June Bugs Check-In for June 24th!

pblge · June 2014

Welcome to the June Bugs Check-in!
Check-ins will be every Tuesday & Friday. Your check-in leaders are pblge (Tuesday) and dreambig1021 (Friday). This is a check-in for those who are doing IVF/IVM or FET with an ER/ET scheduled for June. If you are interested in joining, please fill us in on your cycle below (IVF/FET cycle #, where you are in the process, relevant dates, etc). Be sure to update us along the way!
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QOTD: What's your secret talent that might even surprise some of your friends? E.g., are you a ninja?

BFPS:
BeckyP005 - DE FET #1
Hopefulsprout - FET #2

Mozarella13 - IVF #2 with ICSI - Fingers crossed!!

Pjpahel - IVF #4, Microdose Lupron Protocol (+HPT!)
Runawaylaurel - IVF #1

BFNS:

anitaflora - IVF #2, antagonist w/ ICSI (((hugs)))

Katib77 - IVF #2, Antagonist protocol w/ HGH and NK cell intralipids (((hugs)))

Pblge - IVF #2.1, Antagonist Protocol

Scooteriste - IVF #3

June Angels:

In the 2WW- Congratulations on being PUPO!!!
BornThisWay- IVF #2

Carol77B - IVF #3, EP/Antagonist protocol w/ PICSI
Ikrystal - FET #1

Justone14- IVF #3

Margritli- FET #3

Shelbeans82 - FET #1 from IVF #2
Sigh202- IVF #3
Vpine- FET #1

FET:
clguerra88 - FET #1 from IVF #1
Dreambig1021 - FET #1
gnl42 - FET #1
geordie314 - FET #4 from IVF #1
Mrs.Willie - FET #1

Cycles completed:
gsancho - IVF #1 Take Two (freeze all)

ExoticAntibiotic - IVF #2 (freeze all) - Is this correct?

HollowBerry - IVF #2 (freeze all FET in Sept)

Hoping4LO - IVF #1 none fertilized - (((hugs)))

PrivateOne - IVF #3 (retrieval only)
Sweetpotato123 - IVF #1 ((hugs)) (OHSS/freeze all)

Between ER / ET:
No one? Is that right?

Stimming:
Chucktgirl – IVF #5.2

KT416 - IVF # 1 w/ ICSI
MJ14323 - IVF #3

Tabbytown - IVF #3

Prepping/BCP/Priming:
No one?

Cancelled / Delayed:

airidh80 - ((hugs))
babycakestx - IVF #1 ((hugs))
ChristieH917 - IVF #1 - (((hugs)))

Intheplanningstage - ((hugs))
Kinderteach78 – IVF #1 - Summer Sparklers
Lillovebug79 - IVF # 1 - Summer Sparklers
O2girl - ((hugs))
Sha259 - IVF #1 - Summer Sparklers - is this right?
Ttc23 - IVF #4, Antagonist Protocol w/ NK cells ((hugs))

pblge · June 2014

Hope I got everyone updated correctly. I'm playing phone tag with my RE so I don't even know what my update is yet!

ETA: Argh. Why aren't my tags working???

scooteriste · June 2014

Hi June Bugs. Hope all of our BFPs are doing well and ((hugs)) to those who need them.

I'm just waiting on AF. Have to schedule a follow up appointment with the RE but I've been dragging my feet a bit. At this point she just sounds like Charlie Brown's mother (womp wompwompwomp womp womp). I need to go there to get my records from last cycle anyway, so we will plan to do both at once. I've got a nurse call with a new RE next week and our appt with him is mid July, but DH is traveling and can't go. Do you guys think it's ok if I go to the consult by myself? (I usually do most of the talking anyway!)

QOTD: I have ninja-like talent in plumbing. I can fix faucets, install toilets and shower fixtures. Not a useful party trick but I'm practical!

Carol77B · June 2014

I broke down and took a FR/ER HPT this morning (10dp3dt) and it was negative. I had just started letting myself hope and believe it would work this time and had convinced myself that the mild cramping and headaches were positive signs. I know I'm not entirely out of the game, yet, but AF would be due this Friday (if not all messed up from the progesterone and estrogen meds) and beta is Monday.

Going to call and try and schedule the WTF (they may not want to schedule it since I'm doing that before negative beta), since it can take several weeks to get in and I want to see if it is possible to cycle again in August. Originally I wanted to take more time off, but right now I'm feeling like I want to jump back in, if possible, and there are some timing issues I'm trying to work with.

