Do you believe in Organic?

ShePersisted · August 2014

I've been researching if investing in organic stuff to start baby off on solids is worthwhile. I'd love to hear what f14 thinks.

boogerbearoriginal · August 2014

I voted silent snowflake because I do get some produce organic, not all but we don't do purees at all.

Meghan14 · August 2014

I voted "will do regular produce, but only organic packaged". However, I'll use organic produce sometimes like if it looks great, if it's on sale, just like when I shop for my own food.

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selahvey · August 2014

I've tried both so far. Bought a sweet potato (not organic) at the farmers market, cooked and pureed. Also bought some organic applesauce in a jar. I figure We'll try foods for the first time in baby-food-in-a-jar form, and if he likes it, I would like to do homemade as much as I can. I try to buy local (farmer's market) more than organic, but will buy if its at a good price.

inluv4life2 · August 2014

golfergirl08 said:

I said organic homemade purees only but I am not against using store bought. And I am not against using non organic. I would just prefer organic. I am lucky to live in a place where we have a great variety and selection of organic produce.

This exactly.

djtippietoes · August 2014

I voted regular produce and organic packaged food but I intend to buy organic produce when it's available.

ShePersisted · August 2014

Those that chose organic fresh produce only, can you share why you chose that?

Flyingtoast · August 2014

Jessasaurus2008 said:

WildFlower26 said:
I buy local over organic. It also depends on the food item. I try to buy organic when purchasing "the dirty dozen."
This and for the record, I voted will use regular produce because that's what i usually buy for us. I do try to buy organic with the dirty dozen, but it's not always in the budget. I also don't have an issue whatsoever with packaged food and will probably buy that for things like traveling or convenience.

Edit: spelling

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inluv4life2 · August 2014

So, DH is a science teacher and besides the pesticide issue which creeps me out we wanted to know if organic tastes any better since studies show that nutritional value is the same in organic vs non.

I gave him various fruit and veggie samples and he tasted them (with eyes closed since organic stuff often looks ugly). Time after time he chose the organic variety as having better flavor. We did a smaller version for me and I also liked the organic fruits and veggies better. These were all things you can and normally do eat raw. We are nerds.

We were surprised that we could taste a noticible difference but we did. He was a huge skeptic because cheap.

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ShePersisted · August 2014

I have alway very strongly noticed taste difference in meat especially organic farm raised (read humanely) raised chicken vs the other varieties. I think hands down organic meat tastes better.

Nutritionally I think the whole raised without antibiotics matter but I think real deal goes beyond that. As for vegetables and fruit @WildFlower26‌ I'm not sure if just because they look different there is considerable difference in nutritional value long term. There have been many studies that have shown there is no long term nutritional benefit to organic. I'm not talking about taste here but just nutrition.

iwubrory · August 2014

Non organic packaged baby food up in here.

Flyingtoast · August 2014

Our property is organic without the crazy certification. Our feeds are grown and processed 'local' (w/in 75 miles). We deworm our animals using 'hippie' methods, but our testing results are always way above average (that's a good thing, not bad). Mostly we are organic so we don't have to worry about the animals getting into a pasture that was just sprayed, or if there will be reactions to different chemicals. It's more expensive, but in the long run it's easier and more sustainable. I also love being able to go pick a berry and not having to about washing it.

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Flyingtoast · August 2014

@broccolisgirl‌ Only if you help in the garden too.

sdlaura · August 2014

In addition to keeping pesticides and fertilizers out of my own food, I purchase organic because I want to keep those things out of our oceans, water supply, etc., as much as I can.

karich · August 2014

I do my very best to buy organic when it comes to the dirty dozen. Sometimes, depending on availability, it's just not possible.
We have a great local farm that sells their produce. It is "organic" but since they are so small, it's too cost-prohibitive to get certified. I shop there weekly during the summer months.

I WILL NOT buy meat that's conventionally raised. I really believe that the use of antibiotics in our livestock is going to kill us all someday. I think it is one of the main reasons multi-drug resistant organisms exist. Also: the hormones. Maybe I'm making it up, but I feel like kids are going through puberty at a much younger age than we did. Maybe there were a few "well-endowed" girls in school, but nothing like today. Go to the mall and look around....these girls look like women!!

Tl/dr: we already buy organic food so I'll continue to do that and feed LO what we eat.

Lemon81 · August 2014

We do a mix of prepackaged when it is convenient and home-grown food while it is available. Our homegrown is organic, but not certified because it is too expensive to be certified. Produce bought at the grocery store is a mix of organic and non-organic (but we grow as much as we can). To speak of taste, you can definitely tell a difference between what is grown at a smallish farm and grocery store mega-farm produce. So much more flavor in what is homegrown or purchased from a farmers' market. That also goes for meat and eggs too.

