I am very curious, and since this board is pretty good about respecting everyone, I wanted to see other peoples opinions. I apologize in advance I am going to post and run because I have an event I need to attend shortly.
I am part of a facebook group of moms in my city. There are probably thousands of members. One woman posted today that she was very offended when a lifeguard asked her to nurse her baby from the deck of the pool, as she was currently nursing holding her child in the water. They did not ask her to cover up, they did not ask her to go someplace private. She just needed to be sitting on the deck.
The responders were divided. About half believed this was no big deal and not worth her getting upset about. The other half were planning a "nurse-in" they were so angry.
I am curious what our board thinks.
I lean towards it isn't that big of a deal, but I can't imagine wanting to nurse in a pool with little kids splashing all around me. If I were asked to cover up or leave the deck so I couldn't watch my other kids I would be angry for her. I also don't think I would be crazy about the baby possibly spitting up in the pool after a feeding if I was a swimmer or if my kids were swimming in the area.
Thoughts anyone?
Re: Breastfeeding in a pool
I don't get what the big deal is with moving and being considerate of other people using the pool.
I hope I don't get flamed for this
:-\"
:-SS
BF away in public as far as I'm concerned.. but in a public pool? That's just weird. Go sit somewhere outside where people aren't splashing and trying to play.
Personally, I'd never even consider bf'ing in a pool, public or private! I don't want that water in baby's mouth.
30 dx with PCOS 2010 treating with metformin
DS1 12-29-11 DS2 11-4-14
BFP 10/19/13 missed mc at 5 weeks d&c 11/18/13
BFP 2/16/14 Please stick baby! ! EDD 10/31/14
DX with septate uterus 3/1/14
I think it's fine to nurse in a pool.
If people are concerned about the bodily fluid aspect...they should keep in mind that people pee in the pool constantly. It's not a dangerous bodily fluid by any means.
Plus public pools are nasty and I wouldn't want to my baby eating in a pool. Breast milk or otherwise.
It would have been different if they had asked her to cover up or leave the area.
This! Public pools are disgusting!
Breastmilk is not classified as a harmful bodily fluid by the CDC. Also, kids pee in pools, bleed in pools, etc. - those are classified as dangerous bodily fluids by the CDC.
The logic of telling a breastfeeding mother not to nurse in a pool just isn't there. It's safe, and by law (in most states) the breastfeeding mother is permitted to nurse wherever she and her baby are legally permitted to be present. It should be up to the mother's discretion whether to breastfeed in a pool or not.
...If you want to say no breastmilk in the pool, you'll have to take the breasts out of the pool as well. Lactating breasts leak.
Here are some links to relevant info.:
CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/swimming/protection/breastfeeding-in-pools.html
From one US state:
https://public.health.oregon.gov/healthyenvironments/recreation/poolslodging/documents/infosheetbreastfeedingatpools12062012x.pdf
Canadian Source:
https://www.bcbabyfriendly.ca/HPG9040BreastfeedinginPoolsJan0909.pdf
Married 8/27/2011
BFP #1 9/28/2011 DS born 5/22/2012
BFP #2 4/24/2013 m/c 4/25/2013 at 4w
BFP #3 1/31/2014 DD born 10/14/2014
BFP #4 1/20/2016 m/c 2/12/2014 at 7w2d
BFP #5 8/19/2016 DS2 born 4/29/2017
BFP #6 3/7/2018 EDD 11/18/2018
But I wouldn't get all bothered by someone asking me to move to the deck.
*ETA*
I also wouldn't want to see a baby being bottle fed in the pool either. It's just the concept of not eating/drinking in a public swim space.
Legally, baby can nurse anywhere mom is allowed to BE, so if mom's allowed to be in the pool, baby can nurse there.
Also, as for the sanitation issue, the amount of milk that *could* potentially get into the pool probably rivals the amount of, say, saliva of the swimmers diving underwater or squirting pool water out of their mouths. I highly doubt a nursing pair poses any threat to anybody's health in that pool.
For the record, I would not nurse in a pool. I wouldn't want my baby getting chlorine in his/her mouth. But that's my prerogative.
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
ETA: To situate this in the broader discussion, we shouldn't confuse reckless parenting with breastfeeding. The two might coincide, but when they do, only the recklessness is to blame, not the breastfeeding.