Oh, and I feel like an idiot, because we didn't do the shared risk program and three IVFs was the break-even point, so any future IVFs (up to the six covered under that program) are going to hurt more financially. And the study that my RE thought we could get into stopped accepting new patients.

And the second worst thing about all this is that I'm fat for the summer with nothing to show for it. None of my cute summer dresses fit and I feel awful in a swimsuit.

Sorry for the novella, I don't have anyone else to share this with. My husband wants to believe it is just too soon to test and keeps saying "it has to work" which is not helpful.

Carol77B · June 2014

Oh, forgot the QOTD: I make costumes and I'm pretty good at it! I wear them at conventions (book, Comic-Con, Dragon-Con, etc.) Unfortunately, pretty much none of them fit right now either, and that sucks because I'm going to San Diego Comic-Con in a month.

scooteriste · June 2014

@Carol77B‌ I have my FX for you that it's just too early and you've got a late implanter. Big hugs for you today but I'll keep the faith for you. I know what you mean about wanting a break but also wanting to push ahead. I am flip-flopping constantly but a consult in July is keeping me grounded a bit. Will you stick with the same RE if this cycle doesn't work?

Justone13 · June 2014

Hey there ladies!! @scooteriste‌ I am a self taught plumber too and help out with friends and family when they have issues. Hope they can give you some answers on why this happened again. And yes I think it's fine to go on your own because I'm sure you know more about it than your DH anyways.
@Carol77B‌ I'm so sorry. I hate this crap. None of it's fair or even makes sense. I would go ahead and schedule an appt with the re now so you don't have to wait that long. None of my clothes fit either and we head to the beach on Thursday I'm still so bloated.

I'm officially PUPO although my hopes are crap for this cycle. We transferred two on a 3dt yesterday one was a 6 cell showing abnormalities and one a 4 cell. I burst into tears in the transfer room. Then we found out that the rest of my hubs sperm was used for this last shitty cycle so when we want to cycle again he has to have surgery again which is a other 3 grand and more time off of work for both of us. So the earliest we can start again is August or September. I'm tired of being pumped full of meds and hoping for the best. I've lost faith in my Re. I feel like a science experiment. We are oop so we did the shared risk at shady grove so I have no clue where to even go from here. I'm so bloated and just down in the dumps. Going through the motions but knowing that I doubt it will work.
QOTD: I can grow pretty much anything. Flowers and veggies. I guess I don't come off as a girl that digs in the dirt? Lol

vpine · June 2014

FET #1: Here I am - the stubborn one that refuses to test - I'm 11dp5dt, Beta on Friday at 10:30am, I had lots of AF type cramps the last few days, night sweats last night (which happened during my IUIs and last IVF so I know it's hormone related) but today the AF type cramps have subsided. Everytime I go urinate, I hold my breathe and feel relieved no blood yet. During my IUIs and IVF #1, I started AF around yesterday-today time frame so I'm crossing fingers. I have sore boobs which also could be AF or hormone related. Will of course keep you all updated.

Good luck to everyone who is testing early

ikrystal · June 2014

pblge Thanks for posting the check in! I hope you get a hold of your RE soon.

I took a stupid HPT yesterday and got a BFN. But I'm only 5dp5dt so I'm hoping it is just too early.

QOTD: What's your secret talent that might even surprise some of your friends? E.g., are you a ninja? I can't really think of anything.... isn't that sad? lol

gnl42 · June 2014

My lining was thinner this morning compared to last week. WTF. Starting vaginal viagra tomorrow for 1-2 weeks, so I'm clearly delayed AGAIN. If I don't respond to the viagra, then we do a hysteroscopy to make sure I don't have adhesions and I will likely throw myself in front of a bus at that point.

I'm sorry that I can't offer more support today. I really do feel for all of you going through tough times. This crap is so hard. I just feel like not one single step of this process goes as planned for me. I'm so tired of being told to be patient.

Carol77B · June 2014

@justone13 thanks you. I'm hopeful for you, though I know how hard it is when you feel nothing is working out like it should for ideal results.

@vpine FX for your beta on Friday!!!

@ikrystal I hope it was too early for you to test.

scooteriste I'm torn about getting a second opinion. I love my OB/GYN and he highly recommended my RE (sent his second wife and best friend's daughter to him). Their stats are great and he ran extensive testing after IVF #2 and has changed things up enough and that I'm leaning to it being bad luck (though I feel like I shouldn't count my second IVF, since it just seemed like one thing went wrong after the other- starting with low AFC and then I was accidently a day late starting stimming while on the micro-dose Lupron, and I was under a huge amount of stress at the time, etc.).

pblge 's improved response at her new fancypants RE in NYC, so I guess it isn't out of the question.

