UOs?

Firefly9 · August 2014

I don't see it started yet, so let's hear them!

RondackHiker · August 2014

I don't get the stitch fix boxes. Someone ships you new clothes... yay?

I think I'm missing a fashion gene because even though I've read the posts about them, I don't get them. It seems like everyone else likes the boxes and to hear about them.

JackieP1023 · August 2014

Okay, so the first two UOs aren't UOs to me! I also hate pickles and I missed the fashion gene!

Firefly9 · August 2014

RondackHiker said:

I don't get the stitch fix boxes. Someone ships you new clothes... yay?

I think I'm missing a fashion gene because even though I've read the posts about them, I don't get them. It seems like everyone else likes the boxes and to hear about them.

Same. While I know I need to venture out in my style choices, I couldn't just let them send me stuff for the very reason it would all get sent back due to crappy fit.

Firefly9 · August 2014

bepandnick said:

I think Weird Al make for a fun Super Bowl Half Time Show.

I would love to see that!

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

Apparently this is UO for my MIL, but "washing" bottles with the same nasty ass dishwater that you used to hand wash plates/etc which now has floating remnants of food is disgusting and not acceptable. This was not actually helpful since I rewashed everything on principle. Andplusalso, we have a dishwasher, why are you handwashing my dishes and not playing with your grandkids?

I didn't think this would be an UO, but I like pickles lol. But only spears. And on the side, not on my sandwich/burger.

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

An actual UO here - I don't like poptarts.

RondackHiker · August 2014

@boogerbearoriginal‌ my MIL hand washes shit too. She says dishwashers are a waste of water and that it's not worth waiting to fill the dishwasher before washing. I tell her we've got enough forks to wait the day for a full washer in order to run it, but she still takes stuff out of it and hand washes.

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

RondackHiker said:

@boogerbearoriginal‌ my MIL hand washes shit too. She says dishwashers are a waste of water and that it's not worth waiting to fill the dishwasher before washing. I tell her we've got enough forks to wait the day for a full washer in order to run it, but she still takes stuff out of it and hand washes.

I've always heard dishwashers were better than handwashing for water consumption, assuming you're running a full load. But she takes things OUT of the dishwasher to hand wash? So weird.

MamaAllison · August 2014

@elf828 you don't like manicures?!? I'm sorry you are broken.

Warning: possible trigger to follow re: child abuse.

I'm interested in seeing if this is an UO among the more educated bunch that F14 is (vs the general public). There was a sad story on my FB feed this morning about a mom that was doing some pretty horrible things to her five kids. All the comments were saying that she should be abused in the same way. I think 5 years ago I would have said the same. But now my first thought was that she clearly needed help, and must have been suffering from some sort of mental illness to act that way towards her children. So is my opinion unpopular? Do people like this need punishment or help?

JackieP1023 · August 2014

@boogerbearoriginal‌ I don't think that is a UO.. We handwash, because we don't have a dishwasher, and I insist that bottles are washed first, in the clean water. I also have a system for washing regular dishes in order from least dirty to super gross nasty. MH thinks I am crazy, but I wash dishes 99% of the time... And I'll do it my own way, thank you very much!

Firefly9 · August 2014

I love our dishwasher and like it even better when it's just full enough that I can load it up with all my bottles and pump parts and not have to hand wash them.

When I do hand wash them, 90% of the time, it's always brand new CLEAN fresh water, and I still sterilize all the parts, but not the big bottles (FFFC?).

MamaAllison · August 2014

@elf828‌ all fair points! I'm glad you like pedis! Those are my favorite!!

emar129 · August 2014

@MamaAllison‌ I think they need help: I worked in children's services though, so I saw a whole different side of it

karich · August 2014

I never, ever sterilize anything. Maybe I did for the first wash (can't remember) but it's not something I do anymore.

Soap and water here.

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

@MamaAllison - see, my gut reaction is the "torture her!!" because how could a person do bad things to their own children?! But, truly, torturing her is hardly the answer. It won't teach her that is wrong, and while I don't know what she did I'm going to assume she has serious issues of her own that need to be addressed. Punishing someone doesn't really address the underlying reason for why it happened in the first place. And her suffering will not undo the pain and trauma she caused those children. I get why people feel that way, and I certainly don't deny their anger and outrage. But is torturing her going to solve anything? Isn't it just bringing us down to her level of evil? Wouldn't our resources be better spent helping those children heal?

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

JackieP1023 said:

@boogerbearoriginal‌ I don't think that is a UO.. We handwash, because we don't have a dishwasher, and I insist that bottles are washed first, in the clean water. I also have a system for washing regular dishes in order from least dirty to super gross nasty. MH thinks I am crazy, but I wash dishes 99% of the time... And I'll do it my own way, thank you very much!

FWIW I hoped it wouldn't be UO here, lol.

I am just still really grossed out that I came home to half done dishes, with the dirty ones (including a few bottles) still stewing in lukewarm water with floating chunks of food. And clearly she doesn't think it's a problem because it's every.single.week. Reason #13584654 that we're not going to be relying on her much longer.

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

ChiaWombat said:

@MamaAllison I think the mother and children all need to get into therapy. I'm with @bookshelves, though (quelle suprise), in that I also don't support capital punishment.

I'm also opposed to jailing drug addicts if they've committed no other crimes; they should be in treatment facilities, not jail.

OMG this a million times.

Codypup · August 2014

boogerbearoriginal said:

ChiaWombat said:

@MamaAllison I think the mother and children all need to get into therapy. I'm with @bookshelves, though (quelle suprise), in that I also don't support capital punishment.

I'm also opposed to jailing drug addicts if they've committed no other crimes; they should be in treatment facilities, not jail.

