November 2013 Moms

Who is doing the Ferber method?

Franz is starting to refuse naps and break out of his swaddle, and I started trying the Ferber method today. I feel like a huge jerk listening to him scream, even though I do go in and calm him down every minute or two. It breaks my heart and makes me feel like a horrible mom.

But on the other hand, his sleeping is and always has been crap, and I feel like I've gotten to the point where I either need consistent sleep at night (I haven't had more than 5 consecutive hours of sleep since he was born, and it's usually more like 2 or 3 on average) or I'm going to do something I regret. I really resent him occasionally, and I've noticed it only happens when I'm exhausted and he's refusing sleep. I'm scaring the crap out of myself.

Additionally, I feel like I'd be more excited about being with him all day if I was well rested and had energy.

That's why I decided to start the Ferber method. It's worked so far; he's put himself to sleep twice now, but only after an hour or so of crying (with me going in every few minutes to calm him down). Like I said, it makes me feel like crap. I cried to my husband tonight about it. I feel like I'm letting F down by ignoring him like that.

So tell me. Who's doing the Ferber method? How is it going, and how do you deal with it? Can you tell me I'm not totally ruining my kid? I've read the dangers of crying it out, and it makes me nervous, even though this isn't exactly full-on crying it out. Advice, please!

Re: Who is doing the Ferber method?

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  • @j0509 how did you find this sleep consultant? Did you just search around online? I have been debating calling one just to try and get some advice to get him to fall asleep on his own. Lucas constantly needs to be either fed or rocked to go to sleep and lately he has been waking as soon as you put him down.
  • Just wanted to chime in. I used the Sleep Sense program when N was 5.5 months old, and it worked. It was hard work, and if you use it you will have to listen to LO cry for a little bit (and that was the hardest part for me also) but she STTN. She naps 3x daily. I can actually get stuff done and like you said, the biggest thing is I ENJOY spending time with her now and I enjoy doing our bed time routine every night. Before, I dreaded it. I spent (sometimes) hours getting her to sleep, only to lay her down in her crib and have her wake right up and start screaming. This has changed my life. Good luck!

    ETA: Also, one of the most important things, N is a much happier baby during the day now that she's getting enough sleep and has a routine. 
    I've never heard of this...what is the Sleep Sense Program? Is it a book? Where do I find it?
    I found it online when I was searching for magical ways to get baby to STTN. It is an e-book, but I also got two weeks of videos with it and also 10 more videos of advice from the sleep consultant that made the program. www.sleepsense.net 


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  • sands42 said:

    I haven't slept all night in 3.5 years. Honestly.... You just start to get used to it.

    That wasn't advice sorry- just my input. :)

    ^ this!
  • j0509 said:



    @j0509 how did you find this sleep consultant? Did you just search around online? I have been debating calling one just to try and get some advice to get him to fall asleep on his own. Lucas constantly needs to be either fed or rocked to go to sleep and lately he has been waking as soon as you put him down.

    The lady that owns a local baby store is planning on doing a workshop and i asked for her card as opposed to waiting for the workshop. From my research I think that a lot of them are based on Sleep Sense and they should offer a free 15 minute phone conversation to see if you would benefit and if you feel comfortable for them. Most of them as well offer support and services via Skype and don't necessarily need a face to face consult therefore location wouldn't be an issue.

    Sleep Sense is basically The Sleep Lady Shuffle. It's assisted CIO, you stay in the room with the baby while they fuss and cry and periodically soothe them by speaking to them. You put your chair right next to the crib for the first 5 nights, I think. You continue this process and move your chair further away each handful if nights until you reach a point where just speaking to them from the doorway is enough to calm them.

    I talked to a sleep consultant also, and that's the method they use. We haven't done it and I doubt if we will. If you feel you can afford $250-$500 for their services I would do that, because I would feel better about having someone coach me through it.

    If you don't want to spend that, you can pick up the Sleep Lady Shuffle book for $10-$15.

  • megswen said:

    Franz is starting to refuse naps and break out of his swaddle, and I started trying the Ferber method today. I feel like a huge jerk listening to him scream, even though I do go in and calm him down every minute or two. It breaks my heart and makes me feel like a horrible mom.