Also, another plus for sticking is that my insurance is currently covering most of cost of diagnostics and SGF is charging me the lower insurance rate, even though I have to pay 100%, which has saved me $4,000 off each individual IVF cycle. I don't know that I would get that at a new place, since my insurance has already flip-flopped on my coverage, and I'm worried if I have to get a new authorization number, they will quit covering even the diagnostics.

Since originally this was supposed to be a MFI issue, since my DH's vasovasectomy was only partially successful, I'm making my DH go back to his urologist to see if there is anything else he can do at his end to improve quality/quantity. We have had lower than expected fertilization rates 2/3 times and our embryos seem to do good until day three and then start having problems (and nothing ever makes it to freeze), so I want to explore that more. I did some Googling last night and he has an treated varicocele and I'm wondering if that could be contributing to his issues. Unfortunately, I've struggled to get him to do even basic stuff like switch to looser fitting underwear and take supplements because he keeps thinking the ICSI/PICSI will solve any issues with poor quality/quantity, but I think I've convinced him it is worth him talking to his doctor after (what looks like) three failures.

Just scheduled the WTF for 7/15, which is a lot sooner than I thought and would put me on track to be able to cycle again in August (if we max out my no interest credit card).

Argh! Sorry for the even longer novella!

vpine · June 2014

@ikrystal - step away from the HPTs - I say test again if you can't resist around 9dp5dt

dreambig1021 · June 2014

There is so much going on and I'm so very sorry for the BFN's and cancelled / delayed ladies.

Congrats to our BFP's!!

AFM- Good news is I found a job! So excited about it. Other than that transfer scheduled for Thursday and they thawed 2 sets of embryos since we are transferring two and they freeze in pairs. 1 arrested other 3 I had a 10 cell, 8 cell and 6 cell I'll get more info today to see if they are still growing.

QOTD: I feel lame cause I cant think of one! Now that will be all I think about LOL

ExoticAntibiotic · June 2014

@pblge‌ I'm sorry about the BFN. Best of luck for your FET, lady!
@scooteriste‌ I think it's fine to go to a consult appointment alone! My husband avoids appointments when he can, so I usually go alone.
@Carol77B‌ so sorry for the BFN. I hope it's too soon!! I'm in the DC metro area, too, and I can't imagine going to any of these other clinics. My other consultation (Dominion) was such a disaster, and every other clinic has worse stats.
@Justone13 It's so hard to feel disillusioned with your RE.

Can you go elsewhere? I hope this is it for you and you don't need to think about other opinions!
@vpine My fingers are crossed for you. Beta or bust is admirable!
@ikrystal I hope it's just way too early for you. Good luck.
@gnl42 that is so frustrating! I hope the Viagra gets you there ASAP.

I am doing a freeze all, @pblge! All 10 of our embryos are still going strong as of this morning. They'll be biopsied for PGS on days 5 and 6, so I will not hear anything until Friday. Ugh! I'm a nervous wreck all ready! Not sure how I am going to get through the wait for our results.

Since I really need to lose weight, I'm delaying my next FET until September to hopefully lose 20lbs. If we have normal embryos, anyway...

My hidden talent is writing. I absolutely hate it, but I can bang out large pieces of writing in short amounts of time. Research papers are my favorite things to see on a syllabus.

Sigh202 · June 2014

Hugs to those who need them. I don't have any secret talents that I know of, although it throws off everyone when I start speaking in my first language. I'm trying to hold on to hope but having a hard time. Today I'm 11dp3dt and it has been a wild ride. I was cramping and bleeding at 5dpt, 6dpt, and 7dpt. It stopped for a few days but started back up again today. I can explain away the early bleeding as implantation but now not so much.

Justone13 · June 2014

@ExoticAntibiotic‌ I'm at sgf in Annapolis. So I feel the same way. Where do you go from here? So frustrated. @Carol77B‌ sent you a pm.

KT416 · June 2014

I'm really sorry for those who have had a rough few days, hugs to everyone that needs them.

I am on day 10 of stims. I went in for an u/s today, and I had about 10-12 follicles above 10, the majority on the left side. I have to go in tomorrow for another u/s tomorrow... so hopefully I am close!