ShePersisted · August 2014

golfergirl08 said:
To those who don't think anything is organic unless you grow it yourself... can you explain this? If the farmers are following the guidelines and have become certified, then I am unsure why they couldn't be classified as organic. Do you think the farmers are lying about how they grew their produce? I hope that doesn't come across as snarky, it isn't intended to be.

FWIW, all the term "organic" actually means, in chemistry terms, is carbon-based. I assume that is why organic farmers cannot use synthetic pesticides, since those are inorganic. We, as humans, are organic, yo!

No expert here but I think it may be because the definition of organic is really wide? For instance, I was looking to buy an organic mattress for the crib. Looked up details of a soy bean based foam mattress and realized it's only part of the materials and not 100% organic. Also was reading an article on coconut water industry and how they call it organic but it's not the same as drinking organic coconut water as they convert it into powder and make it into a concentrate hence killing all the nutrients.

sdlaura · August 2014

There are very specific guidelines for organic food, but not for non-food products. So the use of the term 'organic' doesn't mean much for mattresses, but it does for food.

RondackHiker · August 2014

I can't speak for @innanni‌, but this is an argument I've heard before:

If we all only ate organic, then we'd all starve. Organic farms do not produce enough food to feed the world's population.

Organic food also costs more and so it's yet another way the poor don't get to eat the "healthiest" food out there. For me personally, it really bugs me that people have to make crap nutritional choices because that's what they can afford.

Another point is that organic farmers/ farms often include more "second rate" food in their shipments than traditional farmers. You'll accept a spotted and bumpy tomato from an organic farm because they just look that way, but if that tomato was in the other spot, no one would buy it. Non organic farmers throw out CRAPLOADS of imperfect food because stores don't want it because people won't buy it. They'll buy a bumpy organic fruit but won't do the same for non-organic.

sdlaura · August 2014

RondackHiker said:

I can't speak for @innanni‌, but this is an argument I've heard before: If we all only ate organic, then we'd all starve. Organic farms do not produce enough food to feed the world's population. Organic food also costs more and so it's yet another way the poor don't get to eat the "healthiest" food out there. For me personally, it really bugs me that people have to make crap nutritional choices because that's what they can afford. Another point is that organic farmers/ farms often include more "second rate" food in their shipments than traditional farmers. You'll accept a spotted and bumpy tomato from an organic farm because they just look that way, but if that tomato was in the other spot, no one would buy it. Non organic farmers throw out CRAPLOADS of imperfect food because stores don't want it because people won't buy it. They'll buy a bumpy organic fruit but won't do the same for non-organic.

@rondackhiker, ITA that it bugs me that people who can't afford organic don't get the healthiest food. But I can't see how that would be a reason not to buy organic for your family if you can afford it (assuming you do think it's healthier).

ShePersisted · August 2014

It's interesting that the poll is in favor of regular non- organic baby food. Majority think it makes no difference.

keags5496 · August 2014

Hg45 said:
It's interesting that the poll is in favor of regular non- organic baby food. Majority think it makes no difference.

I wouldn't read into it that most think it doesn't make a difference. Like Rondack mentioned, often organic is cost prohibitive. I buy if I can but often I can't.

ShePersisted · August 2014

keags5496 said:

Hg45 said:
It's interesting that the poll is in favor of regular non- organic baby food. Majority think it makes no difference.
I wouldn't read into it that most think it doesn't make a difference. Like Rondack mentioned, often organic is cost prohibitive. I buy if I can but often I can't.

Good point

Flyingtoast · August 2014

I brought topic up with some mom friends. One mom pointed out that she can not get organic anything for her baby because it was not on the approved list for govt assistance. I looked into the selection process for what is approved before and mostly it was big company lobbing. It's why name brand tree top is approved for apple juice, but it's comeptator is not approved (even though it have a higher percentage of apple juice and less sugar).

I was at the local farmers market today and I did notice that most of the 'crunchy' farmers all had their WIC approved signs up. Crunchy farmers to me are the smaller operations that care about what they are doing, and how it impacts the environment. It isn't always organic, but it's not big company gmo and chemical everything either.

p2k2c4bk2p2 · August 2014

We try to limit our chemical exposure. We buy organic when we can especially when it comes to the dirty dozen. The same applies to our kids.

We don't use a lot of purées but the occasional squeeze pouch sure comes in handy!

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SJSLA · August 2014

p2k2c4bp2k2 said:

We try to limit our chemical exposure. We buy organic when we can especially when it comes to the dirty dozen. The same applies to our kids. We don't use a lot of purées but the occasional squeeze pouch sure comes in handy!

This. I will always try to buy organic produce/grass fed/non GMO's/no preservatives if there is the option. Same goes for the occasional squeeze pouch of puree.

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