November 2014 Moms

Who else is "AMA"?

Sorry if we have had this conversation in the past... (I might have missed it.)   But I am curious.

How are things going?

Do you feel like you are being treated any differently (by medical professionals or people in general) because you are 35+?

What are some of the perks of being an "older" mom?  Drawbacks?


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  • @moroccojade - ugh geriatric is the worst term!  Thank god it's not used as much anymore.

    I forgot to add that one big drawback is that my parents and DH's parents are older than a lot of grandparents, and I find that with their health issues/age, they're not able to do a lot of stuff that other, younger grandparents could do.  I don't think I could leave our kids with either set of grandparents overnight - they just don't have the energy and ability to keep up with them.  I do regret that my parents and DH's parents aren't younger. 

    I lived in NYC for 16+ years, so all of those friends waited to get married/have kids etc (or chose not to all together).  I now live in Tennessee, and it is more mixed.  I've made friends with mom's in their 30s, most of them early to mid-30s, which is nice, but I see a lot of younger moms around. 
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    @moroccojade - ugh geriatric is the worst term!  Thank god it's not used as much anymore.

    I forgot to add that one big drawback is that my parents and DH's parents are older than a lot of grandparents, and I find that with their health issues/age, they're not able to do a lot of stuff that other, younger grandparents could do.  I don't think I could leave our kids with either set of grandparents overnight - they just don't have the energy and ability to keep up with them.  I do regret that my parents and DH's parents aren't younger. 

    I lived in NYC for 16+ years, so all of those friends waited to get married/have kids etc (or chose not to all together).  I now live in Tennessee, and it is more mixed.  I've made friends with mom's in their 30s, most of them early to mid-30s, which is nice, but I see a lot of younger moms around. 
    I am sure you wouldn't trade your years in New York for anything. 

    My daughter gets to enjoy young grandparents.  My mom just turned 60.  Dad is 64.  We have no idea how old my MIL is, but I am guessing mid 50s.   FIL practically doesn't even exist in our lives.  He is a mythical beast living somewhere in Paris. 

    Although as the daughter of young parents, I wish they would have waited a good five (or more) years.  My parents weren't ready to be married let alone have kids.  (They actually separated for 4 years when I was 2.)   But in the end, they were meant to be together.  It's just too bad I got dragged on their roller coaster ride for half a decade!
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  • JustJainey  Your poor husband!

    There are quite a few dads in their 50s in my daughter's school.  And they are amazing dads.  (And, erm, handsome and affluent! lol.)

    And I agree.. I think 20 year old pregnant women are just as tired as we are.  zzzzzzzzzz
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  • This LO will have only one grandparent, DH's mother who is 81. However, he has four sisters, some of whom are already grandmothers and they seem keen to include this LO into the mix.


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  • I'm technically AMA since I'll be 35 for 2 whole months when I deliver. The only difference between this pregnancy and my one with DD (when I was 32) is that I was referred for the Harmony test and had to meet with a genetic councillor. It was interesting, but ultimately a waste of time since no one on either side has genetic defects that would affect the baby at birth.

    I personally love being an older mom. I was able to earn my PhD and decide on my career path before having to worry about how kids would fit in. I also lived on my own for 8 years in Baltimore, New Haven, and in NorCal. And I totally agree with @moroccojade that everyone should live alone for a time, just to prove to yourself that you can!

    DD and Artoo still have fairly young grandparents, since both mine and H's had kids when they were young so I'm not worried about that. I do sometimes think about how I'll be an older grandparent, but I plan on living like my grandparents (3 of whom are still alive) and be active well into my 80s.

