Success after IF

*davezwife*

You're a real piece of work.  And by piece of work I mean giant.hateful.b*tch.

Your last comment to Tarah was insanely out of line, even for you.

That's all.

Hannah

Re: *davezwife*

  • ::;davez tries to type through mittens:::

    Uumm.. did you even read her bullchit? Her words. Not mine.

    I'm not one to back down, but I'm just not in the mood for this crap tonite. I have good friends on the way, good champagne chillin''... and  a happy life.

    happy new year.

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  • I hate to get in the middle of this, but I just have to say..

    "I find it disheartening that you would want to make mockery of someone else's journey, when you have never been faced with the decisions that my H and I are faced with. And I can probably guarantee that you will never be faced with this decision since we are all reminded that you just had sex to get pregnant with Ava."

    This was a pretty harsh comment by Tarah, I don't think she was making a mokery, she was just thinking out loud about the moral ramafications of this situation.  And I can understand how Tracie would get a bit defensive or make a comment back.  Just because some of us get pg on a break cycle doesn't mean we dont' know the heartbreak of months/years of IF and m/c's before that.  One of the great things about this board is that we welcome all people who suffer from IF no matter how big or small, if we start compairing "my IF/my journey is tougher than yours" we head down a slippery slope that will take us somewhere pretty ugly.

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  • Amen!  I really love this board because it is always so positive and supportive. I think we all know how horrible it is to deal with IF and any comments dealing with someone's fertility (or lack thereof) is extremely hurtful.  Be glad that we made it to this board and embrace the other women who have made it too.  Wave the white flag.  Fight over
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    I hate to get in the middle of this, but I just have to say..

    "I find it disheartening that you would want to make mockery of someone else's journey, when you have never been faced with the decisions that my H and I are faced with. And I can probably guarantee that you will never be faced with this decision since we are all reminded that you just had sex to get pregnant with Ava."

    This was a pretty harsh comment by Tarah, I don't think she was making a mokery, she was just thinking out loud about the moral ramafications of this situation.  And I can understand how Tracie would get a bit defensive or make a comment back.  Just because some of us get pg on a break cycle doesn't mean we dont' know the heartbreak of months/years of IF and m/c's before that.  One of the great things about this board is that we welcome all people who suffer from IF no matter how big or small, if we start compairing "my IF/my journey is tougher than yours" we head down a slippery slope that will take us somewhere pretty ugly.

    None of it is anymore harsh than Tracie's thinly veiled dig at Tarah's decision to move forward with treatments that her highness doesn't approve of.  And her suggesting that people shouldn't be allowed (or that it is unethical) to get pregnant if there's a high risk of having a baby that is not genetically perfect.  

    This is a situation that Tracie won't ever have to deal with - which makes it all the more disgusting that she pretended to be interested just to take another stab at Tarah.

    Tarah had every right to defend herself - and she didn't say a d@mn thing that isn't true.  And obviously, Tracie is also entitled to whatever rebuttal she so chooses.

    That being said - it's a public message board.  She put it out there for people to see, I'm just callin' them like I see them.

     

  • OK, let me get right to the point and then be done:

    1. Hannah  - You owe me an apology. You didn't even read your friend's post, you just lashed out at me. SHE started her post with rude comments. SHE diminished my fertility struggles, by insinuating all I had to do to get a baby was have sex. Like the others said, we all have our mountains, and if we start fighting about who's is bigger, we'll be here all day. You get everyone all riled up, and the whole board thinks I'm mud, when it was TV's comments and your lashing that created the drama. ALL I DID WAS ASK for people to tell me why someone would choose the road they did/have. Sure, everyone knew I was talking about TV, but I remained objective.

    2. This whole "fight" stems from her stupid rude and MEAN words about me on her blog, months ago. Not only is she the biggest (pun intended) black kettle I've ever 'known" but a really really shady one at that. TV blows smoke up everyone's arse as she kisses it, then turns around and says really mean things about people. Then when I called her on it, she denied it to my "face". IMO, pretty chitty. Post it, you say? Once again, I'm forced between board peace and my own stubborness. Email me, I'll send it to ya.

    3. How do YOU know what struggles I get to deal with? This board knows only what I tell them. I've delt with my share of decisions when it comes to having children. Let me get you my shoes, you can walk a mile in them and then make that comment. You had a chance to be really helpful with the subject of genetics and PGD, etc. and you blew it. You did a disservice to yourself and the mountains you face.

    4. Yes, public board. Make whatever comments you want to. I do. But in this case, you made yourself look pretty stupid, calling me out on something she said.

    5. And lastly, to TV: feck off. If the stupid ignore function would work, I'd be so much happier. I have no respect for you what so ever. And if you saw the emails behind the scenes, many others feel the same way. The fact that you constantly post in a forum others wait to "earn" is beyond rude. (to them) I certainly have opinions on your situation, but they're mine, I'll keep them to myself. You life, your decisions, and for Hanna to say I have to approve them is just as stupid as this whole post.

    If you want to continue this drama, I suggest you do it with yourself, or take it to the 3rd tri where they eat this chit with their branflakes. I'm done.

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  • ps -thank you effoo and others that offered support. I appreciate it.
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  • I had hoped you were done last night... but yet here it goes again.

    In response to your neatly organized paragraphs:

    1. Sure don't.  At least, not anymore than you do Tarah. And your delusional if you really think you held on to any objectivity in that original post.  I still don't get why you posed the question to the board in the first place... how can anyone make you understand one persons personal decision? Duh Tracie.... you should have just asked Tarah directly if you really had a burning desire for that knowledge. And you do a fine job of stirring the sh!t yourself you don't need my help to get the bored riled up.

    2.  I didn't ask you to post anything.  And I'm sure whatever she wrote about you stemmed from nowhere... given you are such an angel. I suggest not reading her blog if it bothers you.

    3. Because you talk about it here. All.the.time. I'm sorry if your life is hard Tracie.  But, unless you do secretly have some genetic issue you worry about passing on to your babies and are dealing with having repeated miscairrages as a result this is indeed a struggle you will.never.have to deal with.  Not saying you don't have your own fertility struggles... but what Tarah said (while harsh) is not untrue.  Your initial post is extra hurtful to anyone in this kind of situation given that it is coming from someone who really does only have to worry about how they are gonna get themselves pregnant... not so much about whether you will have your 4th, 5th, 6th, etc loss.  And, again, my apologies if you do belong to this club that tarah, myself, and other posters like mycolony do (and you just have not been forthcoming about it).

    And the oh so sincere question that you asked yesterday about genetics didn't have sh!t to do with PGD.  I would have been happy to share that info with you.  However, you asked a judgemental and insincere question just to take a stab at Tarah.  I seriously doubt if anyone else on the board had posted what she did you would have taken the time out of your day to post about it.

    4.  Ha... I'm hardly the one walking out of this situation looking bad.

    Thank God for that.

     

  • "earn"?  oh davez ... no one has to earn the right to post here.  not sure if thats what you meant.  hopefully not.  anyone who is struggling with IF has more than earned the right to post here - certainly to seek encouragement or advice from those who have been there - and who were lucky enough to beat IF.  SAIF is not a  sorority you have to pledge first - and you don't need 2 lines to get in the door.  although certainly someone who has been pregnant and posted here joyously - and then suffered a loss or losses has already earned those double stripes anyway.  but if i misinterpreted - i apologize. 
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