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Abortion and crime rates

MaebbMaebb member
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Sorry if anyone doesn't want to see something like this. I am just really bothered by the statement below and wanting to get feedback. This was someone on my BMB, and I am offended by this statement, but I'm not wanting to stir the pot there.

Here is the statement. Note that this is not my opinion, and I am pro choice, but for different reasons than this:

"I'm pro abortion. I wish abortions were free or at least more accessible than they are in my area. The crime rate would probably go down where I live (I know I'll get flamed big time for this)."

The implication that free abortions = a lower crime rate is just offensive. Like it's the people who can't afford abortions who end up having kids who grow up to be criminals, and they'd be better off being aborted? Maybe I am not thinking about it the right way.

Sorry for a heavy topic on a Friday.
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  • BeebopandBuddyBeebopandBuddy member
    I would have to get an understanding of how she thinks these two things relate, because I don't see it any way except how you see it.  It seems like a dumb thing to say, IMO.
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  • MaebbMaebb member
    She didn't offer any explanation, and the thread has now digressed to talking about donuts because everyone is tired of the abortion talk.

    In a way, I want to ask what she means, but in another way, I don't like to argue with people who have views like that because not a lot of good comes out of it.
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  • MaebbMaebb member
    Yeah, there's more about that wording in the PP's in that thread. Some people are saying that no one is "pro-abortion" because just because you think that others should have a choice doesn't mean that you're pro-abortion. But some people see it differently.
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  • CinemaGoddessCinemaGoddess member
    I read it as a racial thing, too.  

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  • littlestjerrylittlestjerry member
    LuckyDad said:
    Freakonomics covered the correlation pretty well. It's not the best reason to be pro choice.

    Was coming in here to mention Freakonomics. I read it a long time ago, but there were stats that showed a correlation between abortions and crime rates. I also know Freakonomics has been criticized on the "correlation is not causation" thing though.



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  • LC122LC122 member
    LovelyRitaMeterMaid said:

    I was thinking it was untrue that most abortions are done on women who are not white.  It doesn't seem to be accurate.



    The numbers seem almost equal to me.  And I think that has been the trend in years past but I could be
    wrong.

    Quote from your link:
    • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.[3]

    Then it's a question of how those numbers compare to the US population.
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    LovelyRitaMeterMaid said:


    LC122 said:

    LovelyRitaMeterMaid said:

    I was thinking it was untrue that most abortions are done on women who are not white.  It doesn't seem to be accurate.



    The numbers seem almost equal to me.  And I think that has been the trend in years past but I could be
    wrong.

    Quote from your link:
    • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.[3]

    Then it's a question of how those numbers compare to the US population.

    It could be that I'm hungover.
     Care to elaborate?  I don't understand what you were trying to say.

    @LovelyRitaMeterMaid‌

    The quote from your link shows the abortion rates by race in the US. So, the issue of whether certain races disproportionately get more or fewer abortions would require a comparison between rates by race and the percentages of each race in the U.S. Population.

    I don't know the current U.S. Population (mobile and don't feel like googling) demographics, but let's say the population of black women was 15%. Then 15% of the population would be having 30% of the abortions.

    Your link also gave information about women relative to the poverty line.
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  • jesuisfatigueejesuisfatiguee member
    I'm an evictionist when it comes to the choice debate, but pro-abortion pisses me off.



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