OMG this a million times.

Weirdly enough, I kind of disagree with the bolded. I think for a first or even second offense, sure, treatment is preferable.

But the sad truth is, so many treatment centers just don't work long term for addicts. They pump their patients full of even more drugs (sleeping pills, anti anxiety meds, benzos, etc) and only keep them for 28 days. It takes way longer than 28 days to rehabilitate someone, and usually those people return right back to their same situation, surrounded by the same people and the same things. This is also really sad, but in my experience, many treatment centers (especially outpatient) are just vehicles for addicts to meet each other and score new connections.

Maybe I'm cynical, but that's just been my personal experience.

Sometimes, jail is the rock bottom people need to WANT to seek help on their own. Sometimes jail is the only way to keep those people safe from themselves.

BB0214 · August 2014

There are a lot of people who don't need to be in jail or prison. I'm not convinced it really deters people from crime at all. What happens is that people spend years incarcerated, have little opportunity to rehabilitate, and acquire no new skills. Then they're released and are expected to find jobs when most places won't hire a felon. Then out of no other option, return to a life of crime and the cycle repeats itself. Don't get me wrong, I do feel there are some people who should be in prison. But resources are put into the wrong place.
Stepping off my soap box now.

Codypup · August 2014

Bookshelves said:

[edited to chop quote tree] Weirdly enough, I kind of disagree with the bolded. I think for a first or even second offense, sure, treatment is preferable.

But the sad truth is, so many treatment centers just don't work long term for addicts. They pump their patients full of even more drugs (sleeping pills, anti anxiety meds, benzos, etc) and only keep them for 28 days. It takes way longer than 28 days to rehabilitate someone, and usually those people return right back to their same situation, surrounded by the same people and the same things. This is also really sad, but in my experience, many treatment centers (especially outpatient) are just vehicles for addicts to meet each other and score new connections.

Maybe I'm cynical, but that's just been my personal experience.

Sometimes, jail is the rock bottom people need to WANT to seek help on their own. Sometimes jail is the only way to keep those people safe from themselves.
I see what you're saying (and appreciate your personal perspective). It just seems like there really needs to be a happy medium, though. Locally, there are so few resources for drug addicts, mostly out-patient, and (as you noted) the few in-patient are too short-term. I just wish as much emphasis was put on alternative solutions as incarceration. Yes, jail can be the catalyst someone needs, but it also in many, many cases is just a temporary bandage on the open wound.

I absolutely agree. If there were more options - GOOD options - for addicts rather than jail time, I'd obviously prefer that people get help.

I think it ties back into the lack of mental health resources this country has. There isn't enough awareness, education, or funding. Private rehab centers can cost 20K for a 28 day stay, and many insurance companies only cover a tiny bit of that cost. State funded rehabs/detox centers don't have the money or ability to provide long term treatment - so many people do the revolving door detox thing, which solves nothing.

I wish I had an answer, but I don't. It just sucks. So many people fall through the cracks and never end up getting the help they need.

hopefuldog · August 2014

Bookshelves said:

elf828 said:
@MamaAllison‌ I hate having my hands held hostage, and I feel awk making conversation with the manicurist, and then I eff up the paint in like 2 days. I'll take a pedi any day though.
I don't really like either. Or massages. Don't touch me. X_X

What?!
I kinda want to flame you for this!

@-)

MamaAllison · August 2014

I guess my opinion was popular, but that actually makes me feel better

I agree that lack if resources for mental health is a huge issue. I think it is deplorable in this day and age that we don't recognize these issues as the cancer they are. Insurance companies will pay for physical ailments, but so often they limit the help we can get for mental issues. I also think the punitive nature of our justice system is not doing anyone any favors. As PPs noted many criminals are under served by the current system, or worse yet, meet fellow criminals in jail that encourage bad behavior once they are out.

I really think that the mom in the story needs help, but maybe even more importantly those children need really effective counseling so that the cycles breaks instead of continues with them,

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

@flightview - I'm sorry your friend is suffering. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Totally off the topic, but when I started to read the "Personal Toys" thread title, my mind immediately went to dildos. I feel like this must be unpopular since no one else mentioned it. I am the lone weirdo?

BB0214 · August 2014

No, you're not.

Codypup · August 2014

boogerbearoriginal said:

@flightview - I'm sorry your friend is suffering. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Totally off the topic, but when I started to read the "Personal Toys" thread title, my mind immediately went to dildos. I feel like this must be unpopular since no one else mentioned it. I am the lone weirdo?

If you add into consideration the rest of the thread title, it would be "Dildos at Daycare. WWF14 do?"

I am so mature.

1linedrawing · August 2014

boogerbearoriginal said:
@flightview - I'm sorry your friend is suffering. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Totally off the topic, but when I started to read the "Personal Toys" thread title, my mind immediately went to dildos. I feel like this must be unpopular since no one else mentioned it. I am the lone weirdo?

No. And I actually opened it like, ooh a good thread! And then read the rest of the title. Meh.

ramfan05 · August 2014

bribbon said:

@greenbunny79‌: =D> My UO is that I hate lurking. The past month or two, I've only had about 5-10 minutes a day to bump (while I'm nursing DD2 goodnight), and it takes me all of that to catch up. I don't want to just jump in and post for fear of looking like an ass. It's always the same thing: a random thread with 100 posts plus a little activity on other threads :-L

@bribbon, I could've written this thread! I'm just so busy at work so the only time I get is when I feed DD before bed (unless DH feeds her) and sometimes a few minutes (like right now) when the kids are asleep and everything else is done, and I, shockingly enough, haven't fallen asleep myself yet!

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