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
Ok, yeah, shitty wording. I know that law trumps all, but what I was trying to get at is that there are certain rules and regulations that apply to everyone if you want to be a patron at an establishment. So like I said before, if there is no eating in the pool, there is no eating in the pool.
I tend to agree that just because something is legal doesnt make it the appropriate action to take. But really, who is the judge of what is the appropriate action?
End of day I certainly hope the moms in that group take a chill pill and let this one slide. Advocating for breast feeding rights is important but I think in this case it is a social, not a legal, line that really would hurt the image more than help for a mothers right to breast feed.
I do see where the posters in this thread are coming from, but IMO it really should be up to the discretion of the mother where she nurses her baby.
I don't know if this is a great analogy, but it came to mind: an establishment can make rules disallowing pets, but cannot make rules disallowing service animals. The law recognizes that the needs of some people are different from the needs of the majority. Babies definitely have different needs from say, a guy with a cheeseburger.
I still think it's bad judgment to nurse in a public pool. I wouldn't do it for the health of my baby. That doesn't mean the lifeguard is allowed to decide.
Married 8/27/2011
BFP #1 9/28/2011 DS born 5/22/2012
BFP #2 4/24/2013 m/c 4/25/2013 at 4w
BFP #3 1/31/2014 DD born 10/14/2014
BFP #4 1/20/2016 m/c 2/12/2014 at 7w2d
BFP #5 8/19/2016 DS2 born 4/29/2017
BFP #6 3/7/2018 EDD 11/18/2018
Oftentimes this sort if nursing is not a 20-minute feeding session, but a quick latch-on here and there for comfort. Not that that makes a difference.
True, most mothers might choose not to breastfeed in the water. They might worry about baby getting splashed (which is a risk of playing in the pool anyway) or about being more exposed than they wish (if you like to wear a cover, that's awful difficult in the water), or they might rather sit down to nurse rather than nurse standing in the water.
Other mothers, however, might decide that part of helping baby become used to or enjoy the pool is allowing them to nurse there. The risk of breastmilk entering the pool can't be the concern, because lactating breasts leak...so if a lactating mother is in the pool, whether nursing or not, milk will enter the water. Indeed, it is a super small quantity of milk entering the water, unlike food or drink in a container that could spill. Whether or not it is "gross" is also up to mother's discretion.
This is a more difficult and charged issue than I expected (and interesting that it became so heated), but I really do strongly feel that it should be up to the individual mother whether or not to nurse in a pool.
I totally don't mind agreeing to disagree on this. Honestly, it seems to me at least to be a silly little thing to be all bothered over.
Still, I'm not that interested in whether or not the the behavior is "gross." Some moms feed their babies in public bathroom stalls. That's gross too, but it's totally sanctioned. (And it's sometimes where they are asked to go. Ironic, right?)
What's more important about the pool incident is whether or not it's allowable--so it really does concern breastfeeding "rights." I put "rights" in quotes because it isn't just a legality issue, it's in our hearts and guts, which is why so many of us feel strongly about it. Including, probably, the lifeguard, and surely the mom. They're the main players here, not the law (yet?)
Anyway, like @Emerald27 said, nursing in a pool is actually NBD. If our society was more relaxed about breastfeeding in general, we wouldn't have so many upsets like this. Nursing would just be normal and invisible. We would no longer be scandalized by seeing women nursing in "new" places.
I've got to jump on the agree-to-disagree train and say farewell to this thread, now. My parents are visiting tonight from out of state, so I have to spend the day making our house look like a real grown-up house, and cooking delicious food! See you in another thread.
All I can add is we had this kid(5-8 years of age) that came to the pool everyday. And everyday he threw up in the pool. He was nicknamed the salad shooter. I wouldn't want to be in that water nursing child! You just don't know what has taken place in the water and people are nasty. Yes, chemicals kill a bunch but what if they guards at the pool are lax. Do you check the reading to make sure that the PH and the chlorine levels were ideal...probably not.
My concern would never be the breast milk in the water, that is just silly but all the things!
And @Nicb13, I would rather swim in BM than blood or pee too, but it doesn't mean I want or should have to swim in it.
When I BFed my son in the pool, I don't even think I had gone underwater or that the top of my suit and my breasts were even wet...but my son, who had been splashing in the water and having a grand time was covered head to toe in water, and his face was all wet.
Swallowing pool water/chlorine seems to be more an argument for keeping baby away from a pool than for not nursing in the pool. Just my $0.02.