    But on the other hand, his sleeping is and always has been crap, and I feel like I've gotten to the point where I either need consistent sleep at night (I haven't had more than 5 consecutive hours of sleep since he was born, and it's usually more like 2 or 3 on average) or I'm going to do something I regret. I really resent him occasionally, and I've noticed it only happens when I'm exhausted and he's refusing sleep. I'm scaring the crap out of myself.

    Additionally, I feel like I'd be more excited about being with him all day if I was well rested and had energy.

    That's why I decided to start the Ferber method. It's worked so far; he's put himself to sleep twice now, but only after an hour or so of crying (with me going in every few minutes to calm him down). Like I said, it makes me feel like crap. I cried to my husband tonight about it. I feel like I'm letting F down by ignoring him like that.

    So tell me. Who's doing the Ferber method? How is it going, and how do you deal with it? Can you tell me I'm not totally ruining my kid? I've read the dangers of crying it out, and it makes me nervous, even though this isn't exactly full-on crying it out. Advice, please!




    What does "I'm going to do something I regret" mean?? Did that not show up as a red flag for anyone else??

    This is why I started the Ferber method. I figured it was better to let him cry than to let my exhaustion get to me. So I leave the room and let him cry until I feel bad for him. That break allows me to cool down and take a breather, and when I go into his room the next time, I'm more calm and loving.

    But I hate that I have to let him cry.

  • I did Ferber with DD when she was about 7 months old but she was already STTN like 12-13 hours straight.  The only reason we did Ferber was because I was pregnant and very nauseous so I wanted her to be able to put herself to sleep rather than having to rock her before bed time and naps.  It worked after only 2 nights and was wonderful.  She barely even cried those first two nights.

    I am debating on DS.  He's about that same age now but he does not STTN and sometimes when he cries, it is sooo powerful and awful...worse than DD's cries.  I know consistency is key and with DD, everything was so scheduled.  But as much as I try to follow a schedule with DS, he just doesn't cooperate.  He definitely does go to sleep on his own sometimes, and when I'm really exhausted I make him CIO but never if he's full out sobbing and it's been more than 20 minutes or so.  But a lot of times I nurse him to sleep and then transfer him to his crib.  Maybe if I always made him put himself to sleep, he'd start STTN..but who knows.  I don't know how I'd do it really since he falls asleep on my boob...It'd be difficult to never allow that and if I woke him up every time he fell asleep nursing, he'd be super fussy..
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  • We ferberized DD at about 6 mos. we went by the book with the intervals of time. It worked in only a few nights. Now she goes down every night on her own. When she wakes up at nigh she puts herself back to sleep. Our household transformed. I agree that it's not for everyone but I suggest if you do do the Ferber method go by the times given.
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    I just wanted to send you some encouragement! We Ferberized and it was one of the hardest things I've done. Here are the two things that got me through:

    1. You are teaching your child a very important tool by allowing them to learn how to fall asleep on their own. Children with good sleep habits have better temperaments and learn things more easily. You are doing what's best for him.

    2. He will not be traumatized. My husband and I were both sleep trained with CIO techniques and we are happy adults with great relationships with our parents. S is actually happier now because he is getting the sleep he needs!

    Just stay consistent and know that it will get better and you are not doing anything wrong or negligent. He's not crying because he's mad at you or in pain or anything like that. He's just tired and learning how to deal with it himself. It will get better soon and you will feel so much better! And wine. I recommend wine. :)
  • I agree with @caishov 100% that if the method of sleep training that you are attempting is making you upset, you may want to look into other options.  I read this post this morning and couldn't get it out my head all day.  I really just wanted to lend some support and say that asking for help is one of the best things you can do regarding the feelings of resentment and the statement you made about not wanting to do something you may regret. 

    Your LO is going to have so many sleep changes in the coming years as well as developmental milestones that will push all of your buttons and exhaust you.  This will not be the last time that you are mentally and physically exhausted by parenthood.  I would strongly suggest talking with someone to see if you can get some coping mechanisms in place now that will help you through all of this. 

    I hope that whatever method you decide to use, that it works for your family and I hope that you consider all the suggestions to talk to someone.  Good luck!
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