Opinions on Preseed

aidensmommmie · July 2014

Dh came home with a tube of preseed from the local drug store. I've done some research and have read both positive and negative reviews about the product. I'm curious to see if anyone who has been ttc has used it before and if it has worked. I'm ovulating now and we have used it but I don't want to put my hope on a tube off gel.

ToryKate · July 2014

MH complained that it was too slippery when I used it externally like regular lube. But if I use the little injector and just go to the first line (1g) a few minutes before sex it seems to work much better. He doesn't think it is too slippery and we dont need additional (non sperm friendly) lube. Some people are the opposite though, so experiment and find what works best for you and your H.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

We like it a lot as a lube. You really only need a few drops, or else it's just way the fuck to slippery to actually have sex. It's not going to help get you pregnant, but if you like/need to use lube, it's the best choice while TTC. You'll need to play around to see how much is right for you; start with a little, you can always add more.

mlebates · July 2014

slappalicious said:
If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.

Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

DarcyHermione said:

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

All the time? It's amazing that so many of our ancestresses didn't die of infected vaginas.

Imagine the tombstones, lol.

mlebates · July 2014

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

slappalicious said:
If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.

You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.
You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

Funny how my OBGYN & both REs have neglected to mention this.

IrisPetals · July 2014

BC always made me dry & 1st TTC cycle was not different. So I've been using pre-seed b/c it's sperm friendly. Since starting FertileCM supplement (which I recommend to anyone not producing enough cm) I've started making ewcm right around assumed O, although only in small amounts. So I'll continue to use pre-seed. It's supposed to mimic fertile cm, but that doesn't mean it's going to get you pregnant. Lots of women review it saying "I got pregnant the 1st month I used it" yeah coincidence. No way to say for sure that's what got you pregnant. Also, do not use the directed amount. WAAY too much. Use 1, maybe 2mg. Use the applicators and a tiny bit on the outside. Keep in mind as well, ewcm is regular cm, arousal fluid is different. You can have ewcm but still be dry enough to make it hard for his penis to enter

mlebates · July 2014

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

slappalicious said:
If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.

You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

Funny how my OBGYN & both REs have neglected to mention this.

Unless their degrees included an extensive course on sex like my friend who is a sex therapist, then they wouldn't be aware, or even think to bring it up. I personally never have had extensive conversations with my OB's about how we are doing it.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.
You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

Funny how my OBGYN & both REs have neglected to mention this.
Unless their degrees included an extensive course on sex like my friend who is a sex therapist, then they wouldn't be aware.

I feel pretty confident that (most) medical professionals are fairly well versed on the subject of infection prevention. Thanks though.

mlebates · July 2014

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

beckynsean11 said:

mlebates said:

slappalicious said:
If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.

You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

Funny how my OBGYN & both REs have neglected to mention this.

Unless their degrees included an extensive course on sex like my friend who is a sex therapist, then they wouldn't be aware.

I feel pretty confident that (most) medical professionals are fairly well versed on the subject of infection prevention. Thanks though.

That's ok. I'm just putting the information out there. Do with it what you will.

FitMom3510 · July 2014

It's very very rare if I use lube and I've had lots of sex over the years and my vag remains infection free.

ETA: Words

aidensmommmie · July 2014

Thanks everyone. Those applicators are the pits I tell you. I was just hoping for some extra umph being that we've been trying for quite a while now. I've personally never had to use lube until recently due to medication I'm on but I've never gotten infections from not having any on. That sounds rough

LisaG09 · July 2014

We bought it as soon as we started trying to conceive. We don't always use it but on day four of every day sex, it is helpful especially since I don't produce a lot of fertile CM by myself anyway. Truly it's been a life saver but only as a lube. That's all it is really, a sperm-friendly lubricant. It isn't any more expensive than the average lube so I think it's a good investment either way.

jacqueleen1 · July 2014

I'll started using pre seed last month. We found it worked quite well as a lubricant but only needed to be used sparingly. I didn't use the tube things.

beckynsean11 · July 2014

DarcyHermione said:

CLECyclist said:

DarcyHermione said:

beckynsean11 said:

DarcyHermione said:

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All the time? It's amazing that so many of our ancestresses didn't die of infected vaginas.

Imagine the tombstones, lol.

Here lies "Victoria Rosewood 1858-1899: She should have used lube".

This used to be in Oregon Trail.

I love you.

Ditto.

Wine&Cupcakes · July 2014

I don't doubt that sex can cause some internal trauma, but that is why sometimes you wipe post-sex and there can be a small bit of pinkish discharge. This is pretty common.

Raging vaginal infections from this? Not so much.

myatala · July 2014

Uhhhh I don't know about you guys but if penetration hurts, we stop and reevaluate my readiness. Jesus muffin-buttering Christ. How did our ancestors survive?! How are we here?! SO MANY QUESTIONS!