QOTD: I only have one hidden talent and I was told in college never to speak of it, haha. So I have nothing.

pblge · June 2014

@scooteriste - the only worry I'd have about meeting with a new RE without OH is if I needed to make decisions right there on the spot. Do you think he could call into the meeting? You could put him on speaker so he could participate. And plumbing is an AWESOME talent. We came back from vacation during one of the polar vortexes this winter to a broken pipe. I immediately saw thousands of dollars bursting from the bank account, but OH fixed it for $75. My hero!

@Carol77b - ((hugs)) I hope it's too early. I'm a HUGE fan of second opinions right now, even if I'm not yet pregnant. Feel free to PM me if you want info, although it sounds like you have an insurance conundrum. You might call and ask if they provide coverage for new patient consults anyway--mine covers one per year. I'm fat for swimsuit season, too, but now I can run today-whoohoo!!!

@ExoticAntibiotic - Those who are between cycles now could consider joining our FU IF fitness check-in! It's really awesome, and a very supportive group. I was soooooo happy I joined up before this last IVF.

@ikrystal - Good luck! I think that IS early from what I read.

@gnl42 - (((hugs))) Your uterus needs to GET IN LINE!!! Are you trying all the food stuff that might help? I've been reading a little in prep for my first FET, and there are whole lists out there....

@dreambig1021 - YAY for the new job!!! Congrats!

@KT416 - Very intriguing. My mind went straight to rolling joints or similar, but maybe that was only my college experience. ;-)

@Sigh202 - ((hugs)) Good luck with beta!

I'm just a girl waiting for a boy to call. Sigh.

pblge · June 2014

@Hoping4LO said:

QOTW - I can hop on a pogo stick all day!

We have a winner!!!

pblge · June 2014

Ooops - @Hoping4LO , if your doc is offering you a free ER you should DO THAT. Ask how much time you can wait to regain your sanity, and ask for all the info he has about egg quality. ((hugs))

pjpahel · June 2014

Hello ladies...

I have my fingers crossed for everyone still in limbo! And hugs for those who need them.

AFM, I had that +HPT, but as per usual almost instantly started to bleed...and that +HPT is almost not existent now. Appears another CP.

I suspect I'll have a follow up with my RE and see if there is further testing we can do since I have 2 frozen for an FET, and then we are done.

Pamela

chucktgirl · June 2014

@Carol77B Good luck on Monday. That's a rough negative. I also totally feel you on the fat issue. It's like, I put myself through all of this and now I'm super fluffy with no PG.

@vpine, I've got FX for you - there's no way I could wait!
@dreambig1021 Congrats on the job! That has to be a major stress relief!
Congrats to the other gals on PUPOs, and hugs to those who need them (I want to send more than hugs, like, punches to the faces of people they hate, or something.)

AFM, I triggered last night, vagiscan this morning showed 6 in my left, 3 in my right, with the largest at a fatty 25! ER is tomorrow. I am dreading it and can't wait for it to be over. I'm not very hopeful, but I wish I was. I don't know if that will make the letdown easier or not. Maybe nothing makes it easier.

QOTD: What's your secret talent that might even surprise some of your friends? E.g., are you a ninja?
I am NOT a ninja. I also have no fun special talent. I must work on that.

Carol77B · June 2014

pjpahel I'm so, so sorry.

Carol77B · June 2014

So along the lines of "if I don't laugh about this I'll cry," I miscounted the number of Endometrin tabs and applicators I put in my purse and just had to "manually" insert the tab. It was kind of a mess. And since I started having not insignificant cramping earlier today, the process was soooo much fun! At least no sign of AF, so, like an idiot, I am hanging on to the tiniest bit of hope, still.

BornThisWay · June 2014

I am so bummed for everyone that is having a rough check in day. IF has damaged so many parts of my life/body/psyche/marriage and I am so ready for this chapter (or novel) to be behind me!

***HPT mentioned***

I got a BFP yesterday at 5dp5dt, it was light but obviously there. Slightly darker today, feeling fullness and cramping in my uterus and very full/mildly sore boobs. I am not jumping up and down, am not really even allowing the BFP to matter yet after having these symptoms and 2 days of +'s last year with an FET. Would be devastating to have that happen again. Beta on Saturday!

Ninja skill: I make a mean Thanksgiving dinner, all homemade, for 20+ people and usually on NO sleep (I work night shift)!

Justone13 · June 2014

@pjpahel‌ thinking of you!

Sigh202 · June 2014

@BornThisWay‌ your beta is only 9 days after transfer?

pblge · June 2014

@pjpahel - (((hugs)))

@BornThisWay - Whoohoo! FX for a great beta!

@tabbytown - ((hugs)) Hope the stims end soon!

@Carol77 - The nurse actually recommended I NOT use the applicators because they can irritate. I never tried it that way, though.