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  • AMA here too! I am 38 and will be 39 before this baby is born. I also have a 19 month old who was born when I was 37. I have actually read somewhere that babies born to "older" moms tend to be healthier, apart from any potential genetic problems like downs. I have no idea if there is any truth to this or not, but the reasoning I read was that older moms tend to have healthier lifestyles before getting pregnant. For me, this is certainly true. When I was in my 20's, I still went out a lot, I probably didn't eat as healthy and I definitely didn't exercise as much. I haven't had any problems with either pregnancy, apart from a partial placenta previa, which is now resolved. My doctors don't treat me any differently than their younger patients, and often forget that I am as old as I am until they look at my chart. Then they remember that they are supposed to offer me the extra genetic testing and what not. I think the only downside is what others have mentioned about possibly being an old grandma someday. Also, I know we could be limited to two babies. At this moment, I don't mind if we are done after this one, but I don't know if I will always feel that way, and I know DH would like a third. But, on the plus side, I have gotten to do a lot of things in life that I wouldn't have been able to do if I had kids when I was younger. I got to have my career, travel around the world, live on my own, etc. I don't feel like I am missing out on anything I really wanted to do. I think the one other benefit of being an older mom is that I am more relaxed than I would have been when I was younger. I have watched friends and family go through baby and toddlerhood and learned a lot from them. In other words, I had a lot better idea of what to expect going into all of this. I feel like I am a better mom because of it.
  • I just turned 36 - my OB said there's really nothing magical about the age 35 but they have to have a cutoff somewhere. I liked being able to get the additional screening and like PPs definitely enjoyed my 20s and 30s! Would I have liked to be married and done this in a more traditional way when I was younger? Maybe, but have to believe everything happens for a reason!
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  • I'm right at the cut off as well, just turned 35 three months ago. My MFM just shrugged and said a line had to be drawn somewhere, no big deal. Nothing more has been said regarding my age since, and I don't feel that I've been treated any differently.
    I agree with PP with both benefits (better/ healthier lifestyle, goals met/ school completed/ career established/ travel, financial stability, etc.) and drawbacks.
    The timing just worked for us. We actually married a little later than most, and really had no intention of making babies six years ago. Over the last year or two we started dancing around the notion of a family, fearing we may regret not trying when before we knew it, it would be too late. And voilà, the first time we decided to take a chance, now or never, to see if it was meant to be... yup! She's due on our anniversary :)
    Just thought I'd throw that in there so I could share a little more than "I agree"
  • I read AMA as "Against Medical Advice"  :\">  I am not there yet; I'm 34, DH is 42.  If we decide to have a 2nd child after this one, then I'll be in the "Advanced Maternal Age" boat.  It's really interesting reading all of your thoughts/observations.  I think the babies of "older" mommies are lucky to be getting such wise women with lots of life experience.  Like one PP, I am glad I didn't have my first child in my 20s because it would have been with my ex-husband.  I'm grateful every day to be having this child with my DDWH (that's dear, dear, wonderful husband!)
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  • Not AMA here, & I don't mean this to sound disrespectful, but I'm glad to see AMA moms speaking so highly for the most part about their experiences! Where I'm from it's very uncommon. I actually work with a girl that just turned 29 and everyone here was honestly very rude to her about how she needed to get her tubes tied this time bc she would be 30 soon and that's WAY too old to be having kids. Clearly...it's not, but that's the culture I'm around. I'm 26 & DH is 34 & being raised this way, I'm nervous about having another kid in the future for fear that I'll be "too old" BUT...I obviously see that's not the case at all. Thanks :)

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    Heisenberg  tbh, unfortunately, around here, if you don't have a couple kids by the time you're 25...there's something wrong and people hound you about it. My mom had me when she was 20 so I always assumed that's when I would have my first baby. Given that thought process, and the environment around here, when it turned out I was 26 before having my first baby I felt so old & like people were going to judge me. People are already asking me if I'm going to have another one since I'll likely wait a few years and be older by then :|

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  • I actually think I've influenced a couple of women at my work to start thinking about having a baby sooner rather than later, knowing the fertility challenges I've encountered waiting until my 40's. (They are both in their early 30's)


