nana got caught!" act, which is annoying. It mainly centers on food and sleep. She raised DH on white bread, bologna, and kool-aid. My parents were fruit/veg out of the garden, no sugar cereal, no twinkies parents. She gives our son a lot of sugar, which would be ok if it were once in a while. But she sees him multiple times a week. She also can't/won't put him down for a nap,and lets him stay up unreasonably late. OK, vent over! ;)
  • K3am said:
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    I guess I did not do a good job of explaining my reasoning because reading it, it sounds silly. lol And yes I know the 1 year old kissing on him is one thing. But they don't try and stop her when she is crawling all over him and grabs and (accidentally) scratches him or pulls his hair or things like that. They just let them "play" and sorry but a 7 month old can't "play" with a 1 year old!! And there are things like she gave him ice cream one time when I had made it very clear I did not want him having anything like that yet. And I know she thinks I am over bearing on protecting him and what I allow him to eat or drink but he is my child and what we say goes - bottom line! I am afraid she has the attitude "what she doesn't know won't hurt her" and that is fine when the child is older but not at this age. The 8 year old does gymnastics all over the house, tries to pick him up, etc. They have a large dog that comes inside and is very rowdy and while we have a large dog too I am very cautious with her and the baby! 
    Honestly, nothing you've said sounds like your son is any harm. None of these are reasons that I personally would use to say no for an overnight. He may get some sweets or a little more noise than you're used to, but it's not the end of the world. They're grandparents, they've earned the right to spoil him on occasion. I know you say it's "because he's so young" - but are these also going to be issues when he's older? Probably. 

    I understand only wanting the best for your son, but I think you're really pushing your IL's away. The relationship with IL's is strained enough as it is, why make it any harder? Is it possible to let him spend the day with them and then graduate up to overnights, just so you get more comfortable with the idea?

    FWIW, DD will not be doing overnights with IL's or my mom. None of them are physically capable of taking care of her without someone else around. They've acknowledged the fact, but they're still sad about it. They come out every few months to "babysit" DD. It's usually a terrible occasion. She's afraid of them and screams mostly the whole time. Usually, they wind up with the neighbors because they can help calm her down. MH and I try to consider this as date days, but it's definitely not relaxing. But it makes them happy, and we hope it will help them establish a relationship in the long term. Sometimes, you go against what you would like to do, to do something you need to do.
     
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    @K3am. Just wanted to let you know as painful as those "day dates" are keep it up. There is light at the end of the tunnel. We had a similar situation with DD and MIL. DD would go absolutely crazy when we left her with MIL, but we kept at it because MIL so desperately wanted a relationship with her, and DH and I wanted it for both of them. It eventually happened after months and months of work. But now at 26months she loves having Grandma babysit her, and eagerly goes to her when we get together.
  • Um, a 7 month old and a 1 year old can't play together?  Why not?  And I just went to the beach and let a not quite 9 year old pick up my 1 year old and take him to the swings.  Without me (but I could see them).  The horror.
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  • I can conjugate the past, present, and future tenses of the verb "to lose my shit" about feeding my children food I've specifically asked them not to. I'm not a food grinch by any stretch of the imagination, but if I say she can't have a particular thing, that's the law. (Example: we were trying to figure out if DD was allergic to strawberries. Had to threaten ILs within an inch of their lives to get them to stop feeding her strawberries. Turns out she is allergic to raw strawberries. That red stuff all over her isn't eczema, it's hives. No matter what you think, MiL. And no matter how much she loves them.)
  • Um, a 7 month old and a 1 year old can't play together?  Why not?  And I just went to the beach and let a not quite 9 year old pick up my 1 year old and take him to the swings.  Without me (but I could see them).  The horror.
    They can't play together because the 7 month old is still very weebly woobly and can't sit up well and the 1 year old is trying to figure out walking and they both grab and scratch unintentionally so no I would prefer they not play together. And don't comment and be a smart ass. If you choose to let you 1 year old completely out of your sight with a 9 year old go right ahead. 
  • I cringe whenever I send my daughter for an overnight at MIL's, but I do it because they love each other and I love a night of free baby-sitting. MIL keeps her up 3 hours past her bedtime, feeds her off schedule, has a tiny apartment filled to the brim with crap (she could be on an episode of Hoarders), and she just basically drives me bonkers. DD is a disaster for days afterwards. But I still send her.

    I know that MIL will not let any true harm come to "her baby girl." There may be a bump or bruise, and her sleep schedule is going to get off, but no permanent damage is being done. Rather, DD is developing a relationship with her grandma and that's more important to me.

    And I say that my husband is who he is DESPITE being raised by his mother. His brother is a hot mess.

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  • ClaryPax said:
    If you are not comfortable leaving your 7 month old with them then I wouldn't do it.  I would just say that with the other kids in the house you aren't comfortable yet since they are a little rowdy with your 7 month old.  However, once baby gets older I think he would be fine in that atmosphere, maybe at a year 1/2 or 2.  

    I agree with this.  While he's a baby, it's fine.  When he gets older, do not limit his time with his grandparents.  A toddler could easily handle that fun, exciting environment. 
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  • What I try to remember is that spending time with grandparents is an enriching experience for my DD. And that as hard as I try to be a 100% parent, I know that this isn't possible, that I don't know everything, and that I can't control everything.  The love that DD has for her grandparents is magical, and I don't want my irrational fears or need to control things to get in the way of that.

    I read on these boards once to pick the top 3 things that are most important to me. These are the 3 rules I ask of my ILs when they watch DD.  Everything else I leave up to them. 

    Sometimes all I have to do is offer a simple explanation and it gets MIL on board.  When DD spent the night, MIL specially made up the twin bed...so sweet...but I had to tell her that DD still rolls off her bed which is why she is still on a mattress at home.  MIL moved her to a lower position. What I didn't do was direct MIL or insist, rather I gave her a logical explanation and let MIL reach her own decision once she had the facts in hand. 

    At the same overnight visit, I offered to loan MIL our baby gate; MIL declined.  I reminded her that DD does tend to roam around and get in to things if she wakes in the middle of the night.  I knew that not only would MIL not want DD to get hurt, she also wouldn't want DD to destroy any of MIL's things. MIL told me the next morning they ended up putting up the baby gate. Even though it turned out that DD slept through the night she was glad she had it. 

    What were my three rules...? Give DD her medicine as I prescribe, no alcohol tastings (its a cultural thing), bedtime at 7:15.  MIL told me their plan for the evening and it sounded great to me.  We're pretty lucky in that we have good two-way communication.

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