April 2014 Moms

Lurker who needs to vent about in laws.

kikijoneskikijones member
edited June 2014 in April 2014 Moms
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If the gif works it sums up my feelings.

So my in laws never dealt with a breast fed baby before ours. And they act like it's the weirdest fucking thing in the world. Gahhhh. So MIL comes over so I can run to the store for 30 minutes to get Epsom salt for my milk blister and a Father's Day card and I come back and she's giving him a bottle. I asked if he was crying or screaming out of hunger and she looks at me all bewildered and says no. THEN WHY ARE YOU FUCKING FEEDING HIM THEN. I WAS GONE 30 MINUTES. FUCK. It pisses me off so much. They literally cannot acknowledge that I breastfeed. Every time they ask about his eating it's always "when did he have his bottle. He just loves bottles. I bet he wants a bottle. I think he could hold a bottle by himself now because he's so big." (He's 7 weeks. I'm pretty sure that's fucking impossible.) The thing that really bothers me is they have no respect for how breastfeeding works despite my husband explaining it to my MIL. (I can't talk about this with her because these people are so uptight that conversations center on the family, the kids, or the weather. I've never had a real conversation with either of them in the sixteen years I've known them.) I love them and they are wonderful grandparents but it's so hard for me to deal with their inability to deal with breastfeeding. I swear there must be something hormonal that makes me super protect-full of my need to nurse. I know it's irrational to be so angry about it but geez. So tonight I'm going to print a bunch of literature explaining how it works and no he does not have diarrhea.

Oh and one more cause I'm putting it all out in hopes it makes me feel better. I hate it when she says stupid fucking things that basically accuse me of harming my baby. First it was the swing. "I read that those are dangerous and they shake the baby's brain and give them brain damage". No they don't. If they did, they wouldn't sell them. Then it was the bouncers vibrating feature. Same danger. No it's not too strong. Then it was the sound sleep machine and "I heard those make babies go deaf". No they don't !!! Today when I get home from the store "do you still swaddle". Yes. "Are you sure you should. Doesn't it squeeze his insides and compress his lungs?" WTF. No. I would never squeeze my baby so tight with a swaddle. Arghhhh!!!

Okay. If you read all that thank you. And please feel free to add your complaints. I would love to commiserate.
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Re: Lurker who needs to vent about in laws.

  • smushismushi member
    :( I'm so sorry.  There's nothing shittier in the world than having people be so blatantly ignorant and passive aggressive towards your parenting choices..

    My inlaws came up a few weekends ago, and I had to pee and my MIL and husband were busy, so I got up and put LO in his swing.  My FIL (who is laid out on the sofa and as lazy as an effing slug) says, when LO starts to fuss at no longer being held, "Oh, you don't like the "Lazy Mommy" do you?"  Yeah, I wanted to punch him.  He referred to the swing as the Lazy Mommy for the rest of the weekend.  Jerk.
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  • Sorry for the crappy inlaw situation. I left my babe with my MIL for two hours with breastmilk in the freezer and came home to him getting water in a bottle. She didn't want to "waste" my breastmilk and he seemed fussy...WTF!??
  • MIL was the same way about BFing and still is. She doesn't get it, she never will. No one in her family has ever BFed because breast are for husbands. And they believe the same about vaginas, that's why they've all had c/s's. So when I had my first And she became an ECS MIL said "see I told you babies weren't meant to come out that way". I find the easiest way is to just not deal with my 85yo MIL, and she can't watch my kids anymore either.
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    My mil asked about shots. I said she would get them at 2 months. She then told me about someone she knows daughter got autism from shots and is a teenager now and doesn't talk. Wow, thanks so much for telling me that shitty story a few weeks before my baby is about to get shots. Idiot.
  • Your story makes me happy my ILs live so far away. When I do see them they are full of worthless opinions like that. They are just really old school, and really have no idea about BFing or any baby gear invented in the past 40 years. Fortunately since we see them infrequently I can mostly bite my tongue.