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  • AMA here too! I'm 41 and will be 42 when I have LO.  I haven't been treated any different with my new OB.  (I changed offices at 19 weeks because of a pure dislike of where I was orig going).  My age hasn't really come up.  Only my first visit there.  The other place did suggest to do genetic testing and to see a counselor and that prob towards the end they would see me more.  I left before any of that happened and when my new OB got my NT results back I guess felt that with our backgrounds and the results that I didn't need the testing.  I think they also forget my age cuz I really don't look it lol.
    The only drawback that I see is I feel guilty how old my DH and I will be as LO gets older.  I hope I'm still "young" enough to do things with him/her when they are older. My parents had me when they were 25 so that could be playing a factor with my emotion too.  I also wish my parents and FIL were a little younger as well.  My parents are 67 now and FIL will be 70.  Also all my friends kids are age's 3 and older cuz we are all the same age but they all got married and had kids way before me.  I wish one or two were going to be a little closer in age.  They are all excited though.  They've been waiting for a long time lol.
    Perk wise is we got to do a lot of things we prob wouldn't have been able to.  We were together for 8 years and come Oct married for 5.  I was 37 when we got married so no matter what I would have been an AMA.  We wanted some time for ourselves and then started trying after 2 yrs.  That's when we realized we had an issue.  If we didn't wait we would have never had the funds or DH's great insurance to help us with all the infertility treatments.  So I think that is my biggest perk cuz I prob wouldn't be here right now with this glorious bump.
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  • Sorry if we have had this conversation in the past... (I might have missed it.)   But I am curious.

    How are things going?

    Do you feel like you are being treated any differently (by medical professionals or people in general) because you are 35+?

    What are some of the perks of being an "older" mom?  Drawbacks?


    35 here. FTM and having a pretty rough pregnancy. I'm not chalking it up to age though. Just luck. I still have daily morning sickness and have now started to swell pretty bad, and it's starting to hurt to walk. I miss my ankles!

    I don't think I've been treated too differently. I like to think of the extras as perks and it allows me to see and hear baby more often. We had Verifi done at 12 weeks and a level 2 at 20 because my SIL has spina bifida and they wanted to rule it out for us. I live in a large city where there are lots of moms my age, so my OB practice doesn't seem to make too big a deal.

    As for the perks of being an older mom, I'd have to say being established in my career will definitely help. I'm financially at a point that having a baby now won't effect my finances or long term retirement goals. It's something I couldn't say in my twenties. I definitely would have made it work then, but it's just easier now. Plus most of my friends are having babies now, too. So I'll be surrounded by "older" moms going through the same thing.
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  • I'm 39 and this is my first.  I haven't been treated any differently and in fact I feel pretty good.  I was concerned going into my First Trimester screen but when the results came back and the doctors were happy with them, no one mentioned any further testing.  

    Sometimes I think about how old I will be when he graduates, etc but it just drives me to take really good care of myself! I didn't get married until I was 33 and then I wanted to have a few years of just DH and I.  Plus, I was finishing up going to grad school part-time while working full-time and now he has 1 year left of the same.  I have friends who started early, some with small children and others who are new mothers as well.  My husband is 9 1/2 years younger and comes from a town where people tend to get married and have children earlier so a lot of his friends already have kids and some are now on kid #2.

    For me a perk is that I am REALLY ready now for kids.  For years I didn;t know if I wanted them or not, but the timing feels right for me.  so far no draw backs :) 
  • AMA  here - I just turned 35 in June and our GC will be 41 by the time she delivers. It has put all KINDS of extra scans on our plate. We don't mind it , but our GC is getting kind of annoyed I think. 

    I am kind of sensitive about being an older mother, but I will become a tenured professor before our child is 2, so that is cool.


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  • Sign me up for the AMA train I guess... I will be 36 when this baby arrives.  Was 34 when DS was born.  My midwives haven't mentioned my age once, or offered additional screening or anything, I think they are also of the philosophy that your health matters more than your age.

