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WWYD?

Hi all, I'm not sure where to start. This is a long post, but hear me out. My next door neighbors gave my toddler a toy kitchen today. My husband accepted the gift, I wasn't present at the time. They did not consult either one of us whether it was okay if they gave her such a large gift. They said they saw it and thought of my daughter and bought it for her.

They are from Honduras. They don't have children. The woman doesn't speak English, the man does well enough. They miscarried not long before moving next door. They have been very kind and sweet to me and my family. But I am beginning to feel uncomfortable.

The man comes outside every time we're outside, if home. Every time. He will chitchat with us, but stays focused on my daughter. He has stroked her hair, talks to her, holds her hand, and will squat down to make very direct eye contact when he speaks to her. Once while my husband was at work, I was playing outside with the kids, I was invited in the neighbirs' house. I was asked if I was going back to work or something along those lines, it was suggested that we/my daughter must be bored because he didn't see us outside much (as I had been avoiding him). I said I was always busy and always had something that needed to be done. He suggested maybe he could take my daughter to McDonald's some time to play. I said no and laughed it off politely, thinking it was a language barrier thing until he said. "It'd be good for her, though, you know." I said, "No, we go to parks and playgrounds for that." Later on, when trying to leave to feed my 10m old son, the man suggested leaving my daughter with them, offering to watch her. I said no. The whole visit was odd and my giving the benefit of the doubt was dissolving. The woman even took pictures of the man and my daughter with her phone while we sat on the couch. They are fixated on her. Not in having an adult rapport with me as a neighbor.

I go from trying to be friendly to seeing red flags and then second guessing my gut feeling to keep them away. I would like opinions. Am I over reacting? Is there a cultural difference? Are they harmlessly doting on her after their miscarriage? My defenses are up! I am thinking of returning the gift to them.

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  • Always trust your gut. If something inside of you is telling you to be cautious, then be cautious! Your daughter's safety and well-being is the most important thing. Like PP mentioned, just be cordial and keep denying their requests to be alone with her (cultural or not, I find that really alarming).
  • I'd say do a little research to find out what the cultural/family norm is - they really may just be trying to be neighborly for their family/culture. I would also add that I know some legitimately good people that if they asked me "can I take DD to McD's" I wouldn't hesitate. That said - trust that spidey sense!!!  Something just isn't right and until you figure out just what it is, keep trusting it.  Talk to your DH because guys sometimes just don't get it.  While the kitchen may be big, I've seen some of them that are downright huge but surprisingly reasonably priced (under $40)...  Without knowing their financial situation, keep your spidey sense about you, but also learn to roll with it while remaining firm...
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    NEVER SECOND GUESS YOUR GUT FEELING! IT IS YOUR BEST DEFENSE IN PROTECTING YOUR CHILDREN!

    I would apologize for yelling with caps, but if we were speaking, I would be raising my voice to make sure you hear me.

    READ "PROTECTING THE GIFT" by Gavin de Becker. Since you have two children, I know you have lots of spare time. MAKE TIME TO READ IT.

    Better to be considered rude than to have something happen to either of your children. And I would also return the kitchen.
  • You need to make it clear to them that you are not comfortable with them trying to foster a relationship with your daughter. Return the kitchen. If they ask to watch DD, don't dance around the answer...tell them that you would not feel that it would be appropriate. If they come over and linger to watch her play, tell them that you just want her to have some free play time and say see you later. Don't be wishy washy about it. You need to trust your gut and put an end to it.
  • I appreciate the feedback, everyone. I almost always trust my instincts, but I needed some outside input to weigh in on this because I tend to play devil's advocate.

    Thanks Earlybird725, I looked into Fitzgerald's Tricky People and checklists. Very helpful. You hit the nail on the head.

    Thanks LC122, I hear ya. I'll look into Gavin de Becker.

    So husband and I have been discussing this all day. I've gone from being disturbed to angry to reasonable and back to pissed off about it. We decided to keep the kitchen. After looking it over, I'm pretty sure they bought it used. Next time we see them we're going to remain kind but assertive and set clear boundaries, let them know we appreciate it but why it was inappropriate and it isn't acceptable to give her anymore gifts.

    Ha. Maybe then I'll get them a bottle of wine and write a thank you note like in that other post and be done with this.

    I wish we could put up a fence. I'd love that.
  • FWIW it is fairly cultural. Latin American culture is very much about the community and everyone being involved in raising children, family, friends, neighbors. 

    However, you need to do what you are comfortable with. If they make you uncomfortable then follow your gut. 
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  • I would find it very alarming and very creepy. I find it disturbing anybody fixating on my child. There are enough situations out there when a child was abducted by someone fixating on them. Them being your neighbors and obviously watching your comings and goings would be very uncomfortable to me. I would document everything and return their gift or tell them you would like to pay them for it. No stranger should be giving such gifts to your child. I would also set very specific boundaries - no touching your child,you will not let her go alone with them anywhere etc. if they keep it up after your specific request not to, I would be even more creeped out and would possibly alert the authorities . I would rather be ultra paranoid then take any chance of my child being harmed
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