    The only time I didn't was when FIL insisted on just randomly trying to shove food in DS's mouth when he was having GI issues and we were closely watching what he ate. And FIL got all bent out of shape because I "wouldn't let him feed his grandson". Why would you just randomly shove food in someone's mouth as you're walking by anyway? Weirdo...

    But since they don't live near us, what they like to do to annoy me is send huge gifts that we didn't ask for and can't use or return. Yesterday a huge work bench for DH and a huge toy storage shelving unit showed up at the house. Both are totally random things we did not ask for, have no space for, and don't need. And this is the second work bench they have given DH. He never set the other one up either.

     

  • My mil is the same. Nobody in her family has BF and she doesn't get it.
    She will, however, respect my wishes and will follow any directions I give her to the letter. My biggest annoyance is when I'd leave DD with her for a short (like an hr) outing, after just feeding dd, to her giving dd a bottle from my stash. WTF! I told you she just ate! Why are people so damn obsessed with giving BF babies bottles?!?

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  • Wow all these stories make me somewhat happy that my MIL is completely disinterested in her 2 grand kids. She lives 5 mins away and has seen 9 week old DS twice and held him once. He was hospitalized at 5 weeks old and the bitch didn't even bother to visit. I guess I shouldn't complain. To sum it up, ILs suck. But to add to the "old school beliefs", my mom thinks swaddling is like this inhumane thing done to babies. She also feels bad that I strap him in to the car seat and said he probably doesn't like being pinned down. God only knows how she traveled with me in a car!
  • Thank you ladies so much for commiserating with me. Starfish your MIL sounds like my mother. Sadly my mother is just a person to me now like a distant relative. But those thoughts will be saved for therapy someday.

    I will try to lurk less now. I just never posted when I was working cause yeah, life. But now I have more time cause I nurse like 12 hours a day lol.
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  • Early on when I was feeding on demand (still do but it's not as long) mil would say " he doesn't need to eat again." Yea he really does.

    And what drove me out of my mind is when I would as DH to do something for the baby (during which mil happened to be at our house) and I would come back to find mil doing it for him. I cannot stand how she babies her sons even though they are in their 30s so much so that they expect her (& me now) to do things for them. Hell no!!!!!

    And mil keeps track of how often my mom gets to hold DS compared to how often she does....
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    I come back and she's giving him a bottle. I asked if he was crying or screaming out of hunger and she looks at me all bewildered and says no. THEN WHY ARE YOU FUCKING FEEDING HIM THEN. I WAS GONE 30 MINUTES. FUCK. It pisses me off so much. 

    Okay, first i love the gif, it seriously made me LOL.  And im having the same problem with you -- except not with breastfeeding but with just my MIL liking to feed my DD all the time when its not necessary.  Last Saturday when we were over there and she tried to feed her once an hour, and I asked if she was crying or something and she was like "no its just time for another feed".  So I pretended I didnt have anymore formula to feed her and said she'd just have to wait till we got home (however I still had plenty of formula in the diaper bag).  Next thing I know, DH is going to the diaper bag and grabbed a drop-in to put in a bottle and I asked him what he was doing and he said "oh my mom is going to feed her water"... WTF?!?!  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!  How dare you try to give me baby something other than what she gets fed!  Im livid.  Im still livid.  My SIL is DD nanny and im worried about the baby being at their house (SIL still lives with MIL) and MIL over-feeding her.....  ::sigh::...
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  • MIL was the same way about BFing and still is. She doesn't get it, she never will. No one in her family has ever BFed because breast are for husbands. And they believe the same about vaginas, that's why they've all had c/s's. So when I had my first And she became an ECS MIL said "see I told you babies weren't meant to come out that way". I find the easiest way is to just not deal with my 85yo MIL, and she can't watch my kids anymore either.

    Errrmagawd. There are soooooooo many things wrong with....well....ALL of that! Yes, boobs are specifically for babies, men like them biologically BECAUSE of that. And vaginas.....also specifically for babies.....wait, should I stop eating because my mouth should only be used for bj's? Just. Wow.
  • allyandmike24allyandmike24 member
    edited June 2014
    Hahh that gif is perfect! 