@Chucktgirl - Good luck tomorrow! Come back and tell us how it went!

Finally heard from my doc! He said he think I'm just in the unlucky 35% for whom the perfect blast doesn't take, although he did recommend transferring two for next round. No other testing or treatment at this time, although might make changes if the next cycle is also a BFN. I have to talk to the IVF coordinator about scheduling, but I'm hoping I can start right away. He also said I can stop taking Metformin, which is SUPER exciting, even if I've finally adjusted to it now. Hmmm...maybe I'll ask if coming off of it is as hard as going on it.

scooteriste · June 2014

Good luck tomorrow @chucktgirl‌! Big hugs @pjpahel‌. Congrats on the new job @dreambig1021‌! Congrats @BornThisWay‌ FX for a great beta!

Thanks everyone for your advice about the consult. DH likes to be involved and informed. Our plan is to make a list of questions together and I will write down the answers and discuss with him after the meeting. We are both looking for a new protocol and to be treated less like this is a "numbers game" vs the fact that we are patients with legitimate medical concerns. I can totally relate to your concerns @Carol77B‌, I have a lot of the same worries. For me leaving feels like Stockholm syndrome or something!

pblge · June 2014

Why can't I remember my own QOTD?? I worked briefly as a seamstress in college, so my secret talent is that I'm actually really good at sewing. I made wedding dresses for my former BFF and now SIL. My sewing machine cost more than my computer. I almost never sew a thing for myself, so this is on the down low.

But I really wish I were a ninja.

BornThisWay · June 2014

@Sigh202‌ the official Beta for me is 10 days after transfer. They draw the 1st at 8 days but put the sample on ice and run them both the day of the second beta and tell you all at once if it was positive and if it's doubling. It's an intense phone call.

Mozzarella13 · June 2014

((Hugs)) @pjpahel‌ I'm so sorry buddy

shelbeans82 · June 2014

Big ((hugs)) to those who need them. Fx for ladies in the 2ww, still awaiting their FET and still stimming! Congrats to the BFPs!

I am smack in the middle of the 2ww, beta is on Monday 6/30. We have a bunch of family events Thursday, Friday, Saturday so I will probably wait to test until Saturday/Sunday so if its negative I can have some peace and not be expected to go out and be around people.

QOTD: I have special skills in recognizing faces. Once I see you I won't forget you. I see people all the time and think, I know you from somewhere! and it drives me a little batty. I probably saw them in the grocery store once or something.

Margritli · June 2014

It seems like there has been a lot of sad developments in the past few days in this group, which makes me really sad. I am keeping FX for all those in the TWW and send big hugs out to those who need them.

I'm in the TWW and driving myself crazy imagining pregnancy symptoms, which are utterly impossible at this point and if anything, probably just a side effect of the progesterone suppositories. But it wouldn't really be the TWW without that, would it?

mrs.willie · June 2014

@scooteriste yes, I had to go to my WTF consult before IVF without DH and it was perfectly fine. Filled him in later.

@Carol77B @ Justone13 @Sigh202 @ikrystal @BornThisWay @shelbeans82 @Mozarella13 FX for you all!

@dreambig1021 Good luck on your transfer tomorrow and congrats on the new job!

@vpine Good luck on your beta! I couldn't hold out that long. Good for you!

@chucktgirl good luck at ER!

FX for everybody else and hugs to those who need them!

My transfer is scheduled for tomorrow a.m. I had one last u/s yesterday that showed there was still a little fluid in my uterus so my RE went ahead and drained it. He said it was a small amount, but made him feel better. Great, I feel better too. I had that happen during stims before ER too. Why the heck is that happening? Never happened before my partial salpingectomy. Ugh!!

QOTD: I guess maybe cooking?

Mozzarella13 · June 2014

*******BFP warning***************

so my beta went from 11 to 20.4! I'm still bleeding though a lot less than I was, and RE is going to add PIO since my progesterone is low and the endometrin didn't seem to stop the bleeding. I'm having another beta Friday, and I'm going to try to be cautiously optimistic for the time being. For right now, I'm pregnant...and even if this doesn't stick, I know it's possible and those damn pee sticks aren't broken!!

Justone13 · June 2014

@Mozzarella13‌ I'm soooo hoping everything turns out ok!! Thinking of you!

ChristieH917 · June 2014

@Mozzarella13 Whoo hoo!! I am so happy that it went up. I wish you the best of luck!! FX!!!

shelbeans82 · June 2014

@mozzarella13 Fx this is it!!

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