    I think the biggest perk of having kids a little later, at least for me, is that I went to university, did some travelling, got established in a career and when it came time to decide if I wanted to be a SAHM or go back to work, it was a no-brainer for me to stay home.  I didn't enjoy the job I had or the profession I was in, and I love staying at home with DS.  If I hadn't had all that time up into my 30s to discover that I didn't enjoy what I was doing, I imagine there would have been a lot more "what if's" and regret.
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  •  I'm 43.
     This is my 6th child. My other dc are 21-10 (11 tomorrow) years old. Been married for 19 years, and a few years ago decided we wanted 'just one more'!

     Started trying in JAN 2013 but 2 m/c's took up that year : ((( 

     I have a good ob and midwife who do NOT treat me as though I am a fossil. In general I am blessed with good health and don't really have the middle-age issues that can up the risk in pregnancy. I did opt for the Mat121 and NT scan, but we are commiited to the pregnancy regardless-results were awesome though. My ob's attitude is , yes I am high risk on paper but in reality, with my history of healthy pregnancies and natural deliveries, and healhty lifestyle, she feels I"m as low high-risk as you get.

     It is weird, my oldest ds is the age I was when he was born. And by the time this baby is old enough to remember much, half these kids will probably be out on their own. She'll be like an only child at some point.

     So I'll probably be a younger grandma to my olders' kids at some point in the next several years potentially, but a really old grandma to this baby's babies!
  • I actually think I've influenced a couple of women at my work to start thinking about having a baby sooner rather than later, knowing the fertility challenges I've encountered waiting until my 40's. (They are both in their early 30's)
    Fair enough...

    As soon as I turned 30 my doctor asked me....  "So, when are you planning to TTC?"   I asked, "Huh, really?"    She then said she knew I wanted kids and she said it would be better to find out where we stand fertility-wise while I am in my early 30s, rather than late 30s or 40s.  So many couples end up so disappointed.

    I told this story to a couple of my friends and they were MAD asking "how dare she?".  But TBH, I was grateful.  It showed she cared about my desires and wanted to help me meet my goals with as little heartbreak as possible. 

    Some women get lucky well into their 40s.  Many do not.  Hell, many 20 year olds struggle.   Fertility is a funny thing.
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  • I'll be 36 when I deliver. I was 34 with DD. I haven't been treated any differently. The extra testing was offered with both and we passed with both. I am a bit more tired this pregnancy but I'm chasing an almost 2 year old around all day.
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  • I actually think I've influenced a couple of women at my work to start thinking about having a baby sooner rather than later, knowing the fertility challenges I've encountered waiting until my 40's. (They are both in their early 30's)
    Fair enough...

    As soon as I turned 30 my doctor asked me....  "So, when are you planning to TTC?"   I asked, "Huh, really?"    She then said she knew I wanted kids and she said it would be better to find out where we stand fertility-wise while I am in my early 30s, rather than late 30s or 40s.  So many couples end up so disappointed.

    I told this story to a couple of my friends and they were MAD asking "how dare she?".  But TBH, I was grateful.  It showed she cared about my desires and wanted to help me meet my goals with as little heartbreak as possible. 

    Some women get lucky well into their 40s.  Many do not.  Hell, many 20 year olds struggle.   Fertility is a funny thing.

    I absolutely agree with you that fertility is a strange thing and not entirely dependent upon age.  It seemed to me that many of the couples at the fertility clinic we attended were quite young (to my eye anyway) and so there simply are no guarantees. 

    When we talked to the fertility social worker, she specificially inquired about our ages and where we were at with that.  For both myself and DH, we experienced the unexpected death of a parent at a young age.  DH's father was 33 when he was killed in a car accident and my father died from cancer at age 39.  I think it makes us both aware that life is fragile and does not necessarily follow norms.  We have to be grateful for what we have now and enjoy, share all of each day with this LO, not expecting that there will always be another year or time to do it in. 