    So, I don't have any real constructive advice to add, just wanted to say how frustrating that sounds. I have been very firm in nipping ANY undercutting of my parenting by MIL in the bud. As soon as she disagrees or questions something, I firmly but kindly remind her that she had a chance to raise her children as she saw fit and she needs to give me the same opportunity to raise mine. 

    Luckily this has only happened a few times and I shut it down pretty quickly. Good luck with your MIL! 

    ETA: I have had to remind MIL that there is a difference between offering advice and criticism. I think sometimes they think that what they are saying/doing is helpful advice, but it is really criticism/undercutting your parenting choices. 
  • Since I had the baby, I've become a lot more vocal with my MIL. Before I used to bite my tongue, now I'm a mom and what I say goes, don't like it. Tough shit! That's my daughter and if you want to stay in this house you will live by my rules.

    If it's not obvious yet, my MIL and I don't see eye to eye. I think it all went pear shaped around the time she told me I should lose weight so I would be pretty and could wear pretty dresses. Grrrrr
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  • etr152517etr152517 member
    edited June 2014
    Oh in laws... I'm so sorry! My MIL is the oldest of 12, had 4 kids and now has 4 grand kids so clearly she's a pro and no one else knows anything. She constantly referred to DS as her baby which I had to put an end to. He's my baby, not hers.
    We were going to visit them 2 wknds ago and before we went she called DH and he was talking to her on speaker. She said she wanted us to go to church with them. He said it depends on how the night is and how DS is in the am. She then said if we don't go, she'll just take him. I started to freak the fuck out but my husband calmly explained to her that he can't be away from me for more than 2 hrs (not true, he can go longer but she didn't need to know that) because I breast feed. She then said we will just have to feed him before she goes then she'll take him. I. Was. Floored. You can't just tell someone you're taking their baby!!!! My mom and I are extremely close and she would never think of saying something like that to me. We didn't end up going and she didn't take him alone :)
  • @kikijones that's awful and she sucks! I also appreciate your use of the word fuck though- hope it felt good to get that all out!

    @RedDawnsRevenge‌ I'm speechless on the vag stuff. Speechless.
  • I am finding that both my mother and MIL have some weird thoughts/ ideas about how I should be doing things. I just say that I'm going to do it my way and that's that. Both my dad and FIL on the other hand have been 100% supportive of what I'm doing and how we're doing things. I've had them both speak up on separate occasions to tell their wives to let me do my thing. 
    I love my mom to pieces but she's really got to stop telling me that my daughter is in pain every time she fusses.... or that what I'm eating it hurting her. I just roll my eyes and take another bite. My mom got her Phd at the university of Google and knows everything there is to know about babies. ;)
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  • I had a visit off mil FIL sil on the weekend, arrrgghhhh! FIL was helping oh with some odd jobs luckily as he always insists on waking LO as soon as he sees him ( when we spend all day trying to settle him !) sil wanted to feed LO, so I told her he has 3oz burps then the last oz (FF) oh no... She decides to put the bottle in out in out then pass to mil to wind, who also decides the bottle goes in out in out, argh your giving him wind like that! Then sil nags me to leave LO with the Inlaws because they will like it?! Umm they can't even feed him properly! No chance, sorry it's long but arrrgghhh that gif sums me up after that visit !
  • hbell12 said:

    This is why my mil will never be left alone with my baby. Ever.

    Side note: I think people are obsessed with giving babies bottles because they don't know how/have the patience to soothe a baby. They just assume every cry means they're hungry even if they aren't.

    I've seen the opposite. My mom has suggested several times (nicely. She's not a jerk about it, thankfully) that Josie crying doesn't always mean she's hungry. Yeah, for my kid, 95% of the time it does. I've got a pretty darn contented baby. Gas aside, if she doesn't need something she doesn't cry. And since she's BF she metabolizes food quickly and wants to nurse often. But maybe that's just my kid.