EssJayCee · July 2014

It is my understanding from a little bit of Dr Google and a little bit of my RE, that PreSeed is only like EWCM so far as the does-not-render-sperm-immobile qualities go. Other than that, its really just a sperm friendly replacement for arousal fluid, which makes sex easier if you don't have enough arousal fluid or fertile CM of your own, but does not actually help sperm travel like fertile CM.

KatzKiss · July 2014

My only complaint is that it dries up quickly. We always end up having to stop and reapply in the middle of the act.

mlebates · July 2014

Lol how did y'all interpret infections into death?! I'm so confused right now.

mangomimosa · July 2014

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.
You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

Funny how my OBGYN & both REs have neglected to mention this.
Unless their degrees included an extensive course on sex like my friend who is a sex therapist, then they wouldn't be aware.

I feel pretty confident that (most) medical professionals are fairly well versed on the subject of infection prevention. Thanks though.
That's ok. I'm just putting the information out there. Do with it what you will.

Well, I'm a healthcare professional specializing in women's health. Do you think I might be fairly well versed on the subject? Your friend has really twisted things around. While it's true that abrasions sustained during rough/dry sex can lead to a higher risk of transmission of certain infections, this does not mean that lube is required to prevent infection. The vagina is usually perfectly capable of producing enough lubrication to avoid tears and trauma--funny how our bodies just kinda...take care of what we need... Synthetic lube can help out, sure - but is certainly not required. It CAUSES vaginal infections in some women, just by the way it affects the vaginal flora. And spermicidal lubricants cause so much irritation/inflammation that they INCREASE the rate of disease transmission. Lube is certainly not required & if used, should be chosen with care.

Anyway -- just putting the information out there.

mlebates · July 2014

@mangomimosa‌ I'd quote you but the quotes are getting pretty long.

You make complete sense as well. I will now say do what works best for your body.

kristyn831 · July 2014

We're on to something. Lube is why life expectancy has increased over the years.

wells2010 · July 2014

mlebates said:

mlebates said:

If you need lube that won't kill sperm, then it works. Just use it with your fingers and a little bit at a time like you do with regular lube. (The recommended amount in the little injector tubes will make it like a slip-n-slide...)

Don't put your hope on a tube of gel. It's only lube. His sperm is what gets you pregnant. It's only useful if you're dry and need something to help with the friction.
Actually you need lube all the time. His penis can scratch your vaginal canal and cause an infection.

I have sex without lube quite frequently. Never has my vagina gotten infected.
You do always need to use lube, because you can get minute tears (not scratches sorry) in your vaginal walls, and not know it. When inserting anything such as a penis, fingers, or toy, they all have bacteria. Lube is a layer of protection from bacteria entering into those tears. Which if bacteria does enter from not using lube, you can get an infection. Some women have even had to go to the hospital because of it.

lube can actually make you more susceptible to infections. Most brands contain glycerin, which bacteria and yeast love to feed off of. Also, lubes with spermicides may be irritating to the vagina and make you more susceptible to infections, including HIV.

PS... Preseed does not contain glycerin (I'm pretty sure), but most major brands do (astroglide, etc). Obv it doesn't contain spermicide either.

ETA: I am a RN and someone who has worked in public health/HIV outreach programs.

LtColumbo · July 2014

lizzyp9112 · July 2014

LtColumbo said:

I was going to love tit this.... then I shuddered and decided I cannot.

I appreciate you, @LtColumbo.

LtColumbo · July 2014

lizzyp9112 said:

LtColumbo said:

I was going to love tit this.... then I shuddered and decided I cannot.

I appreciate you, @LtColumbo.

I appreciate your appreciation and understand why you don't want to love tit the thorny penis.

lizzyp9112 · July 2014

LtColumbo said:

lizzyp9112 said:

LtColumbo said:

I was going to love tit this.... then I shuddered and decided I cannot.

I appreciate you, @LtColumbo.

I appreciate your appreciation and understand why you don't want to love tit the thorny penis.

Let's hope the chick with Elmer's Glue CM doesn't have to deal with a thorny penis. That would be unfortunate.

Trampslikeus · July 2014

CLECyclist said:

This is the best thing I have seen all day. I couldn't just love tit it because I actually laughed.

As for "always needing lube" LOLWUT? First I've heard of that one. Never used it in my life. Never had a vaginal infection. OB friend texted me back and said "yeah, nope".

Yasm33na · July 2014

I'm using it currently lol I'll let you know how it turns out if you like

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it was suggested to me by a friend who swears by it ... So, we're hoping for the best

Trampslikeus · July 2014

No joke guys, that cactapenis showed up in my dreams last night. I don't remember the context, but it was there.

(Or is it a cocktus?)

mosdub · July 2014

@Yasm33na we are trying it too for the 1st time this month - works nicely as a lube if you don't use too much.

lizzyp9112 · July 2014

Trampslikeus said:
No joke guys, that cactapenis showed up in my dreams last night. I don't remember the context, but it was there.

(Or is it a cocktus?)

Cactapenis made me cackle.

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