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  • I'm 38 and will turn 39 in January. I really don't feel that old. I think geography is a big part of it. I'm originally from the Midwest so I know what that mindset is about (my grandma was already a grandma when she was my age!). But I moved to the NYC area in 2000. Most of friends live in the city and are in their mid 30s and still single. Some are even older. Lots of women here have babies after 35--it's almost the norm. Not that it's easy for all of us to get pregnant after 35...
    Other than prescribing a few extra tests (NT scan) and offering Harmony, my OB doesn't treat me any differently.
    Perks? When I was 30 I quit my job, moved to Spain and went to graduate school. That was an amazing experience. I have lots of good memories from living in a fun neighborhood in Brooklyn too, but it would have been much more expensive and difficult with kids. And I've had the time to pursue lots of different hobbies.
    Drawbacks? I just worry a bit more about the pregnancy because of my age. I probably worry more than my Ob. The energy might be an issue too. 

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  • I will be 35 on Tuesday. I don't feel particularly different from my last pregnancy, but I have gotten several "considering your age..." comments from various medical professionals. 

    DH and I decided last night (with some input from my therapist yesterday) that after this baby we are done having kids. That was a huge step for me and it lightens my load a little. I just feel that having another as I approach 40 would just be too exhausting. The more I think about it, the more it just feels "right" to be done.  
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  • That was actually one of my only questions at my first appt. I'll be 35 at delivery. I was pleased that I would considered AMA be since that meant insurance-covered genetic testing which I was 100% on board with and would have done regardless. Overall, my doctors have not treated me any differently but I also live close to NYC where there are a lot of older mothers. I'm much more financially stable now so it seems like a better time and my career is set up already. 
  • I just turned 37, so I am technically AMA, but my doctor is not treating me any differently than in my two prior pregnancies. 

    The drawback I see to being older (though I don't think of myself as that old) is that I am so tired all the time and the pregnancy aches and pains seem worse now than when I had my first at 28.  The benefit is that we are more financially secure than when we had our first and I am more advanced in my career than when I had my second, so I have some more flexibility at work.
  • I'm 37 but high risk for reasons beyond my age so not sure how differently I am being treated because of my age. I know I was offered more testing options that my insurance doesn't cover for under 35. Being older is awesome that I have my shit together and we are ready for children and are financially stable and take take extended leaves on birth. Draw back is I am tooooooooo tired! Lol
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  • I actually think I've influenced a couple of women at my work to start thinking about having a baby sooner rather than later, knowing the fertility challenges I've encountered waiting until my 40's. (They are both in their early 30's)
    Fair enough...

    As soon as I turned 30 my doctor asked me....  "So, when are you planning to TTC?"   I asked, "Huh, really?"    She then said she knew I wanted kids and she said it would be better to find out where we stand fertility-wise while I am in my early 30s, rather than late 30s or 40s.  So many couples end up so disappointed.

    I told this story to a couple of my friends and they were MAD asking "how dare she?".  But TBH, I was grateful.  It showed she cared about my desires and wanted to help me meet my goals with as little heartbreak as possible. 

    Some women get lucky well into their 40s.  Many do not.  Hell, many 20 year olds struggle.   Fertility is a funny thing.

    I absolutely agree with you that fertility is a strange thing and not entirely dependent upon age. 

    You're right - in a way - age is just a number for some.  Different people age at different rates biologically.  I posted this on the AMA board a while back, but it's a study that suggests those women who can get pregnant later in life (closer to 40), have higher life expectancy (many into the 90's - of course you have to remove other factors that would cut life expectancy short like lifestyle, etc..)  It's not that having a child later creates longevity, just that if you're able to conceive naturally later, it is more an indication of how you're aging biologically.  Makes sense. 

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-06/bumc-rli062414.php

     
  • I'm AMA at 35 and a FTM as well. My OB has been great about it and tends to forget that I'm AMA. The fetals diagnostics group at my hospital recommended genetic counseling and the Harmony test and his office had to submit the paperwork for the insurance to approve it, but he was surprised that I opted for it. He's the one that figured out I had endometriosis after 2 years of TTC and 2 unsuccessful IUIs with an RE. He also performed my lap and put me on Lupron for six months, which totally worked so I think he takes a lot of pride in helping to get me pregnant naturally. 

    My insurance has been a little bit weird about it, assigning a nurse to me that calls every two weeks to check up. 
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