    I think the bottle thing - in women at least - stems from a desire to feed the baby, plain and simple. I feel like there's an instinctual reason I'm so protective of breastfeeding, and my reluctance to face other people besides DH and me feed her makes me think there's something more to it than just providing sustenance. The first thing my mom said to Josie (that I remember. I was pretty tired) right after she was born was "I can't wait to give you a bottle!" I thought it was bizarre, especially since she new I wanted to BF and supported it. People like to feed babies, period. It's a time where the baby is kind of theirs; no one's gonna try and take the baby while it's being fed, no one's gonna ask to hold her, she's not jonna cry and have to be taken away. It's protected time, and I think a lot of grandmas and grandmother-in-laws want that.

    And some are just plain weird about breastfeeding.

    I, too, loved your gif. Loved that cartoon! I know just the one it's from.
    While I was still breastfeeding the whole "maybe the baby isn't hungry" thing made me so mad but my inlaws were terrible about it. Within a few days of being born my son had different "cries" and at least to my ears his hunger cry is quite distinct from his uncomfortable cry, tired cry, pain cry, frustration cry, etc. I finally told my husband he needed to have a talk with his family about handing over the baby when I say to or I was going to cut a bitch.

    Amusingly now that DS is older and I'm bottle feeding so anyone could do it, any time he cries or fusses everyone is like "oh no he's hungry". Meanwhile I'm like uh no he just ate, he's crying because he's tired and you won't get out of his face so he can relax. I get that I am probably more attuned to him than anyone but it drives me batty.

  • Why do in laws have to be so awful?! Unfortunately my in laws live close to us- wish they lived in Australia! MIL text my hubby and said we needed to come over more because we go to my parents too much. First of all- I go to my moms almost everyday to help with my sanity while the hubby is at work- WE don't go to my parents very often (once a week maybe) she's just pissed cause I post pics on FB of LO and my mom/dad/sister/gparents- whoever I happen to see that day or who comes to see me! Father's Day my FIL proceeds to tell me that I need to get with my MIL on her days off and invite her over so she can see her more! Ummm I'm sorry but you can always call anytime you want to see her and see if I am available- I don't have that kind of relationship with my MIL so I just don't feel comfortable. They never want to come to our house- always want us to come to them in the evenings- I'm sorry but it's hard to load up a 7 week old who's pissy (leap 2) and lug her to your house only to have her scream the whole time and she doesn't want them to hold her anyway- she just wants mommy no one else! They could make the effort sometime and come to see her! Hubby has told them they can come anytime but the won't! End rant!

     

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  • Hey a few weeks ago when LO was about 2-3 weeks old we had FIL on the phone actually shouting because we wernt going down there house but staying in waiting for a visit of my sister (her first time to see LO as she was ill) my inlaw rants are endless !
  • Early on when I was feeding on demand (still do but it's not as long) mil would say " he doesn't need to eat again." Yea he really does.

    And what drove me out of my mind is when I would as DH to do something for the baby (during which mil happened to be at our house) and I would come back to find mil doing it for him. I cannot stand how she babies her sons even though they are in their 30s so much so that they expect her (& me now) to do things for them. Hell no!!!!!

    And mil keeps track of how often my mom gets to hold DS compared to how often she does....

    Hold up, do we have the same MIL?!?!

    When DS needs to eat (AGAIN) because of on demand, she won't let me. It's nuts.

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  • My husband's grandma is pissed we won't drive to see her despite the fact that she absolutely can drive. It's two hours one way, thanks but no thanks. I know it's partially our fault because we used to always be the ones to visit but when I got pregnant we made it clear we would be doing what is best for our son, and that means not stuffing him in the car for hours to have a one hour lunch.
  • My DH keeps asking when we're going to go visit his parents. They can't be bothered to come see us but I am supposed to pack up two kids and all of of their crap and make a 7-hr drive to see them? And they have no space for us anyway and a completely non-child-friendly house. Breakable crap everywhere, no toys, furniture crammed into every open square inch so there is nowhere to move. Oh and their house has one bathroom.

    Not in a huge rush to do that thanks!

     

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